what about -- there was one specific one that there was a technician, holly o'donnell, she was describingharvesting the brain of a late-term boy, she said she wasn't sure if the baby was alive since its heart was still beating and she harvested the brain by cutting his head open starting with the chin, do recall that. >> that woman does not work for planned parenthood so i cannot speak to anything she said. i'm not responsible for her. >> do you deny that her description of what happened is something that does occur in planned parenthood clinics? >> there is nothing she has ever described that i could attest to has ever happened. >> so you can categorically testify to that? >> categorically testify to what? i want to be very careful. >> that what she described -- >> well, i don't remember that particular video of holly o'donnell but i will tell you she has never worked at planned parenthood -- >> she was a technician for stem express but i think it was something that was very, very troubling to sit there and read that or watch that video. let me ask you this. do you admit that planned par

what about -- there was one specific one that there was a technician, holly o'donnell, she was describing harvesting the brain of a late-term boy, she said she wasn't sure if the baby was alive since its heart was still beating and she harvest it had brain by cutting his head open starting with the chin, do recall that. >> that woman does not work for planned parenthood so i cannot speak to anything she said. i'm not responsible for her. >> do you deny that her description of what happened is something that does occur in planned parenthood clinics? >> there is nothing she has ever described that i could attest to has ever happened. >> so you can categorically testify to that? >> categorically testify to what? i want to be very careful. >> that what she described -- >> well, i don't remember that particular video of holly o'donnell but i will tell you she has never worked at planned parenthood -- >> she was a technician for stem express but i think it was something that was very, very troubling to sit there and read that or watch that video. let me ask you this. do you admit that planned p

. >> but that's not -- >> also in that video, daleiden introduces 24-year-old holly o'donnell as stemexpressany that guys tissue from planned parenthood. >> i thought i was just going to be drawing blood, not procuring tissue from aborted fetuses. >> she describes her shock as what she says she saw there. >> the moment i took the tweezers, i put them in the dish, i remember grabbing a leg, and i said this is a leg, and the moment i picked it up, i could just feel, like, death and pain. never felt that before like shoot up through my body. and i started to -- i blacked out. >> when daleiden created his front company, biomax procurement service, it was in the mold of stemexpress. the video captures biomax operatives at a planned parenthood lab hoping to duplicate the experience of stem express representatives. >> that's the heart. >> i think so, right? >> yeah. >> here is the heart. >> my fingers will smush it if i try to pick it up. >> a heart over there. >> would you call that intact? >> these are intact kidneys, yes. if somebody needed. >> if i looked at that, i would be like, that's good t

one woman, holly o'donnell, says, and i quote her, she gave me the scissors and told me i had to cut down the middle of the face. i can't even describe what that feels like, she says. i suspect that if the president watches at least one of the videos and my colleagues on the other side, it would at least demand real answers concerns kerning planned parenthood's inhumane behavior and violence that's directed at the least of these. of course, sir come standings and because of immature and dependent -- mr. pitts: madam chair, i yield the gentleman an additional two minutes. mr. smith: thank you. mention about margaret sanger. i read one of her books. she talks about the cruelty of charity of caring for innocent women who carry babies to term that you should not give them help, that charity is cruel. she was a racist. read her books. read her birth control review. i went to the library of congress, got many copies of it and read through it. she had many programs that talked about focusing on blacks and others for extermination. just read her books. and, again, "the pivot of civilization"

. >> o'donnell: all right, jericka, thank you so much. tonight, holly williams has a remarkable story of a migrant family's quest for a new life in europe. they are among many thousands who have attempted the long and dangerous trip by land and by sea. today, their voyage nearly ended in tragedy when they were sabotaged by boats from greece. >> reporter: just off the turkish coast this morning, 40 syrians were crammed on a rubber dinghy. desperate to reach europe. on board was tanya ibrahim, a high school art teacher from aleppo. jan, and her husband, abdeqaden, who filmed their dangerous journey. we first met them in turkey before they set out. they fled syria two years ago after their home was bombed. but they told us there's no regular work for syrians in turkey, so they borrowed $2,000 to pay a smuggler. do you know how to swim? >> no. >> no. >> reporter: why have you decided to take such a big risk? "we can't live in syria, and we can't live here," tanya told us. "for the safeco our son, we need to leave." the family gave us permission to follow th

what about -- there was one specific one that there was a technician, holly o'donnell, she was describingharvesting the brain of a late-term boy, she said she wasn't sure if the baby was alive since its heart was still beating and she harvest it had brain by cutting his head open starting with the chin, do recall that. >> that woman does not work for planned parenthood so i cannot speak to anything she said. i'm not responsible for her. >> do you deny that her description of what happened is something that does occur in planned parenthood clinics? >> there is nothing she has ever described that i could attest to has ever happened. >> so you can categorically testify to that? >> categorically testify to what? i want to be very careful. >> that what she described -- >> well, i don't remember that particular video of holly o'donnell but i will tell you she has never worked at planned parenthood -- >> she was a technician for stem express but i think it was something that was very, very troubling to sit there and read that or watch that video. let me ask you this. do you admit that planned pa

. >> o'donnell: holly, incredible reporting.o we know, was it the greek coast guard that interfered? >> reporter: well, norah, we contacted the greek coast guard, and they didn't admit that their men did this, but they wouldn't deny it, either. we've been told, though, of several similar incidents in which the greek coast guard allegedly sabotaged refugees' boats to prevent them from reaching europe and endangering the refugees' lives in doing so. >> o'donnell: this will have big implications. holly williams on the turkish coast. thank you, holly. president obama reached a milestone today. he's down to his final 500 days in office. hillary clinton, who hopes to succeed him, has another number to worry about. a new poll of democratic voters shows her support has fallen ten points in the past month to 42%. vice president joe biden, who is not even in the race, is up ten points, followed closely by senator bernie sanders. nancy cordes is in salem, new hampshire. nancy, good evening. >> reporter: good evening, norah. ked those numbe

one woman, holly o'donnell, says, and i quote her, she gave me the scissors and told me i had to cut down the middle of the face. i can't even describe what that feels like, she says. i suspect that if the president watches at least one of the videos and my colleagues on the other side, it would at least demand real answers concerns kerning planned parenthood's inhumane behavior and violence that's directed at the least of these. course, sir come mr. pitts: madam chair, i yield the gentleman an additional two minutes. mr. smith: thank you. mention about margaret sanger. i read one of her books. she talks about the cruelty of charity of caring for innocent women who carry babies to term that you should not give them help, that charity is cruel. she was a racist.read her birth. i went to the library of congress, got many copies of it and read through it. she had many programs that talked about focusing on blacks and others for extermination. just read her books. and, again, "the pivot of civilization" is one of the worst. let me also say to my friends, they talk about how they -- video

footage of a born alive infant from a late term abortion actually moving in a specimen pan while holly o'donnellt of the exactly same -- >> so you think it's a different image than the one that was pointed out -- >> if you're -- >> okay. >> if you're showing the image of the walter frets right now that is not the image. >> i don't know now the names. i don't own the material the way you do. i -- because the mother says. you know what i'm talking right? there was a mother who -- >> yeah. >> [ inaudible ]. >> and you used that in the video right? >> yeah i've spoken with lexi frets, the mother. and -- >> what [inaudible]. >> used to illustrate exactly the kind of late second trimester baby, fetus, that we're talking about in these cases of organ harvesting. >> if you are talking about organ harvesting and the abortions and how terrible, why would you use a stillborn fetus, which is not a function of an abortion? >> do you think the fetuses are different somehow? it is the same gestational age. it is the same baby whether it's born dead or alive. >> it is also -- >> that is the same kind of infant.