>> i mention hoffman, but i don't know if i mentioned the book. they had a love -- hoffman had a love-hate thing with leery. >> what happened to the psychedelic reader? >> i've seen it. there was the harvard psychedelic review, before that, i'm not sure. ralph i think was maybe the editor of that, not leery. >> [inaudible] >> yeah, yeah. like i said, there's so much, you know, i just couldn't get it in. i really had to skim across the top of the story to get it all told. i mean, and especially after they leave harvard, so much happened with all four of the guys. i have not talked about smith, a wonderful man, you know, born in china, methodist missionaries, interesting story. it's in the book. >> one last question. >> one more. >> you mentioned allen ginsberg if the talk. as a result of the research, what's your impressions of him, his role in this, and, you know, where does he hit into all ofz&s this? >> like i think i mentioned, he just pops up, you know, on the cusp of everything, you know, and alar -- earlier on with the beats story and all of

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third party candidates and their supporters are looking to capitalize on the disenchantment of tom hoffman the host of oxys the big picture says they have a very real chance of making that message. third parties historically have have influence presidential elections there's never been a third party that actually won one but there have been third parties that have changed the nature of presidential elections i don't think that in this election cycle the third parties are going to have a real significant effect in terms of this particular election but what they are doing and what these debates are doing is raising those issues raising those topics and subjects that generally are ignored by both the corporate mainstream media and the two major political parties in ways that that tend to energize movements and movement politics is typically where actual political change happens movement politics eventually infiltrate even major party politics so so i think that these are very important dates. well this tuesday the party candidates will be hosting the last debate it's featuring the past winner

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hoffman's partner steve cells. >> you're the bad guy. >> absolutely i am. a wolf in sheep's clothing. >> reporter: they got city approval to sub divide the two acres to build two new big house. >> it was he in never a secret. >> you were going to tear down a frank lloyd wright house. >> that was the intention. >> that's what ignited the controversy. when the partners got a demolition permit outraged preservationists got busy. they got a petition to stop the demolition and got the city planning commission to designate it as a historic landmark. >> never in my wildest dream would i have thought that someone would want to tear down a frank lloyd wright home. >> do you think they are being greedy? >> yes, do i. i think they are in it only for the money. >> reporter: they say they are businessmen needing to turn a profit. they can't restore the gem which they say would cost $2 million and they can't afford to have it sit around as a historic museum piece. >> this is not a get rich. this is a get out, get compensated, and move on with my simple quiet life and jon

the sheriff was named i the lawsuit who claims hoffman was aware that his brother repeatedly sexually assaulted her but took no action. her lawsuit was filed on august 23rd but records show that the two brothers have not been served. the lawsuit is asking for millions in damage. >>> energy drinks are all the rage. >> one family said monster energy drink is the cause for their daughter's death. >>> plus, important changes when this comes to women and cervical cancer screenings. >>> new indications that boys are hitting puberty earlier, sometimes before the age of 10. we'll look at what may be to blame. it's heavy lifting. you start with a democratic senator named ben. by getting bwi-marshall funding for new runways, he's helping us serve 21 million passengers a year, which helps keep 100,000 jobs that depend on the airport, and that means more cargo for more businesses and more skycaps unloading more taxis... welcome to bwi. ...carrying families with more luggage. thanks. it's like he's out here with us. he's my friend, ben. i hope he's your friend, too. i'm ben cardin, and i approve t

joining me, matthew hoffman, managing director of cowan and company. matthew, is it price?e when the price came out, maybe it was just coincidence but that is when the stocks seemed to go further south? >> right. for months we heard the price would be $299. so the 329 was maybe a little higher than the street was looking for and there's a little bit of confusion about maybe whether it will be able to beat the google nexus and lower priced kindle fire tablets that are out there. i think once the product gets out there in the market, proves it has face time, it has the ability, it is lighter, it has got great battery life, there are a lot of good features on the product. once it gets out there maybe some investor concerns will ease a little bit. david: you mentioned amazon. amazon is very happy. if you look at the two stocks, the intraday trading for amazon and apple and put them over each other, they're the exact opposite. they're mirror image. exactly when applebee goon to go down significantly midday is when you see the stock for amazon go straight up. >> right. david: the

. >> max hoffman was in lexington for that speech. foreign policy was never at the heart of romney's message. he has always been about the economy. what did we learn about him here? are we looking at a new conservative republican? -- neo-conservative republican? >> they avoided the name "george w. bush" similar to ronald reagan's foreign-policy. they do not want to be in his corner. at the same time, they want to take advantage of the traditional republican strength. they believe they are tougher when it comes to national security. he's trying to solve that dilemma by saying he wants to avoid war by spending more on the military. he does not want to scare off any independent voters but at the same time he wants to satisfy his conservative clients. >> let's look at the broader campaign. last week, he got a big boost from winning that the raid against obama. the polling numbers also looking better for him now. is the obama campaign worried? >> nervous, there is no question, but as there has been some significant change in some of the mo

what is the most important thing you learned from hoffman?eaters now. that does it for us. we leave you this morning with a look back at what has been an incredible week with debates and much more. we hope you'll have a great, great weekend. i'm certainly looking forward to it. >> come back on monday! >> see you on monday. >> we're going to win florida and take back the white house. >> it is time for north carolina, for the entire country to come together. >> get us back on track. we're going to make that happen. thank you guys! >> romney has momentum. there is another thing he's got and that is enthusiasm among his supporters. >> 49% favor governor mitt romney. >> this is an opportunity for mitt romney to look like a president, like a leader. >> set out a very very strong approach for america being a leader. >> is he moving to the senter? >> i think he's moving to the center. i think he's always been pretty much where he is. >> is he going to be someone who gets into office and supports anti-abortion legislation? yes or no? >> have mitt romn

. >> reporter: journalism student cheyenne matthews-hoffman was admitted through that process. >> u.t. at the moment has, like, 4.5% african american students with race considered. that's a really small portion of students here, and it is kind of alienating when you don't have a lot of students on campus that look like you. >> reporter: students have differing views. angus mcleod is a senior. >> when you're taking a class on black literature and there's not a single black student in the class it-- it can be kind of a depressing experience. you lose an interpretation and a view on what you're reading, what you're studying that would be really helpful otherwise. >> reporter: senior kaitlin williams: >> it would crush me to know that i have the same qualifications as someone, and i'm not getting into graduate school just because of my skin color. >> reporter: 27 years after heman sweatt's case went to court, his great nephew graduated from u.t. >> hopefully one day it is a point in time in which there is no need of-- for affirmative action. however, i don't think we are there yet. >> rep

. >> reporter: sharon hoffman is one of the handful of folks who paid top dollar to chat with the president in an intimate setting. and she is thrilled. >> it's a roundtable that is actually taking place apparently at a square table where he is going to talk and answer questions for approximately an hour about anything that the folks there want to talk about. so i'm really excited. it's a real treat and a privilege and really an honor. >> reporter: again, we understand that event is expected to last for about an hour. you can see the secret service continues to be on stand by here. now from here the president will travel about six blocks up to the bill graham civic auditorium, where he will attend two more pricey fundraisers. reporting live, jodi hernandez, nbc bay area news. >> thanks, jodi. just down the street from the intercontinental hotel is the bill graham auditorium where the president's next event will take place. >> that's with a we fine jean elle. notable names getting ready to take the stage. not only the stage, but the kitchen, correct? >> reporter: that's right. along with the

. >> sharon hoffman and her husband paid top dollar to see the president. >> he is going to ask questions and talk about anything that they want to talk about. >> he need to get as much money going as he can to deal with the election in the battleground states. the president pretty much as the bay area already in the bag. but he needs their figs ctio fi support to win over the rest of the country. >> we are the state that both sides, even though we are a heavily democratic state are going to come out and take advantage of that hollywood money and that california gold. >> we are back here live where you can see the san francisco police department has the street barricaded off as the first of three fundraisers takes place. this is the first of three tonight. from here he will travel six blocks up the street to the big gra graham civic auditorium. reporting live from san francis francisco. nbcbay area news. >> jean, big concert, big meal and big money. should be quite a party with notable names, right? >> that is right. big names, celebrity chefs are helping the president raise much needed c

from mainstream media policies have a hard time being seen or heard and new york resident hilary hoffman is found out many are oblivious to the fact that they exist at all. this week third party candidates for the u.s. presidency held a debate do americans even know that this week let's talk about that did you watch the third party debate. do you think did best. obama do best no that's not the third party debate who do you think did a good job in the third party debate i think think the parag obama did a little bit better job than mitt romney i know that the third party debate that was the main candidates that day but the third parties are we have actual other candidates that are running did you know that no i didn't there's jill stein she's the the green party there's gary johnson libertarian and none of these names ring a bell and i don't think it's unfortunate that americans don't know they have more than two main options you know we're stuck with democrats or republicans we don't go over for that so why do you think that is. the tradition. tradition. we do we used to why i don't thin

authorities called to the 2500 block of hoffman street just before 3:30 saturday afternoon where they found the man suffering from at least one gunshot wound. the victim's identity has not been released. detectives are scouring the city this morning in their search for this missing 12-year-old girl. d'naijah anderson never made it home from school on thursday and was last seen around the 1500 block of woodheights avenue. police are asking anyone with information to call 911 immediately. d'naijah is 4'9" and was wearing a yellow hooded sweatshirt, navy blue shirt and khaki pants. >> emergency responders spent hours at a high rise on saturday in harbor east, training in the event of a terrorist attack. it's a full-scale elaborate exercise based on how quickly local emergency jurisdictions can respond to a terrorism incident with mass casualties. the scenario was designed to be as realistic as possible with victims played by actors and training mannequins. >> when i arrived. i met with the police incident commander and what happens is the police had a bomb, the bomb -- they had several b

it's led by phillip seymour hoffman. >> i'm sorry if i got out of hand last night. >> don't apologizentist and connoisseur. i have no contents of this remarkable potion. what's in it? >> secrets. >> paul thomas anderson joins us. here's a film according to people i know, not critics but critics too. they love it or they don't love it. what's going on? >> good question. >> we loved it. we put it out. >> we thought for sure everybody would go for it. we have a way of people digging it and a wave coming around what's going on here. we made something that was a little bit to the left. >> but people are talking about it. >> yeah. which is great. which is all you can hope for. >> what is it? what makes people -- is at any time character? is it the idea? >> probably has a lot to do with the characters. that there's something about the character that bill plays is little bit unnoble. somebody proposing to have the secret to the universe and hard to get to know. maybe that rubs in with the film. maybe that -- >> joaquin phoenix is so troubled and you can see his trouble just trying to figure i

hoffman was at stanford, zuckerberg was at harvard, the elite now goes into the internet.that's where the smart kids go. so they're driving policy. the problem with america is given itself anti-political -- given its anti-political culture, the smartest people don't go into politics. and that process is come pounded -- compounded more and more. technology runs rings around politicians. so i think our challenge in america is figuring out, it's like with teaching, how do we get the reid hoffmans and mac zuckerbergs to become politicians and teachers? because that's what america needs perhaps more than success fortunately entrepreneurs or equally, politicians who are as dynamic as the kind of entrepreneurs now flocking to silicon valley. >> can we go on and puncture some more? >> would you agree with that? is that outrageous? >> i think it is -- i think it's not outrageous, but you're wrong. [laughter] and there is a distinction. because, well, let's move on to this in the q&a. i wanted to pose a few more questions to you before we open it up to the audience, and we can have

scientology between tom cruise and katie holmes divorce and the new movie out with philip seymour hoffmancalled the master which is said to be based on scientology and even just those scientologists on the street wanted to bring in more people just on my walk to work this evening i was handed this flyer it's a flyer promising to determine my i.q. and my personality and inviting me to determine my future no obligations it says no matter what the shroud of secrecy will remain but archie correspondent liz wahl was able to speak to some former scientologists who came forward with stories of their experiences in the church. a family tragedy shines a spotlight on a religion facing growing scrutiny little did i know. how the church of scientology would destroy my family turn my son against me let his body die in the mall deny me a last look little did i. care until a carrier says when she left the church of scientology the church forced her son alexander jens to cut off ties with her to deny me one last look for fifteen seconds i begged off the hero director i said eyes only i won't tell the med

authorities were called to the 2500 block of hoffman street just before 3:30 saturday afternoon where they found the man suffering from at least one gunshot wound. it's unclear whether the shooting was random or the victim was targeted. the victim's identity has not been released. >> it was an intense situation for four hours at a highrise in harbor east. emergency crews from the region to a mock terrorist attack. the urban area security initiative, a full-scale initiative to learn how quickly local emergency workers can respond to a massive terrorist attack. each first responder was given a specific role. >> when i arrived, i met with the police incident commander and what happens is the police had a bomb, the bomb -- they had several bombs, devices, and one of them exploded. at that point it becomes a fire department operation because now we have wounded civilians, structural stability to the building and possibly a fire. >> trying to figure out where all the patients were, who needed to be transported first, getting everybody to an area where they can be treated and figuring which

they make nixon look like abbi hoffman. >> you had harsh words for carl rove in ohio.hat do you think of his ad barrage against senator brown? >> i think carl rove is a coward who enjoys pouring money -- you know, i think he has targeted labor in ohio, in wisconsin to some extent in michigan because e he wants to cut the head off of labor and they are not going to let him do it. >> this is in an effort to get rid of the last democrat support and foundation because of the social networking and also the boots on the ground that labor unions have provided. what are you hearing? what's your sense in ohio? >> my sense in ohio, i felt very confident that sherrod is in a very good position. i think the president is in a good position. i think we can take nothing for granted and have to run through that finish line and get out the vote. people are voting early and the democrats just have to stay focused and i think we're going to have a good result. >> the republicans clearly have attacked public education. what are the chances of prop 32 getting money into public education in

hoffman? >> mr. chief justice, and may it please the court, the plaintiffs in this case received asylum in the united states because of the human rights violations alleged in the complaint. they sued the defendants for their role in these human rights violations in u.s. general personal jurisdiction of our courts. abouts nothing unusual suing a tortfeasor in our -- >> may i ask you about the statement you just made? personal jurisdiction was raised as a defense, right? >> personal jurisdiction was raised as an affirmative defense, but not raised in a motion to dismiss. >> and so your position is it was waived? >> yes. >> but it was not adjudicated. is there -- >> it was not adjudicated in this case. our position, it was waived when it was not raised in a rule 12 motion. >> what effects that commenced in the united states or that are closely related to the united states exist between what happened here and what happened in nigeria? >> the only connection between the events in nigeria and the united st

. >>> from eric schmidt's google to reed hoffman, "outfront" has taken you behind the scenes of somed's most innovative ideas and most successful entrepreneurs. what sets tonight's idea apart from those we usually profile is what you're looking at right there. that's the young man we had on the show. he was 11 years old when he came up with his idea. not only that, but his idea caught the attention of one of the most revolutionary companies on the planet, apple. earlier, i spoke with charlie hutchison and asked him how he did it. >> well, i've always really been interested in computers and so when i decided to make an app i was thinking about what i would want to do and i decided i wanted an easy way to be able to follow all of my friends' accounts on flickr and see their photos. so that was the basic idea and then it kind of evolved from there. now it has a geocoded photos and recent photos but that was the basic idea. >> so i have to be honest with you. a lot of people might say to me i have this idea, i really want to be able to follow my friend's pictures on flickr, they might ha

. >> the hollywood film awards will be held here on october 2 and dustin hoffman is getting a special honor. >> according to the hollywood reporter, receive the hollywood break through director achievement award. it is a comedy about an opera diva. brad pitt is the first gyp to ever serve as spokesman for channel number five. other stars include marilyn monroe and nicole kidman. edward lawrence for cbs news, los angeles. >> jo are up to date because you didn't know any of that. >> still ahead, dealing with life after football and facing a debilitating disease. >> but first, what you need to know now to save money or your heating bills this winter. is >>> a full plate for you in our consumer alert. including ways to save money on your heating bills, and some recalls you should know about on vehicles and vegetables. first, let's get you caught up on a new lettuce recall. this over possible salmonella. fresh express is pulling 18- ounce bags of its hearts of romaine. if it is still in your refrigerator, toss it out and fresh express will offer you a free refund. >>> ford is recalling 154

dustin hoffman is getting a special honor. according to the hollywood reporter, the two-time oscar winning actor will receive the achievement award. the first film he directed is a comedy about an opera diva and hits theaters in december. brad pitt is the first guy to serve as spokesman for chanel number five. >> wherever i go, you are. >> reporter: other stars that have pitched the perfume include marilyn monroe and nicole kidman. edward lawrence for cbs news, los angeles. >> wherever i go, you can be watching 9news now. >>> thank you for watching 9news now at 6:00 a.m. good morning. i'm andrea roane. >>> i'm jessica doyle in for mike hydeck. monika samtani will be back in a moment with your time timesaver traffic. >> good morning. >> howard bernstein is here. he has our weather first. >> he's got nothing on you. >> wherever i go. >> he probably doesn't even have an animal print shirt like that either. >>> weather wise we've got a good day because it's not going to rain today. here's a quick look at your day planner. temperat

authorities were called to the 2500 block of hoffman street just before 3:30 saturday afternoon.that's where they found the man from at least one gunshot wound. it's unclear whether the shooting was random or targeted. the victim's identity has not been released. baltimore county police are trying to figure out what brought a a car through a childcare center in woodlawn, the joy of learning center. investigates believe the woman swerved to avoid another car when she drove through the parks lot and swerved into the building. officials at the learning center say they will be closed on monday. no word on damages. we are back in a moment with a >> high pressure in control across the east today bringing nice weather to maryland and baltimore as we go throughout the rest of the sunday. the high pressure system will last through monday and we will feel the effects of a warm front now making its way across the plains, pushing east by tuesday, warming temperatures and bring a slight chance for rain. looking at the forecast today, not a cloud in the sky, sunshine with highs close to normal

today, it's dustin hoffman; he's a little guy. al pacino; he's a little guy. woody allen. the sex symbols. don't you understand it? don't you get it?" >> stahl: they thought, "this guy who can't speak english or had such a think accent." >> schwarzenegger: that's right, and "with a name like 'schwarzen-schnitzel,' what are you going to do with that name up there on the billboard?" i heard all that, but i heard of course... yes. >> stahl: in your own little head? >> schwarzenegger: when they said "no," i heard "yes, you can do it, arnold. you can do it." >> stahl: he likes defying the odds, which he does with steely discipline and drive. he worked hard to become an actor, finding out in his acting lessons that the self-control he'd mastered as a bodybuilder was getting in his way. >> schwarzenegger: the thing that can really make you lose is if you get emotionally unbalanced, and if i put everything that's happening emotionally on deep freeze. so i became an expert in living in denial. >> stahl: someone said about you that one key to your success was your resolute non-intro

cnbc's president mark hoffman said there are simply no words to convey the magnitude of this tragedy.at we can do is come together to express our unwavering support for a friend in need. >>> in britain, his daughter is roving with encouraging speed. the 15-year-old pakistani girl was shot in the head by the taliban for advocating girl's education. her father says his daughter will rise again to pursue her dreams and adds she is the daughter of everybody. doctors say it does not appear that she suffered significant brain damage. >>> in spain more than 5.7 million people, 1 out of every 4 adults, are now out of work. spain is in its second recession in three years. it's under pressure to did ask for outside help to help ease its debt. >>> and they're halfway there. the san francisco giants have won game two of the world series beating the detroit tigers 2-0 but there was a scary moment at the bottom of the second inning. jeff pfister takes a line drive right to the head. amazingly, pfister would stay in the game another five innings after that. game three tomorrow night in the motor cit

hoffman encouraged me to fulfill my potential. my yearbook, "one day you'll be the star of an award-winning show on nbc!" how did she know that? the more you know. >>> our allies just glazed over another lawsuit against bank of america. this time from the justice department, because of alleged mortgage fraud against fannie mae and freddie mac. why do we just yawn and move on these days? first of all, no one will be pursued. the buck did not stop in the institution, it stopped at the people running the institution at the time. but the only bills these guys will have to pay are the ones on their boat drink tab. second, the shareholders of bank of america are the ones who will ultimately have to pay the legal bill and the settlement sum. they're going to recruit some money for the stooges who bought these crumby money from bank of america, from the stooges who are stupid enough to be a shareholder. no big institution posts the disastrous shut downer of arthur anderson ever, since enron, ever gets shut down, as that costs too many job

did not like that movie who was portrayed by philip seymour hoffman.nd perhaps he did not relish it. and did you remember that argument. >> did he want to sue them for defamation of character? >> and when they get paid $ 3500 per hour. the forty- niners, the giants in candlestick is going to be good. and jim harbaugh looked a little bit annoyed. the giants offensive coordinator, kevin gore took a shot at the defensive end, just as smith. while he was a great player he cheats a little bit. while praising smith here is the controversial ". he does a good job of grabbing hold the offensive linemen and along the twists to take place. he never gets called with it so he gets away with murder. and obviously, that is a figure of speech for jim harbaugh came back with kevin therese of regis irrational statement regarding kevin-gilroy--out reache out regi outrageous and . and if you think that you have problems trying to work two jobs and pay fivwhen we come back, alicea is here. many people are ready. >> i am ready it is friday night. >> and we have something p

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joaquim phoenix one of my favorite actors anyway he and then philip seymour hoffman who is one of myhe movie, i thought sucked. cinematography beautiful, i just thought it was too long. >> i haven't built up the courage to see it yet. i heard it was difficult. >> it is long. >> bill: if you want toe see phenomenal acting, the two of them, yeah. so i don't think it will be a box office winner but -- >> up against frankenweany it may be hard. >> bill: that's right. this month is debate month, and it looks like all the talk is going to be about one debate or the next. and the spill over from the first debate. we're still in the middle of it right? >> big time. we saw today where the obama advisors are talking about how obama hasn't fully processed what happened in denver. he is not ready to laugh about it yet although he saw him laugh about it the other night. but he is still processing it, and they are trying to figure out what to do. we saw in the denver debate that romney has zingers and lines, and now we're hearing the same thing about biden. >> bill: they said romney was going to a

. >> reporter: father and son, jack and todd hoffman, say the economic downturn combined with the risingng for buried treasure. this isn't just a show for you. you need to strike it. >> this isn't a joke for us. this is really our lives. we really have to get gold, you know? >> reporter: their partner, dave, gave me a lesson behind the wheel of a huge loader, the kind of gear they use to move tons of earth, while sifting for riches. >> we're speaking to america. if you're on unemployment, take a chance. start a new business. >> reporter: the odds of hitting it big are not good. last year, they brought in 94 ounces. more than $50,000 worth. but nothing compared to their expenses. >> 1,000 ounces. >> reporter: for this season, todd has vowed to hit it big. 1,000 ounces of gold. you have 1,000 ounces. >> i can't say what i got. >> reporter: you had a good season. >> can't say. >> reporter: he couldn't budge, leaving us all to tune in to find out if the gold rush is real this year. for "good morning america," neal karlinsky, abc news, sandy, oregon. >> and the new season of "gold rush" premi