people who worked for holbrook, who are close to him say that, you know, if holbrook had been alive then he would have picked up the phone and called a few people in pakistan and they believed within 48 hours, you know, davis would have been rltsed and put on a jet and taken out of the country. >> rose: what kind of connections did he have to enable him to do that? >> he had everybodies's number on the phone he would call up president sfvment ardari and the head of the pakistan military, but his rolodex extended from the region to new york, to elites in washington, and he managed to triangulate and deal with all of those people. >> rose: before i leave you i want to talk about this because it is central to your book, what is the la america. >> it is a remarkable story, carlie that actually begins with the holocaust, in the late 30s, jewish fur traders who were able to flee europe, many of them resettled here in new york and they needed a new source for petals to make coats and hats, they turned to afghanistan for the fur of the newborn persian fat tail sheep and in the late 30s and early

people who worked for holbrook, who are close to him say that, you know, if holbrook had been alive then he would have picked up the phone and called a few people in pakistan and they believed within 48 hours, you know, davis would have been rltsed and put on a jet and taken out of the country. >> rose: what kind of connections did he have to enable him to do that? >> he had everybodies's number on the phone he would call up president sfvment ardari and the head of the pakistan military, but his rolodex extended from the region to new york, to elites in washington, and he managed to triangulate and deal with all of those people. >> rose: before i leave you i want to talk about this because it is central to your book, what is the la america. >> it is a remarkable story, carlie that actually begins with the holocaust, in the late 30s, jewish fur traders who were able to flee europe, many of them resettled here in new york and they needed a new source for petals to make coats and hats, they turned to afghanistan for the fur of the newborn persian fat tail sheep and in the late 30s and early

holbrooke, we need, we wish your husband speedy recovery, et cetera, et cetera. but because i had by then lived with richard for 17 years i knew not to waste a moment of time with a man that he was trying to negotiate with. so i said you know mr. president, for richard afghanistan is more than his latest post. he loves your country. he loves your people. and he's absolutely determined to find some kind of reconciliation. >> rose: and he thought he had found a way. >> he had. and at that point karzai, you know, maybe i just wanted to hear some thing different in his voice. i thought he went off script there and that there was genuine emotion and he said yes, we really need him back here. and then came the next call. >> rose: so there had been lots of tension between the two of them. >> of course who doesn't have tension with president karzai. but that's another conversation. but then came the call from the pakistani president who zardari who was a human being. he said kati, i told him he was overdoing it i said richard i marks friend, you have to stop flying to al

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the first is regarding the other force of nature ambassador richard holbrooke we lost in the relationship with general petraeus and him. that term has been used in different way but i tend to hear general petraeus more. the second question is how they find original petraeus and the last half question is among his many great strengths what are some of his actual weakness is? thanking. >> thanking. good questions. >> they ran president obama's one of his afghan reviews and he was working closely with holbrooke and petraeus and clinton and to simply answer your question he would say that petraeus was an devotee the team he was the fact a leader of the team it was important to have holbrooke. think of the knowledge and experience he had and the network that he had come so even holbrooke acknowledged that. the second question was the afghans. so, you know, the interesting thing to juxtapose is david petraeus's experience in iraq where they called him a weak king david coming and he gave himself that name. i don't know. he's very well respected in iraq. the name streets after him. i can't tell

but it's people like holbrooke, joe biden, the secretary of defense, george mitchell who was the middle east peace envoy, greg craig, i would call john kerry who is not in the administration but chairman of the senate foreign relations committee and certainly the administration's strongest supporters in congress, certainly a charter member of this vietnam generation. this does not mean, um, that all of the members of this administration are anti-war democrats. holbrooke in particular had repeatedly at each juncture where there was an anti-war candidate, he tended to be with the centrist and to denounce the anti-war candidate. that was true of mcgovern, it was true of obama. and so on. but more than any other generation these members of this it first generation have seen firsthand how the use of force can go disastrously wrong, and it's something they keep in find regularly. and this is a dominant, um, issue for the democrats right through til the persian gulf war of 1991. um, when the democrats predict -- inaccurately as it turns out -- that there are going to be tens oftous of casualti

you need the holbrooke. to be resilient in need this when you go on every day that you're doing it perfectly. you know exactly which going to do. you're obviously going to fall flat on your keister some base commander obviously going to make huge mistakes. the team has to be ready. it is the world according to mike tyson, the boxer. when reporters when asked tyson about the opponent's strategy. the opponents is there going to be viewed by doing this or by doing that to be. ♪ , everybody has a strategy into the get hit the face. [laughter] is the campaign's job to be ready so that when you're hit the face they know they have a bucket of water where they have a contingency plan. and also to prevent ambushes that you don't want and to help you decide what it's what, you can't go out there just acting like, i'm here to do is buy and knocked everybody down because that's a disaster. the team, first of all, has to understand the difference between the three campaigns. then the two most astonishingly difficult thin

thomas holbrooke at the university of milwaukee-wisconsin. see how your prediction turns out. >> great, thanks. jenna: we should ask him how much money is he willing to put on the line for that, as we get closer to the day. the president is praising the policies of former the president clinton as a successful model for a strong economy but how do the president's stack up with bill clinton's? jim angle will compare them up ahead for us. >>> did suspected gunman, james holmes call a reality tv star and drop hints about his alleged plan to open fire on a movie theater? hear from an mtv star, on his conversation with holmes, and the another possible bizarre twist in this tragedy. we have that ahead. cause they dt with food. switch to citracal maximum plus d. it's the only calcium supplement that can be taken with or without food. that's why my doctor recommends citracal maximum. it's all about absorption. jenna: the president aligning himself with former president clinton embracing the former president's record that led to solid economic growth.

i should say have the privilege of working with ambassador holbrooke, worked at the american university in afghanistan. he was so dedicated to making sure women are central to the peace process because he understood strategically if they were. >> you learned all that for me. >> there is always a woman behind a van like that. >> but what we learned in afghanistan, if you can imagine one of the most challenging places to economically empower women for many years been the taliban actually restricted growth from going to school and certainly there were no universities that expected win in. we were now at the university of women in afghanistan. we worked for 300 entrepreneurs. but one just struck a chord with us. there is a woman we work with, ranking a d. he was a company called kandahar treasures. she still goes to the most conservative provinces throughout the country. and women who cannot leave their homes gave her handicrafts commit beautiful scarves, jewelry, she sells them and returns the proceeds to these women. and a couple of years ago, when she first started working with us, she t

up next after high profile marriages to peter jennings and rich holbrooke, journalist katty martin isife story tells us on set when "morning joe" comes right back. bf [ male announcer ] if you stash tissues like a squirrel stashes nuts, you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec® liquid gels. nothing starts working faster than zyrtec® at relieving your allergy symptoms for 24 hours. zyrtec®. love the air. >>> the serve. >>> the soviets left in 9 and the united states turned it back on the region leaving our pakistani allies who had been supporting the mu janine with us, high and dry, afghanistan then fell into a civil war, and the pakistani supported taliban came in and that led directly to bin laden and led directly to where we are today. now we cannot repeat 1989 again because we will then -- al qaeda will come back, the whole region will go back into a crisis far worse. >> that was the late ambassador richard holbrooke on one of his many appearances on "morning joe." joining us now his widow and author of "paris a love story" kati marton. she writes if i have come to paris i

her new book is the story of her marriage and loss of ambassador richard holbrooke. i just read one of the preview reviews and it looks like a in another must read. i hope you will all go out and buy it. i don't think it is in the lobby because the publication date is two weeks hence but i know you will enjoy reading it. to is really a special account -- occasion to have this conversation here because eleanor roosevelt is the founder of the human rights movement globally. she went to the united nations as america's representative to the human rights initiative. in that conversation, she made specific reference to the rights of women and the need to secure the rights of women long before there was the robust conversation even in the united states that we now have. it was eleanor roosevelt who understood that human rights must begin in small places close to home. without meaning there, they have no meeting anywhere and she encouraged people around the world to engage in a conversation about advancing the rights of women long before it was fashionable. we will hear abou

here's a story from the "washington times" -- next, holbrook, new york, sal is a democrat. caller: he is not for the poor. he is only interested in the rich. the problem with obama is he has to be stronger. right now i don't think he's running the country. i think oil and gas companies are running the country. if the american people stick together they should say don't use certain gas stations and put the big corporations out of business, things would be better. food and everything would go down as a result. you cannot depend on the president to do everything all the time, because his hands are tied by big corporations. people need to stop using exxon gas. then you will see the gas start coming down and our economy and do better. host: do you think the republicans and democrats are talking about energy as you look for other platforms and what they believe in? caller: i hope so. romney said that he wants to open up their reserves. i lived in the door and they say there's plenty of oil and gas in pennsylvania. why are they not drilling? they say we have more gas in the u.s. t

i should say have the privilege of working with ambassador holbrooke, worked at the american university in afghanistan. he was so dedicated to making sure women are central to the peace process because he understood strategically if they were. >> you learned all that for me. >> there is always a woman behind a van like that. >> but what we learned in afghanistan, if you can imagine one of the most challenging places to economically empower women for many years been the taliban actually restricted growth from going to school and certainly there were no universities that expected win in. we were now at the university of women in afghanistan. we worked for 300 entrepreneurs. but one just struck a chord with us. there is a woman we work with, ranking a d. he was a company called kandahar treasures. she still goes to the most conservative provinces throughout the country. and women who cannot leave their homes gave her handicrafts commit beautiful scarves, jewelry, she sells them and returns the proceeds to these women. and a couple of years ago, when she first started working with us, she t

about to come out in the two weeks as the story of her marriage and the loss of ambassador richard holbrooke. i just one of those previews and it is another must read you blog build a put down. i hope you all go buy it. unfortunately, it is not in the body because the publication date is two weeks. hence i know you all enjoy reading it. it is a special occasion for me to have this conversation because eleanor roosevelt really has is the founder of the human rights movement. went to the united nations is america's representative to the human rights commission, wrote and in that conversation, and made specific reference to the rights of women and the need to secure the rights of women long before there was really the robust conversation, even in the united states we now have. it was eleanor roosevelt understood that human rights must begin in small places close to home without the been there, they have no meaning anywhere. she encouraged people all over the world to engage in a conversation about advancing the rights of women long before it was fashionable. but we are going to your about how t

you'll hear from one of the nobel peace prize winners and a widow of diplomat richard holbrooke and adviser to former president bush. this is about one hour and 15 minutes. [applause] >> good afternoon, we're glad to be here to talk about economics, finance, regulation, wall street and various other things financial over the next hour-to-hour and 15 minutes. so, hope you stay with us and enjoy it. let me start by introducing the panel. to my near left is ken miller, the president and ceo of ken miller capital who is one of the more prolific writers and best thinkers on wall street. he has also been, served successfully as vice chairman of merrill lynch capital markets and credit credit. credit suisse first boston. he served on a number of boys, viacom, kinder care learning and lowe's corporation. it is a long list. he is an active member of the council of foreign relations. board member on the committee of u.s. china relations. we'll ask him about china today which is one of his areas of expertise. in the middle here is cyrus amir-mokri, assistant secretary of financial institutions. a post

. >> several years ago, we embarked on something -- the holbrook doctrine. pakistan he is that whole approach to be very offensive. looking debt pakistan through the eyes of the afghanistan -- it is pretty offensive to the people in pakistan. we really do not have the relationship -- a long-term relationship. it is more of a transactional relationship. it has been that way for a long time. mr. olsen -- as we deal with a country that basically the military controls and elected leaders are not particularly effective -- how do we, as members of congress, it is really the american taxpayer foot in this bill -- footing this bill -- how do we leverage this transactional relationship, not one that is built on good will? how do we leverage the resources we have to call pakistan to act in ways we would like to see them act? >> thank you, senator. that is an excellent question. i think that we have to remember that our relationship with pakistan goes back quite a ways. the it goes back to the beginning of the pakistani state. for 65 years, we have had a relationship.