precedent to city council funding an additional $25 million -- says we don't have confidence in bill hite. this man has been here for four years, and every single day has been a struggle about survival. and what he desperately needs is a mayor who is going to stand by him, who's going to take political flak for the things that he thinks we need to do in order to right the ship. those are the things that i'm worried about, and that's an opportunity for jim kenney to say, "i can say no." >> and we'll talk about the schools in a moment, a little bit later. larry, mayor nutter has had a strained relationship with city council. jim kenney, coming from council, has a great relationship. and, in fact, darrell clarke basically endorsed him right before the primary. is that a plus? >> unfortunately, not necessarily because i think they will work together. but the question is, will they work together on the right things, on the right things for the common good? and that's where there's a huge question mark. when you had him on "inside story" two weeks ago this gets to sam's point about being able t