"outfront" tonight, john avlon, michael waldman and hogan gidley. hogan, let me start with you.rak says the ads are not politically motivated. >> of course. >> of course i'm starting with you on this one. do you buy it? >> that's right. i wouldn't say that. people advertise for different reasons. obviously places like target and starbucks have been using homosexual couples in their advertising for years. there's really no departure from where a lot of these companies are going. we'll let the market decide. the big problem here is using taxpayer dollars to do it and to make a political statement. that's what's going to turn people on to this topic and make people angry and come out against it, i would imagine, from the right. i ma chick-fil-a's a private business. they can do what they want to do. amtrak obviously using taxpayer dollars here, that's going to be a serious issue for the right and i imagine amtrak will become somewhat of a rallying cry or a whipping boy, if you will, for our side and we'll come out and try to show people that we disagree with that type of advertisin

steve kornacki, host of "the cycle," hogan, and maria teresa kumar.want to start with you. >> of course. >> won't start out easy on you. it seems to me like this is an attempt, we've seen the polls. president obama's likability numbers are pretty high. we've seen governor romney taking a hit in the polls. a bit over the last few weeks in terms of his likability, so you know, it seems what we're really seeing here is an attempt to try to go after president obama's numbers. decrease, go after his character. get these likability numbers down. at a time when we're heading into the rnc convention, so what is it that governor romney is going to do to try to refute this image of him as somebody who's out of touch and try to get people as sally field would say, like him? >> right. well, you know, i think right now, i think one of mitt romney's predominant problems is just personal. where as i think obama's problem of likability at this point is is political. it's what he's been able to do in his office. those are the two differences between the two. as we mov

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hogan, let's dive in. late yesterday mitt romney joined the ranks of republicans calling on todd akin to lead this race. in staying akin is defying the head of the ticket, the leader of the party. if akin doesn't respect his leadership requests how bad will that look as the story persists? >> i don't know you can tether too much to mitt romney and his campaign. obviously akin isn't the smartest guy in the world. he said something that was reprehensible, demeaning, quite frankly ridiculous. so his decision making is subject to major questions at the very, very least at this point. >> if the leadership questions him, like mitt romney, reince priebus going on the air saying don't show up at the convention, karl rove's, crossroads, gps pulling all of its money out of missouri, isn't it kind of tough on akin? i mean, he's feeling pretty out in the cold on this all alone and if he's not going to get that direct message from mitt romney, who is? hogan? >> yes. well, you know, i don't know. that's the thing. this

so i'm hoping hogan's beef shop. now, they started out as a small company with a handful of people. they've been around ten years now. we're in 120 different countries. that's what america is all about. after hearing ryan, tonight i'm going to work. i'm actually going on live on spike tv from 8 to 10 and as soon as i get out of the ring, i'm turning the tv on because i want to hear romney. >> brian: it's a big opportunity. >> he's got a chance to win everybody over. >> brian: you used to be a president obama supporter? >> yes, i was. like i said, actions speak louder than words. and i've seen no action. >> steve: four years ago it was about hope and change. that was hopeful thing because people felt something -- we're adrift. well, a lot of people now say we did drift the wrong direction. >> and we can't take four more years of that. and at the end of the day, we need -- america needs a second chance. that's what this is all about. this country is ready, there is no reason we should be living with this economy. somet

. >> reporter: melvin hogan is holding a gift fry federal judge.hese are news articles he couldn't read the past four weeks while he acted as the jury foreman in the landmark case between apple and samsung that ended on friday. >> if you make a calculated risk to infringe, you take a chance on having to pay. that is what happened with samsung. >> reporter: hogan and the rest of the jury determined that samsung willfully violated seven of apple's patents when of his designing certain models of its smart phones and tablets. the outcome makes some customers hesitant about what smart phone to buy. >> i wouldn't have picked a samsung smart phone just because it is uncertain what might happen. >> reporter: most of the pat he wants that were infringed upon centered around the operating system, the way a person can scroll or pinch and expand a screen. this is causing a big problem for google since samsung sand many other manufacturers use google's platform. >> anybody else using that operating system can now be hit bit lawsuit. it will be fast tracked to p

. >> reporter: melvin hogan is holding a gift from a federal judge.les he could not read as he acted as a jury foreman that ended on friday. >> if you make a calculated risk to infringe you take a chance on having to pay. and that's what happened to samsung. >> reporter: hogan decided that samsung willfully violated seven of apple's patents. most of the patents centered around the operating system. rob anderley says this is creating a big problem for google. >> anybody else who's using that operating system can now be hit by the same lawsuit and it'll be fast track to penalty because they use this as a precedent. >> what does it mean for consumers. >> a lot more android products. >> reporter: executives helped produce the jury the company was guilty. the memos talked about samsung needed to get as close to apple's products as it could. most of the products were older products they will most likely be pulled off the shelves. reporting from san jose, janine de la vega. >>> trading in the asian market reflect the high stakes involved in the apple-samsung

in that event, hogan replied, merely tell them you are right for the raf and waved them off. lieutenant hogan wasn't alone. other trainers gave the writing 69th in equally unsettling council. one medical officer painted an unforgettable picture of what might happen to our fingers if we took off our clothes at 30,000 the. another urge them to constantly jans and swallow opportunity god to relieve pressure on the it drums. sends flatulence at a verified altitude could be painful and hazardous, he also prescribed avoiding gaseous foods such as beans, chip's and red cabbage into treebeard like the plague, we are in england for god's sake, the reporters protest to what also posted to each? [laughter] the recognition was a yorkshire native named bernard any home. the raf sergeant was an expert teacher having flown some four dozen combat missions. a fourth of them over germany. but his yorkshire accident was baffling at first, bigart wrote. he kept talking about positions until some of us began drawing outlines of the spherical dutch cheese with wings. later, develop user from to ai

hogan. always give the disclaimer you were my intern once upon a day many moons ago in dallas. >> i was. >> you don't get a free pass though on tv. so walk me through this. on romney's plan, he is pretty short on the specifics when it comes to medicare. but not so much for paul ryan. he's very specific and he often quotes that $716 billion figure. saying yeah, obama people are going to take that out of medicare. it sounds hypocritical when he uses that same kind of figure for his own plan. why isn't it? >> well, because he takes that money and puts it back into medicare whereas barack obama took that money out of medicare and put it directly into obama care. now this issue's going to play out for a very long time and it's going to be nasty and ugly and these numbers are going to be batted around a million times as you well know. i think republicans can actually win onhis issue. right now, we kind of have somewhat of a problem in my opinion. that is the fact that paul ryan is out there defend

hogan, start with you and talk about isaac. it's not poised to hit tampa but possibly new orleans on the seven-year anniversary of katrina. will mitt romney be able to compete with the attention, the media attention, that may shift to new orleans? >> i'm sure he will be able to, but i mean look, our thoughts and prayers should go to the people of new orleans. they sure don't need another storm, much less a hurricane, so we're praying that thing stays just a tropical storm and all the levees hold, of course. that will obviously be news going into the rest of the week. it will be news actually at the democratic convention as well if it does hit new orleans and if it does cause some damage, i'm sure there will be reports coming out of there. this is part of the deal having conventions during hurricane season. we were actually in the path of a hurricane this time, but last time we were in minnesota and we still had problems with a hurricane. we still had to focus on the hurricane. so there are lots of things out there right now tha

hogan says the smoking gun appeared when samsung ignored warnings from google executives that patent laws were being broken. >> and they demanded that samsung make a change to their software and hardware and in looking at what followed after that, we saw evidence that samsung chose not to pass that information down in fact among themselves saying we choose to ignore this. >> hogan happens to know a few things about high-tech patents he's an electrical engineer and has again through the process of having his own ideas patented. >>> get ready for exciting announcements, abc7 news and several other sources are reporting upcoming announcement of iphone 5 on september 12th. there are reports apple will reveal ipad mini sometime in okay. competitors are snaking smaller inch versions of the tablet. analysts say apple has to introduce a smaller, cheaper ipad if it wants to stay competitive. >>> time for a look at our forecast tropical storm isaac down two -- downgraded to a one? >> spoeb a one it could ram up to two before it hits landfall. over new orleans it could be a one, minimal. good n

percy mack and elizabeth hogan.you very much for being here. >> thank you. >> percy, you are a bowler. >> yes, i am. >> how long have you been involved with the maryland senior olympics? >> since 1986. >> so you have been bowling 50 years. >> 50 years now. >> tell me what you have won. >> i have won the first senior olympics in st. louis in 1987. i came in second place in syracuse, new york in 1991 with a gentlemen from florida in the doubles. then i had the opportunity to win in san jose, california in 2009. >> must be exciting to compete in other cities. >> yes, it is. but maryland is the best. it is coming and we are mid august through september 30th. if anybody wants to get involved with the maryland senior olympics go to maryland senior olympics.org. elizabeth, let's hear your story. you are a swimmer. >> i started swimming after an auto accident in 2005. it is the best therapy. it brought me back. i used to compete when i was young. i got the bug to go again. people on my team were involved in the maryland sen

. >> hogan, the obama campaign has been referring to the ryan budget as the ryan/romney budget for months now. romney trying to put some light between him and the ryan budget. highlights for everybody out there, the ryan plan would change medicare. it would essentially be a voucher program, affecting people under the age of 58 years old. it promotes cuts to medicare, food stamps, and transit infrastructure. listen to this on "60 minutes" last night. >> there's no question that your campaign has been trying to make this a referendum on barack obama. now some people are saying you are making it a referendum on paul ryan's budget plan. >> well, i have my budget plan, as you know, that i've put out. and that's the budget plan that we're going to run on. >> all right. so he's got his budget plan that they are going to run on. he distances himself, hogan, from his own legislative background as governor, the one thing he got elected for. and now he's trying to discount the one thing that paul ryan is known for? how is this a marriage made in heaven? >> well, first of all, i just want to say mitt

. >> hello, commissioners, my name is babette hogan, i'm a eighth generation san franciscan and in 12 years i have seen a lot of ross' work. when i first moved to that district, i was a little afraid of my neighborhood. but that was quickly overcome in part by the great work that ross did on the streets in my hood. so i am very appreciative of his work. i would like to also speak to you as a media professional, a media professional who not at all been falsely arrested recently in another state where conditions between journalists and the sheriff's department is not quite so easy. i would like to commend the relationship that our police officers hold with the citizens of san francisco. we have a fabulous, fabulous county and i'm very proud of it. i do not believe that our media has properly represented what has ghon on and for that i am ashamed of our media. our first amendment rights are insulted when paid advocates can come and make their arguments for a national case using alp case that is complete taken out of context and out of reality for political gain. i ask that you consider t

hogan will be one of my guests on press here after "meet the press" on sunday morning. in the meantime, this morning at 7:00, ben bernanke will speak in wyoming, may hint about new fed action. we turn to kayla. good morning. >> good morning, scott. futures in the stock market are higher ahead of that speech and that's after stocks fell on thursday. the dow has lost its gains for august and the nasdaq had its worst day 18 month on jitters over europe and ahead of that key speech this morning. ben bernanke is expected to acknowledge but may not offer more clues ahead of the fed's next meeting in a few weeks. manufacturing, consumer sentiment and factory orders today. the dow dropping 106 to 13,000 t nasdaq to 3048. and mortgage rates have pulled back, halting the gradual rise seen the past month. the average rate on a 30 year fixed is 3.59% down from 3.66% the previous week. the drop mirrors the decline in treasury yields. rates also moved lower despite more news showing improvement in the housing market as home prices rose this spring, the first positive annual growth in

mark lamont hill's right and hogan's right to the extent these are specific numbers put forward and guessyan plan and the obama plan, both would reduce these payments by $716 billion over ten years. this isn't raiding medicare. it's two different versions on how to save the system. >> can you repeat that? both of these plans would reduce medicare by $716 billion over ten years? >> right, spending. >> okay. >> so this is very important, right. this isn't coming out of beneficiaries. this is payments to insurers and doctors and hospitals. >> and the waste and fraud -- >> and the waste and fraud and abuse. p ares traditionally get giddy over the subject of saving taxpayer money and getting increased efficiency. so this is where the politics of medicare scare and pull back the curtain. instead of having a great debate as a nation about two different paths to reform medicare, instead we get politics of mediscare. it's hypocritical on the republican's side. >> i got to wrap it up. but you know what, when you said this is convoluted and complex, you are right. we need an hour or three to actuall

the united states army corp of engineers is test the water at hogan lake. . >> and welcome back. live storm tracker 2 picking out thunderstorm activity up around lake tahoe. this is the same type moisture that will come near the bay area late tonight and early tomorrow. thunderstorm that are moving to the north right now but truckee and tahoe many, up on 80 as well. donor summit. this moisture unstable air headed our way into late tonight. early tomorrow morning. these are the highs from today. official recorded highs. highs tomorrow are about the same. maybe a little cooler in someplaces, more child alludes, not of monsoon moisture with just tropical air further north. look at the activity on the west slope. problem is this all this will creep up overnight into tomorrow morning. some -- of course this time of year, very dangerous. we are watching it closely. we are final right now. we can't dismiss it. monsoon moisture. slight chance of a thunderstorm late tonight. early tomorrow morning,ly be back tonight at ten with the latest model but right now -- late tonight. 12:00. 3:00 a

open that we were talking about earlier, ben hogan hit 34 consecutive greens in regulation and then spun it back off that 17th green into the water and lost the u.s. open and never really contended again. >> what is weaver's situation now? >> he is only six yards or so from where he drove the ball this morning. the good news this time is a lie. i don't think it's good enough to try to knock the ball on this green. probably a good thing. >> yeah. he really has a decision to make is this young man right here. 230 to the front edge. 250 to the hole. >> with this altitude, it's about 10% less. so that is about 200 yards to the front of the green. this looks like a really short club, roger. >> i think that's a good call. i just don't see how you can stop the ball on this green. >> this is the way i played the hole earlier this morning. he laid up well back just like he has right now to give himself a longer shot to where he could put some spin on it. and actually he played a very nice shot within about six or seven feet of the hole. >> and then watch that young man knock it in the water. >> t

open that we were talking about earlier, ben hogan hit 34 consecutive greens in regulation and then spun it back off that 17th green into the water and lost the u.s. open and never really contended again. >> what is weaver's situation now? >> he is only six yards or so from where he drove the ball this morning. the good news this time is a lie. i don't think it's good enough to try to knock the ball on this green. probably a good thing. >> yeah. he really has a decision to make is this young man right here. 230 to the front edge. 250 to the hole. >> with this altitude, it's about 10% less. so that is about 200 yards to the front of the green. this looks like a really short club, roger. >> i think that's a good call. i just don't see how you can stop the ball on this green. >> this is the way i played the hole earlier this morning. he laid up well back just like he has right now to give himself a longer shot to where he could put some spin on it. and actually he played a very nice shot within about six or seven feet of the hole. >> and then watch that young man knock it in the water. >> t

hogan will be one of my guests this week on "press here."hat's sunday morning after "meet the press." back to you. >> do not want to miss scott's show. thank you. >>> isaac may have passed, but the storm is still causing concern. louisiana state officials fear new floods and hundreds of thousands could spend days without power. nbc's danielle lee is in new orleans with the latest efforts on this recovery. >> reporter: people in louisiana and mississippi are still trudging through streets that look more like rivers. >> they're scared. you know, they're leaving their homes, don't know if they'll have to home to go back to. >> reporter: police are hoping the floodwaters drain by night so crews can repair the damage. >> still at least three to four feet deep in the roadway. downed power lines and trees. >> reporter: they're waiting for officials to intentionally breach the dam. it's under pressure from the storm. >> most important thing is protecting people's lives a and property. >> reporter: new orleans engineers said the improved levees did t

moscow judge set to deliver a verdict in their trial the trio face up to three years behind bars on hogan is in charges for their conover performance and russia's main cathedral artist peter oliver is outside the court. going to appear so what can we expect at the court today. well already we're seeing journalists and t.v. crews getting set so outside of the courtroom here in central moscow ahead of what's going to be the final day of a trial which is gripped headlines here in russia and around the world the three women from the punk rock collective pussy riot faced three years in jail each for their performance of what they called a punk rock and russia's main cathedral in which they called on the mary to rid russia over blood to me it will. later on friday the judge will deliver a verdict and could pass sentence later on in the day now looking back at the background of this case which is split opinion so widely is my colleague. it was a prayer directed at virgin mary but it was heard all around the world to see why its performance of the christ the savior cathedral outraged some invigor