phil: dw's bureau chief max hofmann was there in strasberg.e asked him which where the issues member states wanted ursula von der leyen to tackle first? max: it really depends in which country you ask the people. as you mentioned, there is a new poll from the foundation. they say the most important topic for the germans is fighting climate change. in other countries like france and italy, it would be job security and cutting down on the cost of living. ursula von der leyen is going to tackle both or try to tackle both. those are the most important topics. one, the so-called european green deal she wants to have for the european union. the other one is digitalization, which is closely connected to job security, the future of employment in general. you have to keep in mind, today was not just about whether they are going to do the next five years, especially for ursula von der leyen and her commissioners. it was also an important day after all those optical -- obstacles that they got such a convincing vote and we got to talk to one of the most i

hofmann puts those goals into perspective they are very ambitious and i think we need to talk about 2 things in this respect the 1st the magnitude of the goals fighting climate change is probably the most ambitious goals in the history. in the history of humanity it touches upon every aspect of our life traffic what we eat just to give you 2 examples and that's why we. make sure that every piece of legislation that she crafts curbs emissions for example and fights against climate change that's one part and even even if everything went according to plan we still cannot be sure that she succeeds but now and here's the 2nd part the environment in which she will have to operate is difficult to say the least 1st of all the different leaders in the european union so the heads of state government are divided that's one problem if you think of hungry in germany a lot of opposition france and italy same thing and then you have this institution right here the european parliament which is more fragmented than ever since the last european elections this year so even if everything went according t

but hofmann and fellow archaeologist. and allister pike remain undeterred here in spain in the caves of dallas they're continuing to look for more proof of their results. that's why they're collecting limestone samples from the calc area center on the ceiling but it's not actually the line stone itself they're interested in they've discovered red ochre pigment underneath it. how did the pigment get there. it wouldn't occur in the cave naturally. it's clear. that assessment of it's been purposely applied and they've gone to a lot of trouble it's right in the leashes it's been sprayed splattered and spat on to the surface we don't know exactly but it's definitely the work of humans comes here. but who exactly they need clues that would determine the age of the pigment there's no way of testing the age of the pigment itself but what the scientists can do is test how old the limestone is that's covering it then they'd know the minimum age of the oak or underneath. the studies carried out by hoffman and his colleagues have she

well didio him subprocess bureau chief maps hofmann caught up with us in a on the line after the consummate consummate revoked in strasbourg france on the line that europe that you want to build with this new commission how is the rest of the world supposed to view it. well i think it's time that europe is stepping up to be assertive and confident we have to give large to the world and if you look at the topics of the european green deal or digitalisation the european voice is needed so i think it's time to position europe in a new format that's a concrete example the united states competitor a partner in these days our friends in the united states our partners i mean we have a strong foundation over decades and if you look at all the people who are having friendship and business contacts with our american friends this is what the transatlantic bonds of the transatlantic friendship is all about of course we do have issues but. as with good partners you have to discuss these issues and solve them what about china china is on a different page. it is moving more into a direction where we have

the ongoing unrest across the country as the tourism industry hog hotel reservations are down by hofmann media canceling trips off of the times he pulled out of posting just summits by respected to bring between $40.50 extra visitors to the town 3 in the next 2 months. joins us live now from santiago we're looking at those pictures or people protesting behind you will give us a sense of just how this momentum is continuing on the ground and also the tension between protesters and security. that's right stan this is now the 2nd week in a row that we're seeing protests taking place every single day for 2 weeks this is the 2 week mark largely peaceful protests if you can see these images on the screen now there are thousands if not tens of thousands of people gathered in. it's this an iconic part of the city where political movements have traditionally taken shape it began there was a it's actually been quite an eventful day there was a silent march that was sponsored by women earlier today commemorating the deaths of at least 20 demonstrators and more than a 1000 people that have injured t