as to who they're going to be endorsing, and one of the people with a bad temper is governor of hiram johnson of california. and johnson is running for the senate in california. he has a primary and he's a very ornery guy. hughes because of the limitation of travel in the days has to get out to the coast early and back to the east coast where all of the votes are later towards the end where it's crucial. so he swings through california. he does this before the primary. johnson is the governor, he's not the candidate. the california republican party is so split and they cannot make any decisions on who will escort who, who will chair the meeting. it is -- it is worse than palestinians and israelis. the feelings are so bad, and finally what happens is there's an incident in long beach, california, where hughes, who has still not met johnson, goes in to rest at the hotel there, doesn't know that johnson is there. johnson know that is hughes is the there. they leave the hotel, they never meet. and it is blamed that hughes has alien ated johnson in this. but really johnson could have made the move

a of people blame hiram johnson. when johnson goes back to california, they endorse him but then they split up, they split up, and they hold separate meeting, we'll be for hughes, we'll be for wilson, he couldn't have swung all of the progressives if he wanted to but might have swung 1600. >> we mentioned 12 states wilson won 9 of the 12. that says about charles evans hughes he wasn't so much of a political tactician as he was acting on convict? >> well i think so. i think he was much more of a principled person and a principled lawyer than a politician in certain respects. so i think part of as i mentioned before part of the reason that the -- some of the women didn't vote for him because of his -- the perception that he would bring america to war whereas wilson promised or they felt that wilson pledged to remain at peace. but really, also i think one of the things that the hiram johnson incident outlines and shows about hughes' character is that he wasn't really very interested in curing favor with other poll signi

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jason johnson is chief political correspondent for politic 365. and professor of political science at hiramrepublican strategist ron bonjean. i can't wait for this conversation. i think we remember vice presidents for the offbeat things we do. dan quayle misspelling potato. and joe biden perhaps best for this moment when an open mic captured his excitement about health care. >> ladies and gentlemen, the president of the united states of america, barack obama. [ bleep ] >> yes, he said this is a big f-ing deal, if you didn't quite catch it. but i'm sure you remember it. jason, we'll begin with you. why not pick the most vanilla candidate out there? >> it's actually a smart idea. if you are trying to make a big splash with your vp candidate, it means your campaign is already done. it's kind of like adding a new baby to a sitcom to raise the ratings. you know your show is done. so why do that sort of thing? mitt romney should pick somebody boring, just like him, and that will keep him in the focus. he is the top of the ticket. >> ron, you're a big time strategist. is that what they think about