that's the product of the work here on the coast guard cutter "holly hock."that that refreezes and when it refreezes, it's thicker than it was before. basically about two feet thick and so they have to keep on going back and forth and essentially plowing out this path. let's give you a sense of what our mission is today. so, we started out about 8:00 this morning from port huron in michigan, about the southern tip of lake huron, we're heading down the st. clair river to lake st. clair and basically continuing to clear out this path ultimately this pathway leads into lake erie. lake st. clair, the detroit river and then lake erie, a very key passageway. and as far as ice goes in wintertime, it really doesn't get a whole lot worse than this. >> this is my third winter up there. there is by far the worst i've seen talking to some of the locals, this is the worst winter they've seen in their lifetime. beyond that, i don't know the numbers, but from our perspective as well, our mission, it has, you know -- it has placed a, you know, we're working longer hours, usi