he will most likely not leave holman until his 30-year sentence is complete. >> i have two daughters,nd i look at it from that perspective. do i want these people around my family? no. but there again, some day, in this case robert tedder is going to walk out this door free. so you have to look at it from that side. he's going to go free. it may not be on parole, but he's going to eos his sentence in 2014, and he's coming out. and society is going to have to accept that. >> see you later. >>> coming up -- >> i'm making a birdhouse right now. >> two inmates seek a creative respite from hell. >> art is my sanity and my salvation. i mean that's what keeps me stable. ace everything in it. liberty did what? liberty mutual paid to replace all of our property that was damaged. and we didn't have to touch our savings. yeah, our insurance won't do that. well, there goes my boat. you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™. liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance. and it's also a story mail aabout people and while we make more e-commerce deliveries to homes than anyone e

night. >> by all appearances, tommy "cheese curl" tunstall, serving life for robbery, was one of holman'st popular inmates. >> tommy was an interesting inmate to interview, actually, because he seemed very calm and confident. quietly confident. >> bring your ass on. [ bleep ]. >> more often than not, when we would start interviewing tommy, inmates would start yelling things at him. >> you've got to tell me what the deal is with you. everybody -- you could run for president in here. >> i guess i get along with everybody. >> but tunstall chooses to spend much of his time with just one man, kenyatta mcmillen, who is serving life without parole for murder. >> i love cheese because he always been there for me, no matter what, and he ain't never changed or turned his back on me on nothing. >> mcmillen and tunstall had been friends for about three years when we met them at holman. >> it done got to the point to where it's like if i'm thinking about something, before i can get it out, he can say it. and it's vice versa. >> do you identify as gay? >> do me -- do i do? yes. >> you're gay? >> yes. >

to have the stories of millenials living at holman the these people and are excluded from the possibility of homeownershipdera and cuts across the entire age group and in the 1920's contemporaries were famously called a lost generation in they could be a lost generation for hall motorship excluded from the american dream punished as the unintended byproduct of the crisis of 2008 we must be mindful of the situation you don't want to exclude generation of buyers for the generations to come of meto must do more to find that a prudent pathway for those millenials for the investors and lenders in the housing market interestingly enough at the beginning of the nation and people came here from all areas of the world and they worked extremely hard not eight hours a day not five days a week or six or seven days a week for a minimum-wage but for their children and their grandchildren. it was always thinking about the next generation and something we have to start doing again. we offer step toward home ownership is the purchase of a condominium as a step on the home ownership latter we know fha has

>> since our last visit to holman, warden culliver has left the prison.e was promoted to associate commissioner with the alabama department of corrections. but when we traveled to the hillsborough county jail in tampa, florida, we met sergeant sarah herman, who seemed to be cast from the same mold. >> you tearing up my property? one-way trip to charlie, dude, and you're never coming out. quiet. stop talking. you don't tell her what to do. close that new york mouth for a minute. jackson, i don't forget something. don't waste my time. we got time enough to find out how long you been here, okay? don't underestimate miss herman. >> like warden culliver, sergeant herman was known for being both tough, and compassionate. >> have you been drinking any water? come and get a cup and start drinking some water for me, okay? sometimes when you're sick like that and you're not hydrated, it messes with your mind. >> when sergeant herman would walk into a unit, it was almost as if, you know, a sergeant in the army or something was walking into a barracks. people really,

. >> that response from acting ice director, thomas holman before congress this week, sparking a newate on arrests by ice officers. talk show host, gina loudon and julie alvin. julie, you say this young man should stay. make your case. >> the issue with this is, i'm not sure why we're devoting resources to deporting people like this young man. he came here while he was 16. he was law-abiding. he wanted to be an auto mechanic. donald trump ran on this rhetoric to get rid of rapists and murders. i don't understand how deporting this young law-abiding man who is a couple ways from his graduation is improving immigration. >> stuart: law-abiding, he had a deportation order, an immigration hearing that he lost and the judge said get out of here. so gina, you make the opposite case. this young man should go. go ahead. make that case. >> i mean, by her logic, honestly, why have immigration laws at all? really isn't that the question we're asking? we have immigration laws like every other country in the entire world for the simple fact that otherwise we -- with unfetterred immigration, we're

we also heard from an expert in these matters, craig holman, a public citizen.vice president has a couple of clear choices for getting the money he's going to need to pay for his expensive lawyer. he could start a legal defense fund the way bill clinton did, or he could ask permission from the fec to use trump/pence campaign money. it may be worth noting here that the president not only funded much of his campaign last year, though not to the extent he promised, he also re-upped the campaign on inauguration day. donald j. trump for president inc. is open for business. the president's re-election campaign already exists, and that campaign did announce a new fund-raiser this afternoon at the president's own trump hotel in d.c. that's set for wednesday, a week from tonight, a high-dollar donor fund-raiser. if anybody happens to notice a tip jar at that fund-raiser for mike pence's legal fees, please let us know. you don't let anything keep you sidelined. that's why you drink ensure. with 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for the strength and energy t

i'm joined by nathan holman, one of the architects of the paris accord and the obama administration, you watched that, what did you make of it? trump made a case about fairness and in that sense i thought it was relative to the facts of what the paris agreement actually is. i thought it was borderline delusional and apocalyptic. those are strong words, back them up. he sketched a vision of what the paris accord is asa kind vision of what the paris accord is as a kind of international imposition of the united states put it was negotiated as something the united states could argue we wanted to do on our own terms. the president fundamentally does not agree with those negotiation terms? one thing interesting about his vision and he is conflating two important things about paris, one of the structure of the international agreement and wonders will we propose to country. for him they are one and the same and he is certainly not happy with the targets put forth, those targets are negotiable within our country, that is not paris fault. he said that the united states are being hurt by the pa