she's kind of strange. >> she's hosting the hln coverage. my wife, for example, watches this trial like a monkey stares at a clock. millions of other people, you can't drag them away from it. it seems like this trial has been on tv longer than the amazing race. i guess you could call it "the amazing case." anybody who gives the finger to nancy grace, my enemy is my friend. nancy grace should be on trial for attempting to kill men's desire for women. however, i would say this. what if adam lanza didn't get killed, he's in jail and he's out tweeting bad things about the families of the kids he killed. he wouldn't put up for it so it's probably not a good thing. >> the fact is this opens the door for people like charles manson because you're allowing twitter accounts by proxy. people have designated twitters. so somebody tried to smuggle a cell phone into charles manson a couple weeks ago, he would probably start saying i want to tweet my daily meals and stuff like that and all of a sudden they'll have followers because people are sick and stup

first of all, she tweeted hln is an acronym for haters love negativity. jodi, if you're watching, hln isn't an ak niccronym, it's an initialism. >> it's an initialism? >> yes. >> the acronym thing, that's your buggaboo. >> is it an acronym or initialism? >> what about ald? andy levy is a doofus. if you pronounce it ald it's an acronym. if you say a-l-d, it's initials. it's not rocket science. dana, you said arias is making a mockery of these tweets and you were quite strong about it. why do you think that? >> because the jury is not allowed to look at the media, to talk about the media or say nick that's going on. in the meantime she's lobbying her case directly to the public without going through the media, which would be the traditional way of doing it. still she has to be judged by a jury of her peers. are you following me? >> no. not even a little. the jury can't read her tweets, right? >> maybe they are. that's the problem in arizona, they don't know what the jury is not seeing or haven't seen. that's why that one juror got kicked off. have you follo

she's kind of strange. >> she's hosting the hln coverage. my wife, for example, watches this trial like a monkey stares at a clock. millions of other people, you can't drag them away from it. it seems like this trial has been on tv longer than the amazing race. i guess you could call it "the amazing case." anybody who gives the finger to nancy grace, my enemy is my friend. nancy grace should be on trial for attempting to kill men's desire for women. however, i would say this. what if adam lanza didn't get killed, he's in jail and he's out tweeting bad things about the families of the kids he killed. he wouldn't put up for it so it's probably not a good thing. >> the fact is this opens the door for people like charles manson because you're allowing twitter accounts by proxy. people have designated twitters. so somebody tried to smuggle a cell phone into charles manson a couple weeks ago, he would probably start saying i want to tweet my daily meals and stuff like that and all of a sudden they'll have followers because people are sick and stup

she has an hln show "raising america." when we watched this live. a lot of us and the team were like, wow, look at those kids, they're so cute and adorable. everyone wanted to know were they okay because the parents obviously had some trouble with the law. they're now back with the grandparents. and others, some moms, were really angry and upset with the grandparents. do you think it was appropriate how the grandparents managed handled this? >> we talk about the news story through the parents' perspective. for me, was furious. i mean i was there on the set anchoring the elliott gonzalez story. i remember what the little boy went through. it was like sheer panic. he could have been smiling. hi was played like such a political pawn and you saw what it did to them. you know, i look at these two little boys and they're so adorable, waving, holding hands. that's a lock to take at 2 and 4 with all these cameras and not for a second do these kids thing they were on sum adventure. let's be real. their parents talked openly about b

. >> earlier i asked hln's jane velez-mitchell what she thought in the case. >> that was perhaps heratest admission. she was talking about a message that travis alex sander saying he was afraid, and she said he could not be that terrified of her because he continued to communicate with her and continued to have sex with jodi arias, and who would have sex with their stalker which is one of the riddles of the case. >> we typically don't see this back and forth, or this type of back and forth between the expert and the attorney like we saw this week. let's watch part of it. >> if you want the truth of this? >> yes or no? >> mr. martinez? >> yes or no? >> the person in the blue shirt over there moved to mesa, arizona, correct? >> it's not a yes or no. i cannot give that a yes or no. >> is that stalking behavior? >> i am over here. quit tooking to your left. >> arizona jurors could ask questions, and it's working based on the juror questions. they asked 150 questions of this defense domestic violence expert who is arguing that jodi was a victim of travis alexander, that he abused her emot

and anchor of hln after dark.another piece of tape before you come up with that answer or at least it may affect your answer. this is the domestic abuse expert on the stand. and it's all about how jodi in court is reacting. take a look. >> if you're doing things that you don't want to do, even if you act like you like doing them, which i've seen people do a lot or even if you like some of it, because usually people do like their sexual intimacy. it, and you keep doing it, and you're not doing it because you want to to it, you're doing it because you feel like that's what keeps the relationship together. you stop liking who you are, because their is not what you want. >> so first question, jean, would be to you. we could see her crying because the camera position is nice and close. can the jury see her crying? and do we know if they reacted in any way whatsoever to it? >> it's a big court rom and jodi is a ways away from the jury. but i worked hard to see if jurors were looking at her. bass the angle is almost the

he takes hln's ryan smith on a walk-through of the stabbing like you have perhaps never seen before.he thing that's so telling for me is there is one image that's taken off that camera that's very telling. and that's with travis turned in the shower, hands against the wall, and we see his pristine back. we know there's no injuries in there. this is a completely defenseless position. it's my thought that while he was in a position similar to this, that jodi advanced on him and struck. she stabbed him nine times, nine times between the shoulder blades which is very difficult to do because it's so highly concentrated. in addition to that, stabbed him twice in the neck, then twice in the top of the head. >> what's he doing at this point? >> at this point time he's probably beginning to slouch in the shower, to go to the floor. now, as she advances again, i think that she's still on top of him. she comes forward with the knife. he raises his hands because there are significant defensive injuries. he grabs hold of the blade several times. his hands are cut. and then finally, she stabs him

and kyra phillips from hln's "raising america," a mom too.now your twins, i've seen them, adorable. what do you do, kyra? what is the responsibility? i assume they go on play dates. >> oh, sure. >> do you ask if they have a gun in the house? >> absolutely. and i'm so opinionated about this and so outspoken about this. you know, they are my children. i worked hard to get those children. i'm worried about their safety every moment of their lives. and if they are going to be with another family, i have no problem saying, do you have a swimming pool? do you have guns? if you do have guns, do you keep them in a safe? do you have a trampoline? what kind of backyard do you have? i am -- do you have an malignants, a dog? i have no problem because not every parent is the same way. and i may be -- i'm on my kids all the time. i know what they're doing. i'm big on safety. but i don't know that other parents are like that. >> you have this long laundry list, are there parents who meet those qualifications? >> we're not going to let your kids come over to

and of course kyra's show "raising america" airs weekdays on hln. let me know what you think about all of this and we'll share some of your comments. are you still sleeping? just wanted to check and make sure that we were on schedule. the first technology of its kind... mom and dad, i have great news. is now providing answers families need. siemens. answers. plays a key role throughout our lives. one a day women's 50+ is a complete multivitamin designed for women's health concerns as we age. it has 7 antioxidants to support cell health. one a day 50+. >>> all right. the sportswear company reebok is dropping rick ross after lyrics in his song elude to raping women. he raps about giving a drug he calls mali to women and then having his way with them. he has since apologized but the lyrics are sparking outrage from fans and lots of chatter online. let's turn to digital expert james andrew with me now. he's the founder of social people. james, what are people saying about this? these are news items that are just simply igniting in, you know, the blogosp

it's on -- hln is covering this 24/7. you flip the tv, you'll see stories about this case.and have discussed this case. it's been so long. it's so gruelling, this trial, that how could they not talk about it with people? so, unless they can uncover some of the jurors who may have seen this, those jurors will be removed and we may have a mistrial here, fred. but if jodi is directing someone to post tweets, i mean, at the end of the day, how are you going to prove that, really? >> so, avery, how much effort would be -- would go into that to see if that could be proven, if she's tweeting? >> well, i think where it comes out, i'm not in a court, i think she is, indeed, using an intermediary to post remarks about juan martinez, even about nancy grace. and the fact is, i mean, is the defense team on propofol? i mean, really, if they're aware their client is using an intermediary to tweet -- >> why wouldn't they say anything? >> what in the world? i'm shocked. >> what would you say? >> look, if this continues, i'm out of it. i'm going to petition the court to get out. i mean, this

clark howard is hln's money expert. terry savidge is a financial columnist and author of "the savage truth on money." clark, the dow, the s&p 500 shattering records. if you're riding this bull run, you want to know if it's time to sell. if you're not in the market you want to know if it's too late to get in. let's start simple. when do you sell this market? >> when you need the money, truthfully, because i'm the turtle, and what i do is every month i put in a set amount of money into a variety of investments. i've been in thick and thin, going back you think about the crash in 2000, when we hit the low point four years ago. i stayed in. i ignored all the hype. i ignored all the fear of four years ago. if you stay in the game, you don't try to guess when to get in, when to get out. things may be a little overvalued right now because of the federal reserve manipulating interest rates down and people looking for a place to put money, but still, you got to think about your time horizon. i got a long time before i need the m

hln's ryan smith was watching. >> this is the death of michael jackson. just that he's a famous star. it's that someone lost their son, their brother, their father. >> david walgrin laid out the prosecution's case. >> michael jackson trusted his life to the medical skills of conrad murray. that misplaced trust in the hands of conrad murray cost michael jackson his life. >> to help prove the case, prosecutors present a very different image of the pop legend. from a vibrant singer, dancer and entertainer on stage, to a completely different person behind the scenes. >> to michael jackson. >> then, midway through opening arguments, a stunning moment. the voice of michael jackson as he'd never been heard before. >> when people leave my show, i want them to say he's the greatest entertainer of the world. >> jackson sounded fragile. impaired. incapable. and that's just what kenny ortega feared. ortega was directing the most anticipated show in decades, with a star he feared wasn't up to it. but murray insisted he was in charge of jackson's health. >> he said i s

hln's ryan smith was watching. >> this is the death of michael jackson.not just that he's a famous star. it's that someone lost their son, their brother, their father. >> david walgrin laid out the prosecution's case. >> michael jackson trusted his life to the medical skills of conrad murray. that misplaced trust in the hands of conrad murray cost michael jackson his life. >> reporter: to help prove the case, prosecutors present a very different image of the pop legend. from a vibrant singer, dancer and entertainer on stage, to a completely different person behind the scenes. >> to michael jackson. >> reporter: then, midway through opening arguments, a stunning moment. the voice of michael jackson as he'd never been heard br. >> when people leave my show, i want them to say he's the greatest entertainer of the world. >> reporter: jackson sounded fragile. impaired. incapable. and that's just what kenny ortega feared. ortega was directing the most anticipated show in decades, with a star he feared wasn't up to it. but murray insisted he was in charge of jac

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. >> all right, let's bring in hln contributor and criminal attorney joey jackson, and criminal defenseey jeff brown. welcome to both of you. >> thank you, carol. >> thank you. >> thank you for being with me. you know, i would like to talk a little bit about the mother of the suspects because we just got word that russia intercepted this conversation that the mother and one of the suspects talked about jihad. and that's about all we know. if i were a criminal defense attorney representing the youngest suspect, the surviving suspect, i really want to question the mother. how difficult will that be, joey? >> think it will be very difficult based upon the fact she is where she is. if she was in the united states and thereby subject to our jurisdiction, it would be another matter. there has been a lot of matter about her coming over to visit her young son, in addition to bury her other son. that would make it a different matter. i think that's been slowed by the fact it's alleged she has some warrant, which of course, would subject her to imprisonment immediately. if we had jurisdiction, it

. >> reporter: ratings are way up for hln which is not only carrying the trial gavel to gavel but providingt analysis going so far as building a replicca of a bathroom where travis alexander was killed. >> it is sex. it is the attractiveness of the defendant, the testimony. this case has it all. >> reporter: this, of course, isn't the first trial to draw high ratings. through were three o.j. simpson trials, michael jackson and most recently casey anthony. >> casey anthony did not have this. >> reporter: casey anthony did have a dramatic ending being found not guilty which sent some trial watchers into his terices. the verdict in this case is expected at some point later this month. when it does come hundreds of thousands of people will be tuning in to find out what happens. >>> up next we are closing in on the closing arguments in the jodi arias trial. could this make or break the case? despite everything we have heard until now? could it come down to the closing? our legal panel will weigh in. music ... music ... music... [ boy ] i used to hate eating healthy stuff. but badger likes it, so

. >> reporter: ratings are way up for cnn's sister network hln, providing expert analysis. >> it's the the defendant, it's the salacio salaciousness of the testimony. >> orenthal james simpson, not guilty of the crime of murder. >> there were three o.j. simple son trials, michael jackson, scott peterson and most recently casey anthony. >> this is a real good one, casey anthony did not have this. >> casey anthony did have a dramatic ending, being found not guilty which, sent some trial watchers into his derricks. >> the verdict in this case is expected at some point later this month, when it does come, thousands, make that hundreds of thousands of people, like trulinda kerr tuning in to find out what happens. >>> this is one of the biggest cheating scandals to hit the country's public schools ever. 35 atlanta educate fors are now indicted on corruption and -- they are accused of changing or falsifying answers on standardized tests, the alleged cheating actually goes back as far as 2001. among those faces charging is former superintendent elizabeth paul. paul denies any involvement in th

on hln. dr.his, the fact she's being sent to a facility, is that fairly common for someone who has bipolar 2 disorder and what sort of treatment would one receive? >> absolutely. listen, catherine zeta-jones needs to be commended for the manner in which she has reported her bipolar disorder. this is one of the most common psychiatric conditions, it has a medical treatment, it a chronic illness, very much like diabetes or asthma, and it requires frequent tuneups, adjustments in medication and sometimes hospitalization. she's been very matter of fact about it and that is precisely the way to deal with this illness. it is not a headline that she needs to be in a hospital to have her medication adjusted, which is really often the main focus of bipolar disorder, getting the medication right. there can be group therapy and individual therapy as well. just to look at the overall psychological function of the individual. but primarily this is a medical disorder, with a medical management and a matter of

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national security analysts are here, fran townsend, and former fbi assistant director tom fuentes, also hln enforcement analyst mike brooks. fran, let's go through the pictures. we were talking about suspect number two, wearing the white cap. there are eight still photos, i want to put up on the screen, so viewers in the united states and around the world can get a better look at this individual. you see, fran, the baseball cap backwards on his head. you see his outfit there. he could pass for anyone almost, boston, a lot of college students, he's walking around at the end of the boston marathon, pretty casually. >> he is, wolf. you used a word earlier to describe him as cocky. and let's focus on that for a second. because i think you're absolutely right. you don't get cocky and confident with a bomb in your backpack unless you've thought about this, unless you've planned it. and the likelihood is, these guys did sort of what we call operational surveillance. they did dry runs before. so when the fbi special agent in charge says they're especially interested in those who were inside the res

mike brooks, the hln law enforcement analyst is joining us right now. a lot about these controlled explosions. they can be pretty terrifying if you're in a neighborhood, mike, and you hear a loud boom and you don't know this is something that law enforcement is deliberately doing, you could be pretty scared. >> oh, absolutely, wolf. i'm glad that the colonel from the massachusetts state police let everyone know that this would be happening. you know, this is -- they're concentrating right now on norfolk street there in cambridge where the two brothers apparently lived in this apartment. but we don't know if there's explosives in the apartment. what they're doing right now, special agent bomb techs from the field division and also i can guarantee you there's explosive examiners from quantico, from the explosives lab in quantico, virginia. what they want to do is make sure they can gather as much evidence as possible in this apartment where they live. so, you know, they're doing an assessment. they probably have already done an assessment and decided what

. >> more now from our legal team nancy grace host of hln's "nancy grace" joins us again and our abcnk you both for joining us. what is the prosecutor martinez trying to do being so tough? >> i'm having a hard time making out what you're saying, i think you asked what is martinez trying to do with laviolette on the stand? i would like to point out that i have been watching the jury questions piling up and piling up. they're going to have their way with laviolette before it's over. something very disturbing came out yesterday at the very end of trial. we found out yesterday that jodi arias has written a manifesto of sorts and has been signing it to cash in on her notoriety, quote, if she should become famous. we also learned that jodi arias was very excited about her i.q. test behind bars because she thinks that it equals the i.q. of albert einstein. i've got a problem with that. >> well, look, the prosecutor has a ton of ammunition here to use with this witness, which to go to your question, begs the question, why is he often yelling at this witness? and he did it less so, by the way

there was extra security at bus stops in the area and schools hln law enforcement anast mike brooks isd stabbed to death. but i want to ask about timing, because i know it is crucial here. what leads, if ? >> well brooke they have done a search warrant on the house. and apparently they have found some fingerprint evidence and is dnaknow they're also setting up a number of roadblocks, stopping cars in and out of the area to see whether or not they may anything at all d t particular time of day. so you know they had also about 100 law enforcement county in valley springs doing a search of that area. but so far they have not found anything. but i can tell you, they're also probably looking at iser registries. i looked up myself in the california sex are a number calaveras but springs, there are 12. so i guarantee you that investigators are going to make sure that those peopl pocket and know their whereabouts when this thing happened. >> so looking at a sex offender in the area but i also know that, mike, in situations where you have someone who is found stabbed to death and find the perso

nancy grace, on hln. "gma" legal analyst, dan abrams. let me begin with you.at that closet. nothing moved. in pristine shape. that comes before the prosecution puts up its last witness today, the medical examiner. they want the jurors to have a very clear image in their head. >> absolutely. and it wasn't just a pristine closet. i'm sure you've met those guys that are neat-nicks. and they have the shoe protectors in all of their shoes and everything is color-coded. that was travis alexander. and jodi arias' story is that she climbed up those shelves, essentially, to reach back in the back, to get out the murder weapon, only she knew about it. that was all debunked. not only did they show photos of this pristine -- and it looked like a california closet ad. also, when the detective put his hand on the shelf, it came down. it cannot hold the weight of the body. and this is what i say. i don't need to be an expert in closets to know, when you bring grandma, when you wheel grandma into the courtroom, you're down at the bottom of the barrel. they're doing anything t

new information in the investigation, cnn analyst and former fbi assistant director tom fuentes and hln bombs, what we now know. we're hearing the bombs were put in pressure cookers, likely involved with timing device. what do you make of that? >> i would like to know what the basis is that it is pressure cookers because the bomb characteristics look very much like a typical pipe bomb. and a pressure cooker would act like that, and i know from other incidents that pressure cookers have been used basically to use for land -- excuse me, land mines in places like colombia or in the middle east. i'm not aware of one off hand where a pressure cooker was used domestically, an actual crock pot or slow cooker because a pipe bomb would be easier to use and just screw on the caps at the end of the pipe after you inserted the explosive and the detonator and then placed it in a container that has other debris or nails or shrapnel and exploded that way. so i'm not sure. i haven't seen the direct evidence that the pressure cookers were used that way, but certainly it would have acted with similar fas

i want to bring in jason carroll in new york and hln law enforcement analyst mike brooks in atlanta.on, let me begin with you, because i was listening to this news conference, as i know you were, and i was stunned to learn there were six more bombs these guys had at their disposal. >> yeah. it's sobering when you hear about what new york officials learned through the joint terrorism task force they said last night, again, six improvised explosive devices, one was the pressure cooker type of bomb used during the boston bombing, the other five pipe bombs. this is what the two brothers had in their possession and even though the commissioner and mayor michael bloomberg say this was a spontaneous decision, it's still pretty sobering to think about the idea that these two brothers, had they not run out of gas and had they not been caught, had this sort of improvised, spontaneous plan to drive down to new york city. initially we were told from police officials here that the initial plan was for them to come to new york city to party. i know you remember that report, as well, but after they