senator john hoeven, nd ntorth dakota. we appreciate it.id callahan along with cnbc contributor of the american enterprise institute and ann coulter is still here. james, what do you think of all of this? >> i think we need to get to the process where the democrats are asking for tax increases as soon as possible. >> that's tonight, right? that's tonight. that's tonight. >> i want to hear it all. closing the loopholes, carried interest. let's get it all started right now. that's where all of this is leading to. terrified every time i hear about the budget gaps. >> at the end. day, what have we got? that's where this whole thing has ended up. stopping i think behind all of this, this is an odd thing, we started out with the ted cruz stuff, let's defund obama care, let's delay obama care, let's do this, that, and the other thing to obama care, they were going to vote on the car of out. it's about not cutting spending. it's about shredding the sequester, which is the single only pro growth thing we've already had. isn't that what the democrats

host: coming up, we will speak with john hoeven on the farm bill.r, we will talk with the smithsonian intervenor david weiss. first, news update with c-span radio. >> some international news this hour. police and china announce the rest of the of five people in connection with this week's suicide car crash in the heart of china's capital. they're calling it a planned terror attack. beijing's first in recent history. they identify the attackers as members of a muslim minority. police say the five suspects were detained the same afp monday attack at the firm -- the same day as the monday attack at the gate that sentiment square where party leaders live and work. back here in washington, war on the health-care rollout. cnn reports says the main website contractor cgi reported side issues before the launch on october 1. a company documents as there was not enough time in the schedule to conduct with a call adequate personal torments -- adequate performance testing. there was at least one employee informed by an executive. in 45 minutes, hhs secretary ka

. >> john hoeven is a republican from north dakota joining us right now. did you vote for the bill yesterday? >> yes, i did. >> why? >> well, it doesn't have the things in that i wanted it for or i believe that it needs, which is structural reforms and savings. but it's the best teal we could get right now because the president isn't willing to negotiate, contrary to what mr. sperling just said. we had to get government open. we had to make sure we didn't default on our debt. look, we need a debt ceiling agreement that actually attacks the underlying problems we have, which is that we're spending more than we're taking in. >> senator, isn't the reality, though, the debt ceiling just gives more leverage to you, to your party, to the minority group in washington to negotiate where it may not necessarily have deserved a negotiating stance based on the share of the vote that it won from the public? >> kelly, what we're working on, we purposely kept the time line short and we set up a process to make sure that we get the kind of structural reforms and savings w

here to weigh on the ongoing negotiations senator john hoeven of north daka.enator,, let me ask you, would you vote yes or no on the proposal we're talking about now? >> melissa, we've got toee it but we need something done. we're working on two fronts, the house bill which i'm supportive of them bringing a bill forward. we're negotiating with the senate as well. yes, i very much want -- melissa: wt do you think of thei details? i mean basically it's clean. all the way through as they would say. extending, funding the government through december 15, taking the debt ceiling to february 7th. it jt has th vitter language in there. would you support that specifically? >> yes. and we in the working very hard for them to advce the bill to us. we're actively working with t house couerparts to pass the bill and move it over to the senate so we can go to work on it. melissa: some ofhe gossip behind the scenes ts, is move to dump it i your lap. soundike you welcome that. uld it be sticking it to democrats at all they would be faced with, you can accept it as it is if yo

hoeven: mr. president, i ask unanimous consent that the senate proceed to the immediate consideration of calendar number 206, house resolution 3230, making continuing appropriations during a government shutdown to provide pay and allowances to members of the reserve components of the armed forces. i ask fourth consent that the measure be read three times and passed and the motion to reconsider be considered made and laid upon the table. the presiding officer: is there objection? mrs. murray: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator from washington. mrs. murray: reserving right to object. we are again seeing a request to fund a small part of our government. this request refers to our national guard and reserve. these are amazing members of our american family who have given and sacrificed with great honor, who i find to a one are selfless, and not a one of them would say, take care of me but do not take care of any of the other americans who are home today or whose businesses have been hu

hoeven: mr. president, i'd like to thank my esteemed colleague from illinois and take this time to offer some remarks on the debt ceiling and continuing operations of the government. mr. president, i come to the floor today to make an appeal for action, action on opening up the government and action on addressing the debt ceiling. of course that requires bipartisan effort. that's something that our colleagues on both sides of the aisle have to work together to accomplish. and we've been negotiating now, not only our leadership -- senator reid, senator mcconnell -- but the members of this body, republican and democrat, both sides of the aisle, we've been negotiating, talking about many different ideas. but now we need to come together and find a way to both address the debt ceiling and to get the government open. the kind of ideas that we've discussed include a short-term extension of the debt ceiling. certainly members on may side of the aisle feel -- on my side of the aisle feel that we have to

senators voting in the negative, alexander, ayatt, fisher, flake, graham, grassley, ho hoeve hoeven, johnson of wisconsin, lee, mcconnell, maran, murkowski, paul, roberts, rubio, scott, toomey, wicker. mr. hatch, mr. hatch, no. mr. keyesia, mr. keyesia, no. mr. barroso, mr. barroso, no. mr. shelby, mr. shelby, no. mr. sessions, mr. sessions, no. mrs. shaheen, mrs. shaheen, aye. mr. blunt, mr. blunt, no. >> all right, we're going to step away from the drama in the senate chamber. and continue our conversations with chuck conesburg, he was an assistant director of the white house office of management during the '95 shutdown. in listening to all what is going on this morning, does it feel the same in '95? does it feel worse? how do you characterize this? >> well, 1995 was pretty bad. it was the longest shutdown in u.s. history, lasted for three weeks. this one, this one feels that it could be as bad, because of the level of gridlock that is currently in place right now. >> roger simon from politico, he just said this feels different from '95 because he said that legislators are meaner.

i journeyed up to the morehead area and joined senator hoeven in fargo. we like to call it morehead fargo in minnesota. two towns joined by a river -- divided by a river but joined by common interests. we met about the importance of sugar beets, about importance of a farm bill for that region of the country. i have to tell you through my week, i quickly heard, which i'm sure you did in wisconsin, that the people of this country are sick and tired of gridlock politics. they are sick and tired of people standing in the opposite corner of the boxing ring and throwing punches. they are sick and tired of a red light, green light game that's been played with policy. it is time to come together and get this done. i am convinced in there is any silver lining or hope that came out of the chaos of last month, it is that the american people saw firsthand why we need change, why we need to work together, and that is why, in fact, senator hoeven and i came together across the river to make a very strong statement that we thought we had to get this bill done. as a memb