no act of congress could ever make the atrocities of the holocaust or bring justice to its six million victims. but ending the flow of the payments to those human rights violators would sure be a step in the right direction. i thank the gentleman from texas for his good work on this issue and this bipartisan measure and look forward to voting in support. thank you and i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yields back the balance of her time. the gentleman from california. mr. becerra: mr. speaker, we are expecting another speaker but if i could reserve my time and let the gentleman from texas proceed if he has another speaker. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman from texas. mr. johnson: mr. speaker, i yield three minutes to the gentleman from new jersey, mr. lance. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new jersey is recognized for three minutes. mr. lance: thank you, mr. speaker. i rise today to urge passage of h.r. 5739, the no social security for nazis act. which will correct an injustice

but a friend suggests i take some time to visit israel's national holocaust museum. knew my grandparents died during the holocaust, but i wanted to learn more. >> the circumstances of death, it says concentration camp. >> my dad, david blitzer, wrote a testimony for the museum, detailing what he knew about the fate of his family during world war ii. >> i didn't know until i came here that on my father's side, my grandparents died, were killed at auschwitz. i feel like i've been robbed of an experience of having grand parents. 6 million jews were killed during the holocaust. and i saw the documentation from auschwitz and it hit me and i knew that's where i wanted to go. ♪ >> that was a place for working. >> it was for slave labor. >> yes. it was this kind of camp, but work was an instrument of ex-termination. >> it's one thing to learn about the holocaust in school or from books. but to see these places firsthand can be overwhelming. most of the jews here came by cattle car. >> and then began selection. >> who lives and who dies. >> exactly. >> my grandparents died he

. >> leslie schwartz beat all the odds and survived the holocaust.was 14 when he and his family were rounded up in hungary. >> we were taken from my hometown and we marched to the radio station and while marching, they -- you know, this was a tremendous kick, of beating some of the elderly including a rabbi who was constantly beaten with a bayonet. >> from there, leslie and his family were put in a cattle car and taken away. condemned to the nazi concentration camps of auschwitz and dhaka and he lost his parents in the holocaust. mengele directed the people for the tests. >> i noticed that dr. mengele was doing the selection i noticed how babies were taken from mothers' arms and there was a tremendous commotion. >> today as the world watches a new horror unfold, he worries the nazi philosophy that led to the killing of 6 million jews to the holocaust is similar to the beliefs of the islamic terrorists of isis who have executed the innocent and killed christians and others for their faith. >> the philosophy of course is very much the same. you know, a

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. >> i lost my freedom, my family -- eric: leslie schwartz beat all the odds and survived the holocausthe was 14 when he and his family were rounded up in hungary. >> we were taken from my hometown and we marched to the railroad station and while marching, they, you know this was tremendous kick of beating some of the elderly including a rabbi who was constantly beaten with a bayonet. eric: from there, leslie and his family were put in a cattle car an taken away. condemned to the nazi concentration camps auschwitz and dach call, and he lost his parents and sister in the holocaust. he was examined by the infamous doctor joseph mengele. he directed human experiments in auschwitz. >> i was with my mom and when i noticed where dr. mengele was doing the selection, i noticed how babies were taken from mother's arms and there was a tremendous commotion. >> today as the world watches a new horror unfold, he worries that nazi philosophy, that led to the killing of six million jews during the holocaust is similar to the beliefs of the islamic terrorists of isis, who like the nazis have executed t

tell us what happened. >> this was an experiment by salomon ash that happened after the holocaust, he wanted to figure out how people are influenced in their opinion by other people, the other people in the room with you would pick the wrong answer, and say a line not equivalent was not right answer most people will change their answer because of the social context. john: a professor, his student became a psychologist, and run most famous demonstration how good people do not always heed reasonable part of their brain. >> teacher who read a list of world pairs to you -- world pairs, try to remember each pair. john: 50 years ago, yale psychologist conducted this nasty experiment. >> if you get it correct, fine, if you make an error, you will be punished with a electric shock, he call the shockers teachers. >> incorrect. >> get a shock of 75 volts. >> test subject kept making mistakes. >> 150 volts. sad face. >> that is wrong gets me out of here, i told you i had heart trouble. >> the man did not have a heart condition, and was not receiving the shock. that was a recording. >> let me out

plus: >> i'm phil lavelle in paris where $60 million is about to be paid to victims of the nazi holocaust. but it may not happen straight away. find out shortly. owe an explanation to the egyptian people? >> no...no.. >> al jazeera investigates egypt's lost power on al jazeera america teach for america is supposed to educate poor children. >> schools where kids need grade teaching the most. >> can unprepared teachers make a difference? >> why are we sending them teachers with 5 weeks of training? >> now a reminder of the top stories on al jazeera. the international criminal court has upgraded the status of palestine, a symbolic victory for palestinians. the move strengthens palestine's legal standing. >>> the u.n. says it needs 16.4 billion for aid around the world in the coming year. it says the money is needed by the growing number of people affected by combat zones around the world. russia and syria are demanding a explanation from israel, israel is refusing to confirm or deny air strikes. >>> in kenya, police have admitted that they do target so-called muslim radicals with one of the

>> an experiment by solomon ash after the holocaust.he wanted to figure out how people are influenced in opinions by other people. the other people in the room with you were all shills, and say the answer the nonequivalent was the answer. most people will change the answer because of the social context. john: one of the professors who did that study, one of his students went onto become a psychologist and run the most famous demonstration of how good people do not always heed the reasonable part of their brain. >> the teacher will read a list of word pairs like these, blue girl, nice day, fat neck and so forth. you have to remember each pair. 50 years ago, stanley millgram conducted this nasty experiment. >> if you get it correct, fine, if you make an error, you get an electric shock. john: he called the people giving the test teachers. >> try and remember the word pairs. >> incorrect. you will now get a shock of 75 volts. >> oh! >> the subject kept making mistakes. >> 150 volts. >> oh! >> sad face. that's all. get me out of here. i tol

holocaust museum. she used to certainly that when she got arrested the truck she wrote a note and threw it in the meeet for my parents -- tell that when she got arrested in the truck she wrote a note and threw it in the streets for my parents. i do not think she knew that that no had been kept by her sister. after she died at her sister died, i found the know and when i found this little note in my hands and i was in her house and i found this note and she said, i do not knows, where i am going to i want you to know i am leaving with a -- but i want you to know i am meeting with a smile. area i this is who i am am the daughter of someone who went to the camp with a smile. she did not go with a smile but she said she did. that explains so much about me. so by telling my mother's story, i am --ins so much wh who i am. she used to say that god saved me so that i could give you life. and by giving you life you brought my life back. you are my freedom. this is where this little girl, this little belgium gir

have signed an agreement to competent thousands of holocaust victims take to go nazi concentration camps railway company. from paris phil lavelle reports. >> reporter: pictures taken recently in a ref gentlemen camp. >> reporter: thousands of jews paetsched in france's concentration camps but many more were sent abroad to be murdered during world war ii. 70,000 deported by the nazis as they tightened their grip on europe. the french state train operator nscf used to transport them. and on monday, after all these years, an acknowledgment that those who now live outside europe, who survived or at least their relatives, should be comprehended in the same way those living in france were a long time ago. this the symbolic moment a $60 million fund was officially and legally agreed. >> we will never forget that dark chapter of history: it is our duty to remember and pass on this memory to future generations for. [ inaudible ] president reaffirm it's not the history of the jewish people, it is our history. >> we strongly believe this agreement will provide much more meaningful relief to people

a holocaust survivor. he didn't tell most people in his life. they learned at his 80th birthday.t's really remarkable. >> what he's been able to do here, dressing presidents. isn't that something? >> why not. who dresses you, t.j.? >> i have a couple of guys. eh, you don't want that one. yea, actually i do. it's mucinex fast-max night time and it's got a nasal decongestant. is that really a thing? it sounds made up. i can't sleep when i'm all stuffy. i take offense to that. i'm not going to argue with a talking ball of mucus. i think you're being a little hasty... he's not with me. mucinex fast max night time. multi-symptom relief plus nasal decongestant. breathe easy. sleep easy. start the relief. ditch the misery. let's end this. you think it smells fine, but your passengers smell this... eliminate odors you've gone noseblind to for up to 30 days with the febreze car vent clip. female passenger: wow. smells good in here. vo: so you and your passengers can breathe happy. started using gain flings,fe their laundry smells more amazing than ever. (sniff) honey, isn't that the dog's

encounters where people of thec christian faith use the term for holocaust.g the term asking and wishing to heal and to repent and to turn and turn away from their way. so it can only happen when there's that honesty that i referred to at the outset. so when christians are willing to honestly deal with their past that's why there's been able to be a new path that has been charted between the jewish world and christian world since world war ii. so one of the central issues is how does a society deal with its extremist. as the professor alluded to, in every society, every religion, every society in every country, there will be their extremists. there are going to be those who will advocate for violence and the question really is, how does the rest of the society deal with that? does that become mainstream? does that become what is praised or is it what becomes margin alized? we are now celebrating the holiday of hanukkah. and i know this is being broadcast. i don't know if you a have a close-up of the tie but i'm wearing a hanukkah tie. i want you to know. some

the film has been donated to the "united states holocaust memorial mu" glenn ut his grandparents foots c g about fy people f which includti 90- year old maurice chandler. his family instantly recognized his smiling young face in the movie. chandler still lives in florida and his son is an attorney here in chag de third marked 75th anniversary of the deportation of the town's jewish population. >>after a star- studded night, it's a somber morning for the royals visiting new york for their third and final day in the states. the duke and duchess of cambridge paid their respects to the victims of the 9/11 attacks. prince william and kate middleton laid a wreath in memorial plaza at ground zero. the bouquet included a note signed by the couple, which read: "in sorrowful memory of those who died on september 11th, in admiration of the courage shown to rebuild' last night the duke and duchess of cambridge attended a party to support wildlife charities, where they met hillary clinton. then, the royal couple met with music royalty at the brooklyn nets game against the cleveland cavaliers. they

, and he was taken to court for writing whatever he had written in the book about holocaust. that's all he had done, written a book. he was charged with some kind of denial of holocaust, and taken to court, and he was in prison in austria. i wonder if your author can tell us a little bit more about who he was and whether he's still in prison just because he wrote a book. host: martha bayles? guest: i don't know the name of that author. i know that in austria, i know that in germany, and i believe that in austria, saying positive things about the nazi party or the nazi era or even exhibiting nazi symbols insignia like the swastika is ctually illegal. i wouldn't be surprised if someone wrote a book in austria that he would be prosecuted for it. in the united states, that wouldn't happen because of our first amendment. host: i want to bounce this quote off of you from alyssa rosenberg. it was part of her column that she wrote for the "washington post" recently on the sony hack. she wrote, while i certainly worry that the scale of the incident will have a chilling effect on raunc

he said never again at the holocaust museum. right? and a year later, it happens. let's pull this together. when do we intervene? when should we intervene? when should we risk american lives, american blood? we've been looking at these all semester long, from west africa, syria and iraq -- right? from the central african republic to sudan. as a side note, the united nations has named for of those as a level three crisis, which is the highest level crisis they can give anything. we are looking at the highest number of refugees and international displaced people. when should we commit our forces to intervene? what are those variables? opinion? ferocity of the crisis? or should we say we are not the world's policeman? what your thoughts? i think all of these are perfectly defendable. i see some of you shaking your heads. hi. please. >> i agree with the sentiment we cannot leave the world's policeman, but when we have genocides or ask there off, we cannot allow that to happen. when we can help, it's great. much, and-- not so the con

and so, after my mother passed away 14 years ago i did a lot of research in the holocaust museum. she used to tell me that when she got arrested in the truck she wrote a note and threw it in the streets for my parents. i do not think she knew that that note had been kept by her sister. after she died and her sister died, i found the note and when i found this little note in my hands and i was in her house and i found this note and she said, "my dear parents, i do not know where i am going but i want you to know i am meeting it with a smile." i said, this is who i am. i am the daughter of someone who went to the camp with a smile. she did not go with a smile but she said she did. she wanted people to think she went with a smile. that explains so much about me. so by telling my mother's story, it explains so much who i am. she used to say that god saved me so that i could give you life. you are my torture freedom. and by giving you life you brought my life back. this is where this little girl, this little belgian girl with curly hair, that was the thing she was told, you are my free

a few thousand holocaust survivors may be eligible for some of these funds, including victims who live in the countries who have not signed the compensations. thousands were transported to concentration camps on french rail lines. >>> a british millionaire is free after murder charges were dismissed. he was accused of arranging his wife's honeymoon murder in 2002. but the judge said the evidence was just not sufficient. >> reporter: he walked out of a south african courtroom a free man monday. his wife's lifeless body was found in the back of a taxi cab. duwani, a british citizen, accused of hiring a hit man. the taxi driver implicated mr. duwani in the deal, and he and his accomplices are serving long prison sentences, but the case against duwani has been dropped. >> there is evidence that implicates the accused. but the evidence is of such poor quality that one does not know where the lies are and the truth begins, in the circumstances, i make the order. application one is granted. the accused is found not guilty of the charge. >> the verdict left her family who waited four years for

israel's prime minister said that today's vote shows europe and europeans have learned nothing from the holocaustwhat do you make of that? >> thank you very much, first of all, for having me. i don't make much of that. i am no historian, but i can't really see what is the relationship. >> i think he is saying that europe is choosing not to support the world's only jewish state. >> europeans negotiating in these positions are supporting exactly the kind of two-state solution to which israel itself agreed. >> are you blaming israel for the lack of progress in these talks by choosing to bypass negotiations and recognize the palestinian state unilaterally? >> this is not a question of blame. it is simply leveling the field. almost everybody who has been there will say that. making recognition completely conditional on peace negotiations. >> israel said that this will encourage and embolden extremists and saying that this will in fact make israel less safe. what would you say to that? >> i'm hoping exactly the opposite. one of the reasons why the european union and europe has very little clout with pa

my grandparents were holocaust survivors and my parents did not grow up with a lot, really nothing. knowing i was the first generation to have a little bit of something, i wanted to not receive anything and i wanted to work harder than everyone to make my own mark in the world. >> you went to college but school did not suit you, it seems. >> yeah, i went to emory university in atlanta. i found myself wanting to do business, not wanting to sit in class. unfortunately, i started selling fake ids for about two months and then i realized i was going to get caught. i was really good though. >> they worked? >> they worked. >> you became a promoter, a party promoter when you were 19? >> yes. i was throwing all the 21 and up parties and i was 19. the reason i dropped out of school was there was a guy who sat me down and told me the story of robert woodruff, the guy of coca-cola, the largest endowment at emory. i thought, this is great. he gets me. at the end, he tells me that robert woodruff was one in a billion and a chance of you being a robert woodruff is almost impossible. you need to s

a lot of people, if they know i'm the daughter of a holocaust survivor and they are, too, they come to and there are fascinating stories and i love the talk to them because i love the talk to them. my mother never gave me the weight because she didn't tell me. she said in the dark you have the look for the light and live around the light. she witnessed evil but refused to see it? did she give you dreams or simply say to you, you can achieve your dreams, so dream? >> yes, she just said, go! go! she was always ready, go! can i do this? go. yeah. >> charlie: when you look back at all this, have you had to overcome anything? >> i'm sure i did. >> charlie: consciously? did i have to overcome -- but you know, i mean, one of the things that i also say about the book, it doesn't matter how successful you are. you still wake up some morning and feel like you're a total loser. >> charlie: really? you feel about yourself that way? >> all the time. yes. >> charlie: was there anything you would like to change about yourself? >> you know what? i deal with what i have. >> charlie: you've come to that

. >>> israeli is also a special i suppose sensitivity because many holocaust survivors recoil at the idea of playing volunteering never whicwagner whichwas a fav. you tried with good intention to his get the israeli fil philharmonic to play it, it didn't work out. will you try again? >> we will. but we have to have patience, i hope it happens in my lifetime. i hope. but there are still quite a few people with tattooed numbers on their arms. they are revered saints in israel. we have to respect them. and it's not that they hate the music of wagner, but music transports them back to the time of terror and we want to avoid that. >> is there one moment in your career that stands out as being the most awe struck with something that is in front of you or something that you witnessed? >> well, i am a musician as i said. it's the music that makes me awe struck. it's the interpretation of some of my colleagues. but if you talk about an occasion, this orchestra has had many occasions which go down in their history as being very vitally significant. first time we played in berlin after the war.

at the holocaust museum.right? and then a year later, it happens. let's think about this. let's pull this together as a group. when do we intervene? when should we intervene? when should we risk american lives, american blood? as a class, we have discussed these all semester long, from west africa, syria and iraq, central african republic to sudan. as a side note, the united nations has named four of those -- iraq, syria, central africa, and sudan, as a level three crisis, which is the highest level crisis they can give anything. we are looking at the highest number of refugees and international displaced people since world war ii. when should we commit our forces to intervene? what are those variables? public opinion? ferocity of the crisis? should that be read triggering -- be the triggering point? or should we say we are not the world's policeman? what your thoughts? i think all of these are perfectly defendable. i see some of you shaking your heads. hi. please. >> i agree with the sentiment we cannot be t

is an earned benefit that was never intended for those who participated in horrific acts of the holocaust. (laughter) >> i would imagine most government spending programs are not intended to directly benefit the nazis. (laughter) well, with the exception of cash for clinkers. (applause) hogan! congress is hell in such low esteem even while pass a bill banning social security payments to nazis several members felt it they immediate to make it clear they are against nazis. >> i urge my colleagues to end this benefit. >> cut off benefit anyone stripped of their u.s. stenship related to pansion that nazi crimes. >> they submitted-- committed heinous crimes. >> i urge all members of the house to vote yes and pass the no social security to nazis act today. >> do you really have to urge people do this? who are you urging congressman dennis whitepower. >> now wait, hold on there, let's not rush into anything, whoa, whoa, whoa! >> bravo congress on your coverageous anti-social security for nazis stand. i condition believe you wasted the nation's time making yourself look good by passing a bill to

the democracies and the question that he posed was that those that would survive the ideal of the holocaust, how would they survive the ordeal of fear. but what he is very obvious. those societies, you know where you stand. and they are not very imaginative, you know. and so, that is why they are so scared of the poet because they want to reinvent the citizens in their own image and impose their voice on every one. they reimagine everyone and give back the voice to everyone and that is challenging. it's most interest to the tyrants come as in the islamic republic it was targeting "-begin-double-quote and human rights at the first distance between the women, minorities and culture. the first attack on the university's wasn't because the engineers were against the state. those engineers that were in jail for the ones that were politically against the state. the first thing they did is attack the humanities. and the first thing that they are still living is attach humanities that our great leaders. .. >> you know, life. that is what is at stake, freedom of choice. the same way that harriet bee

it counters where people of the christian faith view the term for holocaust. use the term, asking and wishing to deal and to repent and return and turn away. so what can only happen when there is that honesty that i referred to at the outset. so when christians are willing to honestly deal with their past, that is why there's been able to be a new path charted between the jewish world in the christian world since world war ii. one of the central issues is how does the society do with the extremist? professor isaac alluded to the fact in every society, every religion amongst every people and every country, there are going to be extremists. there will be those who will advocate for violence. the question really is, how does the rest of the society deal with that? did that become mainstream? is that what is praised order? is that what becomes isolated? as professor alexander mentioned, we are now celebrating the holiday of hanukkah. i know this is being broadcast. i don't know if you can get a close-up of mitotic, but i'm worried a hanukkah tie. some of you know

including a2burns got in touch to say they were particularly moved by last week's item about the holocaustivor saved by a polish farmer. you can also contact us by e-mail, using the address europa@dw.de. for now, it is goodbye from me and all of us here. do join us again next week, same time, same place. [captioned by the national captioning institute which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] ♪ >>> more time. talk on iran's nuclear program have ended without a deal. negotiations will continue but iran and the u.s. remain far apart. >>> reaching for the stars. an art project sends a satellite into space, extending the boundaries of expression. >>> and global recognition. eunesco adds traditional japanee paper making to its register to the world

including a2burns got in touch to say they were particularly moved by last week's item about the holocaustivor saved by a polish farmer. you can also contact us by e-mail, using the address europa@dw.de. for now, it is goodbye from me and all of us here. do join us again next week, same time, same place. [captioned by the national captioning institute which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] óxóoóx >> garrison keillor: martín espada was born in brooklyn, new york. he moved to massachusetts; worked as a tenement lawyer in boston, teaches at the university of massachusetts, amherst-- creative writing, latino poetry, and the work of pablo neruda. he's published 16 books, and his collection of poems, the republic of poetry, was a finalist for the pulitzer prize. >> at 16, i worked after high school hours at a printing plant that manufactured legal pads-- yellow paper stacked seven feet high and leaning as i slipped cardboard between the pages, then brushed red glue up and down the stack. no gloves-- fingertips required for the perfection of paper, smoothing

began in a community service project part of his bar mitzvah studies his grandfather survived the holocaust >> he told he he received them. >> he vowed to donate baseball equipment to cuban kids. and realized easier said than done. >> it has sanction was the uchlts >> if you want to do a risk, i can't advice you. >> we're invited to attend the havana international film festival. >> and what timing he had. >> i was having lunch with a cuban friend we saw the announcement broadcast by the president he screened the film just hours later. >> my opening remarks is everything changed right? and they erupted in applause. when credits rolled there were tears the question is how did you possibly arrange it? and of course, it was sheer luck. as for micah, his hope is to spread the love of the game. >> maybe we'll help someone get to the big leagues you never know. >> timing is everybodying. >> coming up next a bay area woman threatened with arrest. >> i was stunned and i believed him. i trust policemen. >> you can trust michael finney. wh >>> law enforcement agencies are warning about a new version t

began in a community service project part of his bar mitzvah studies his grandfather survived the holocaustfleeing to cuba. >> he told he he received them. >> he vowed to donate baseball equipment to cuban kids. and realized easier said than done. >> it has sanction was the uchlts >> if you want to do a risk, i can't advice you. >> we're invited to attend the havana international film festival. >> and what timing he had. >> i was having lunch with a cuban friend we saw the announcement broadcast by the president he screened the film just hours later. >> my opening remarks is everything changed right? and they erupted in applause. when credits rolled there were tears the question is how did you possibly arrange it? and of course, it was sheer luck. as for micah, his hope is to spread the love of the game. >> maybe we'll help someone get to the big leagues you never know. >> timing is everybodying. >> coming up next a bay area woman threatened with arrest. >> i was stunned and i believed him. i trust policemen. >> you can trust michael finney. when he says don't it's the time of year for maki

. >> [indiscernible] >> could you wait for the -- >> anyone interested in history -- about the holocaust, there is the scene in poland. the camp was in the distance. the gas chambers. they interviewed all of these people -- no, they did not smell anything, they did not know anything. >> the great olfactory collapse in poland. i am out of time, and as i said for all of the other papers, i guess mine qualifies as well, a good paper is where you can't answer all the questions. [applause] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2014] >> with live coverage of the house on c-span and the senate on c-span2, on c-span3, we complement the coverage by showing you the most most relevant congressional hearings and public affairs events. on weekends we are the home to american history tv, with programs that tell the nations story. the civil wars 150th ,nniversary, visiting fellow is touring museums and historic sites to discover what the artifacts reveal about america's past. history bookshelf, the presidency, looking at the policies

including a2burns got in touch to say they were particularly moved by last week's item about the holocaustivor saved by a polish farmer. you can also contact us by e-mail, using the address europa@dw.de. for now, it is goodbye from me and all of us here. do join us again next week, same time, same place. [captioned by the national captioning institute which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] steves: a selection of ferries make the 50-mile crossing between helsinki and tallinn nearly hourly. because of the ease of this delightful two-hour cruise and the variety a quick trip over to estonia adds to your nordic travels, pairing helsinki and tallinn is a natural. stepping off the boat in tallinn, the capital of estonia, you feel you've traveled a long way culturally from finland. its a mix of east and west. tallinn's nordic lutheran culture and language connect it with stockholm and helsinki, but two centuries of czarist russian rule and nearly 50 years as part of the soviet union have blended in a distinctly russian flavor. fins and estonians share a simila

there's a good rule of debate that the first person to invoke the holocaust loses. in response to that, you know, the real question is what were those perspectives six or seven years after these abuses took place? if you look at the footnotes, you see thousands and thousands of citations to e-mails, to conversations, taking place at the time. those communications speak for themselves. i think it is really important to note that allowing the agency to engage in what is a post hoc rationalization of what is illegal is something that is why we should not be so alarmed. this is not a criminal indictment. this is a discussion document. a document supposed to educate people about what happened in 2003 and 2004. what officials have to say about that eight years later does not change what happened. maybe it says there was a justification we did not know about or learn things after the fact. but it does not change the moment what we did. if we drive a sick family member to the hospital and run the light because it is so important to get to the hospital, we do not go back aft

for the first time, we have a direct appropriation to help holocaust survivors. these are individuals that have a great fear of ending up in an institution. you can understand why. so access to governmental services in the community are particularly important, and this omnibus is sensitive to make sure that we provide that. again, we don't have the omnibus. that initiative is gone. you protected our pell grant recipients so that they can continue to receive their pell grants at the current levels. all this is so important in the omnibus if we don't get it. now, madam president, there are some things in this omnibus i don't like at all. as i said earlier, this is a compromise. i know that the -- we've seen the bills come over from the house of representatives. we've seen the antienvironmental consumer protection bills. so many bills have come over. and we know that there were efforts made to add numerous of these policy riders to the appropriation -- to the omnibus bill. unfortunately, some got on, and i certainly understand the political process. i'm not naive to

i like that it is a country soberly trying to reflect on the legacy of the holocaust. there is an awareness that we can't go back, we can't repeat. in this country, we don't do that. that allows arrogant people, arrogant judges, to say prideful things that add to the injury. it is hurtful to hear some of these narratives. we have to change that narrative, but still be hopeful. you're right, this conversation will make you discouraged, make you worry. i think one of the great challenges we have -- and this is why the church should be more vibrant and out there leading -- is we still have to find ways to be helpful. when they do that, they allow themselves to get comfortable with these realities. we have to be willing to make them hopeful. >> you know -- i have accompanied six people to execution -- here's some hope. people are good. it's not like they've really thought this through and have come out racist or saying, we have to kill the criminals. they have not thought very much about it. my hope -- i don't know i can still be doing this if i was getting out there and g

perish in another holocaust. and this, this beloved feeling he has for his father really was the engine that drove him to the personal parts of it and then, of course, you know, his whole character was based on, we have to build this museum. we have to have a place where new yorkers can go, children can go and see what has happened, and can never happen again. >> we are near the end. you have been wonderful and very generous. what question have we not ask you that we should have asked you? [laughter] >> i don't know. you have been pretty thorough. you have been and invested -- an investigative reporter. >> the book is "timeless." the author is lucinda franks. it's been wonderful being with you again, lucinda. spent thank you so much, dan. you are amazing. you are amazing. [applause] >> and thank you, all of you, for coming. [applause] >> you are watching booktv on c-span2 with top nonfiction books and authors every weekend. booktv, television for serious readers. >> first let's just start with your name and the t