they said, "holly hughes is a lesbian, and her work is very heavily of that genre." and, you know, i can't really disagree with that. i mean, i am a lesbian. my work is about that. i just didn't realize it was a genre, and maybe i want my own category of funding, like landscape painting or macrame plant hangers or something like that. but it was really about targeted homophobia, and--although, as i say that, i feel like, "i hope jesse helms would not like my work." then i'd really have to commit suicide. it is controversial, and it is provocative, and i think that should have a place in a country that pretends to be a democracy. even at the time of the controversy, homoerotic work was among the work banned, right? that language was used? yes. in '89, i believe, there was a statute passed that said the n.e.a. couldn't fund work that could be considered obscene, and they gave you, like, a checklist in case you didn't know what that meant, and homoeroticism was on the checklist. so they went after artists in this medium that were openly gay. when you put together this b

holly hughes here with us. first of all, holly, this is disturbing on so many levels. right. >> it's very disturbing. >> of course it is. and this is one of those cases that illustrates for us the fine line between abuse and discipline. and this little girl is saying he used it as a form of discipline, but if what she is alleging happened, happened, it's straight-up abuse and that's why he's charged with multiple felonies, he and his wife. >> that is remarkable, actually, that his wife simply stood by and watched this happen. >> right. >> so what about her? she's an accomplice, essentially? >> yes. basically, it's what we call party to a crime. and the whole concept is real easy. in for a penny, in for a pound. so if you're going to stand around and you're going to watch this occur and you're going to sort of encourage it by not interrupting it, yes, she's charged with the exact same thing he is, because she also has a duty to that child, to protect and safeguard. >> so what's amazing, an 11-year-old girl, she's 11 years old, she has a 5-year-old sister. so where are t

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criminal defense attorney holly hughes joins me now. really an odd week hasn't it? first the defense wanted a mistrial. then they said maybe not. and other things are being introduced at this point. >> absolutely. they withdrew that request for a mistrial which tells me they're pretty happy about the way things are going and they want this particular jury, the jury that's already seated and in the box to make a decision because they're hoping for an acquittal in this case. they don't want a do over. >> how does it look that they put that out there? >> well, typically a motion for a mistrial is made outside the presence of the jury. the jury doesn't really know what's going on because this way if the judge denies the mistrial or grants the mistrial the jury doesn't find out about it until after the fact because you don't want them to know there is a possible hiccup in the road here until a decision has been made. >> okay. so hearsay is playing a huge role in this case. tell me what it is and second why is it such a big deal? >> it is. th

avery freeman in los angeles, holly hughes in atlanta. i mean talk about insult to injury, guys. guy with a crime. avery, what is the legal punishment for giving your hand to an alligator? >> well, that isn't what it is, rob. i mean -- the law is enticing an alligator which is unique to the everglades. he worked for captain doug. they're going to give him a nickname. it won't be lefty. the difficulty here is that not only did he suffer the loss of his hand, he's going to be facing 60 days in jail, $500 fine because he enticed an alligator. so whether you work for captain doug or captain hook, i think the good idea is not to entice alligators. this is what happens. he's facing a crime even though he suffered this terrible, terrible injury. >> holly? is this fair? i suspect there's a big problem with this in florida? people feeding gators. is this a fair law? why wouldn't the judge give him a break? >> it is fair. the judge might give him a break. you heard the expression, you know, be careful what you do. it may come back to bite you. well, this case is a visual aid for that, rob.

holly hughes is here.criminal defense attorney and pretty soon your neighbors could have drones and probably if you want to check up on the other half you can have your own drone doon that. should we be worried about privacy here? >> yes and no. it's like any other technology that's developed. people can use it for a bad purpose just like a gun, you know. a gun is a good thing if a home owner is protecting themselves. somebody can turn around and use it in a bad manner. the drones don't collect as much information as people seem to think. and you have to have a guaranteed right before the law can say somebody violated that right. currently, we as u.s. citizens, just ordinary people, you and i, right? we don't have a right of privacy in the air space above our home. now, people can't come -- can come around our house but not in the air. >> isn't there an expectation of privacy in your own home, your own yard? >> yeah. it's an old fashioned term in the law called the curtilege. that means the space surroundi

holly from virginia. in the movie, "the breakfast club," where do the five students serve detention. basement, cafeteria, library or the classroom? >> the library. >> yes indeed! >> obviously, famous brat pack movie, aly sheedy, molly ringwald. >> john hughes win money or aunt kathie's cd? >> aunt kathie's cd. >> love him! >> change tatum and jonah hill returned to school as undercover cops in a movie that was a remake of 1980s tv show? "dukes of hazzard," saved by the bell, 21 jump street or the a-team? >> a-team. >> he got what he wanted. his wish came true. all right. so the correct answer there, "21 jump street." >> i love that you're asking an 8-year-old about the '80s. you didn't get it right. >>> it's "21 jump street." a mean show. hit movie. this is a story that propelled him back into the a-list. he was with jonah hill and they play played undercover, old, old men who went under cover as high school students and a remake of johnny depp. >> from binghamton, new york, from "greece to" ♪ ♪ [ laughter ] >> i don't know. >> again, we say -- >> i have no clue. >> you know what, but you do have this fabulous cd. [ buzzer ]. >> 14 songs on there, you're going to just love. >> here are the lyrics. i didn't know either. everyone else in the