ideal types because we all know that this is not happening and how the message of christ of the holy bible is being portrayed all over the place i mean when these even gel clothes come over from the united states to russia to say oh no not these people who are not here go back home because they're used to it back there ok but here people look at religion in a very different way it's very solemn and it's very it's very much respected i mean some of the things that people wear like a secular jesus jeans for example but i would almost be blasphemy here i mean lisa for an average person i mean again is it's it's the commodification culture is is hijacking as it were for entertainment personal purposes for money. for its longevity what do you and how do you think about that i mean i mean it's culture is diluting the message more and more. well i agree with that a lot of people are doing these things for personal gain and profit and all of that and i wouldn't buy jesus jeans or jesus pills and and all the rest i mean i would buy a jeans but you put jesus on it it's like making a mockery of the g

it is like they are uncovering more and more bible history. >> bible comes alive in the holy land. >> you are there. >> amazing place to be. it is like the stones are crying out affirming what we know the bible says. >> god speed to you as you return to the middle east. thank you for joining us. >> thanks, gary. >>> coming up next, how god transferred a new orleans gambler into a soul winner. here his amazing testimony that has tched millions around the world. >> now a story of a life well lived. 1 man's decision for the lord transformed his family and millions around the world. john jessup takes us on a grandfather's vision for ministry and he passed it down through the generations. jo grooms lived for 36 -- he did 180 degrees. >> mike grooms thinks back on life with his dad. >> my earliest memory was getting up early in the morning to pray. i am talking, 4 or 5 o'clock. my dad talked loudly to the lord. >> god transformed jo from a new orleans gambler to a soul winner. he told people about jesus and kept him away from his wife and children. >> during those times, i questioned god an

bible and other sacred texts. >> the first word of the rule is listen, and in that sense you learn to listen to how god is speaking to you, and to the holy spirit in your daily life and how you gradually more attune yourself to his grace. and it takes a lifetime to sustain that. and in the sense you learn to love, and love your sisters as they are, and where they are. and it's a sense of freedom. >> most of the day is spent in silence. its peaceful. most of the time. >> the abby is also a working farm with 80 head of cattle. >> takes energy to keep up! >> for four hours a day, every nun works, as they always have. it's what they work at that's changed. and that blue part on top of the head. >> computers an automation have come to the convent. in addition to the small greeting card business, a bakery produces eucharist bread that's sold to churches across irelan the oldest nones help with the shipping. >> we live by the work of our hands and also to have some left to help those out less fortunate. that's a big part of helping our brothers and sisters in need. work is creative. part of it needs creative expression, and you can't spend all