chairman, what is going to be the greater challenge in reaching hissgoals, the republican in the houser democrats in the senate? >> is going to be very difficult in both chambers. >> why is that? >> in the house, these deficits are very big. we're talking about $1.5 trillion this year and the same next year and an average of five trillion dollars over 10 years. and we see many of them coming up for reelection this year. it is hard to imagine adding anything to the deficit this year. pennsylvania is in play. illinois is in play. >> steven, you kept asking questions going back to the politics of all of this. if what is your thinking? >> it you take the totality of the interview, what congressman spratt really illustrated was that the democrats are being pulled into different directions get sort of, high speed. they're closer snapping right now because they're having a hard time