hochul: first, thanks for having me on the show.rst address why the debate is to whether we need stimulus. i don't understand how anyone would conclude that we can survive without a stimulus package. we never anticipated having to deal with a global pandemic when our budget was put together. not new york, not any other state in the nation. we have incurred stored in area expenses. we have a huge hit to our sales tax revenues. income taxes are going to be plummeting. all of our traditional revenue sources are not there for us. so we will need the stimulus plan. it is not debatable. new york state cannot be left on its own. this is a national crisis, a federal disaster. if we had real leadership out of washington, they would understand that. fortunately, democrats in the house understand it. chuck schumer understands that. we are not getting the support we need, and we are going to suffer. tom: we should state to our global audience that the persuasion of the lieutenant governor is to the democracy, and to that of a credit party. -- i