of rakuten, hiroshi mikitani, mickey. mickey: please call me mickey. emily: call you mickey. emily: your new grand plan, a very grand plan, is to launch japan's newest wireless network, it would be the fourth wireless network. mickey: yes. emily: what is the strategy here? mickey: the strategy is very, very simple. our credit card which we started to issue 10 years ago. after 10 years, now we are the biggest credit card company in japan and we are still growing close to 25% year on year. the power of our ecosystem is proven. so we can acquire using our network. we can reach out to them, give them special package and ask them to join our network. the cost is pretty low and with this new architecture, we can reduce our investment. since everything is virtualized and software controlled, mostly automated, our maintenance is going to be less than 1% of our competitors. emily: so you say you can do this for 600 billion yen over 10 years. $5.5 billion, or so. investors are skeptical you can pull this off. what makes you think you can? mickey: because we can. we can. i can't control