and that helps, but it really helps even more to get a holdfast on there. think we've got it there. so the line is overhanging the bench a little bit. yes. otherwise, the ripping's much harder. yeah, i would think. you'll rip into your bench. harder on your bench. and then you merely put the saw into the work, and you stand at the bench... how about it? very easy to control, and no bending over. man, oh, man. let me see the grip on that thing. so you've got one hand on top. and the other one through the hole, like this. and you rip away from you. yes, always rip with the teeth-- in this configuration, with the teeth pointing away from the operator. oh, man. all right. so that's--i've done it the american way. and here's the british way. and you say there's... there's the wrong way and the right way. what's your next way? the french way. oh, good. ha ha ha! now, the french way-- we'll use your barrel for this. pretend it's filled with nice french wine. excellent. and we'll use my saw bench. you need this? all right. and if you could fetch my ripsaw there, th