you know, you were sitting in the new york public library which looks like hogwarts the way you feel like a library should look, burnished wood with dark caverns and dusty tomes. it felt rich with history and we are being given boxes, many of which of the folks simply had not seen yet because some of the papers were only recently released to the public. we just happen to be lucky to be there ahead of some of the folks. reaching inside and here little some allen ginsberg, letters from john lennon, letters -- >> cia documents, fbi documents, which by the way not to interrupt but i will say this. when we first began working on this book we file our foia request, freedom of information act request with the fbi to get the papers, the files. it's four years later now we cannot not gotten those papers from the government. but tim did manage to get the string is a lifetime so good chunk of those are in his archives. thankfully we had that as a resource but that tells you how difficult those things can be to get. >> the survival of his archives is almost a documentary and a story unto itself.