karen pollock, chief executive of the holocaust educational trust, is with me, as is james holland, ai historian. thank you both forjoining me on this hugely important day. karen, it is a day of such significance, notjust significance, not just remembering the significance, notjust remembering the thousands who died here but also remembering the survivors.— the survivors. absolutely, i don't think— the survivors. absolutely, i don't think we _ the survivors. absolutely, i don't think we can - don't think we can underestimate the significance of today and being here at auschwitz—birkenau. 80 years ago when the camps were liberated was the first time the world really became aware of really what was going on inside this place. for survivors, this date means that we, the world, and listening to them, hearing what happened to them, hearing what happened to them, hearing what happened to theirfamilies, their them, hearing what happened to their families, their loved ones that they have lost, brutally murdered by the nazis. with global leaders, with the king here, this really says, it sort o