had baby benjamin in november 2010 or actress geena davis, who had twins in 2004 at age 47, and holly huntering the process of childbirth and of raising kids look too easy? joining me again elizabeth gregory and bonnie steinbock. professor steinbock, let me begin with you. are celebrities creating an unrealistic impression of how easy all of this is? - no. i mean, i can't imagine that that's really driving very much. it's sort of something to hold on to, but i think the celebrities are reflecting the kind of trend that professor gregory was talking about. look, kids today are growing up later. everybody's saying that 30 is the new 20. you know, where maybe our parents' generation was getting married at 20 and 22 and starting their own families, it's now pushed back and people are getting married a little bit later having children a little bit later. i think the celebrity part is really a tiny-- if it has any impact whatsoever. and, hopefully, if it does-- if there's somebody who is sort of not very informed and goes to a doctor and says, "well, i just saw that geena davis had twins. i don't