when he first sat down for our interview with him at his inwood, colorado headquarters, i asked ergen to describe his new frontier. charlie: the transformation is going on into their places. one is television. tv itself is transforming. people are looking more for what they want to watch and not paying for things they don't watch. they want to watch their tv everywhere. part of that is the technology of ott, over the top, allows customers to do that. the second transformation is the wireless industry, where the world is going to be connected all the time. there is only two ways to do it -- one is through the wire and the other way is wirelessly. we started on this mission five years to say that we want to be part of that connectivity revolution. and we think that the best place to rest in the marketplace is in the wireless side. we are the biggest wireless company already. betty: so you have accumulated something like $60 billion in wireless assets? charlie: about 80 megahertz of spectrum. they vary in prices and valuations of what people think that's worth, but certainly, it is certa