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holy bible does a whole lot of stuff right and i think all of you know you already have a right and we are christian organization we always have been i don't mind like i said. somebody asked me one day if the reason i was against barack obama is because of the color of his skin and my answer was i have no problem if they want if america wants a black president i have no problem if america wants a hispanic president or an oriental president it does not matter to me if he's an american citizen and has the will for the american people what it is best be what kind of fear dr somebody to become a member of the what are you really it's not fears more snow white pride we have a lot of people but you know white people run this country white people have the majority the money in this country white people have the power in this country i mean what's why do you need to do the chest thumping it's not so much the chest already got it all i'm not saying it that way ok it is a he is a huge power right now in this country. no american has at all if you think about the fact that we're going to have
holy bible does a whole lot of stuff right and i think all of you know you already have a right and we are christian organization we always have been i don't mind like i said. somebody asked me one day if the reason i was against barack obama is because of the color of his skin and my answer was i have no problem if they want if america wants a black president i have no problem if america wants a hispanic president or an oriental president it does not matter to me if he's an american citizen...
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straight from hell, to keep me and folks who taught them who understand they need to say, i hold the holy bibleo me of how i live in washington, d.c. >> i think he's speaking in the natural history museum of all places, denying the connection of us all there. i don't know why we test our medicines on animals. this seems to be a lot of connection, at least fiphysical with us and the rest of the world. he believes it somehow happened as it was in the bible as he interprets the bible and how he decides what to vote on, the science committee and house. >> lies straight from the pit of hell there might be other things straight from the pit of hell that don't have to do with evolution. he wants to be the senator from georgia and thinks he's got a bright future in georgia politics and all we can hope is georgia steadily turns purple and blue and we don't have to deal with the paul browns of the world anymore. >> i'm glad he wasn't running nasa in the 60s, i don't know what we would have done. next up, number two, this comes from one time candidate and host of the syndicated program, the 700 club, pat
straight from hell, to keep me and folks who taught them who understand they need to say, i hold the holy bibleo me of how i live in washington, d.c. >> i think he's speaking in the natural history museum of all places, denying the connection of us all there. i don't know why we test our medicines on animals. this seems to be a lot of connection, at least fiphysical with us and the rest of the world. he believes it somehow happened as it was in the bible as he interprets the bible and how...
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everything falls apart that you pick um the true belief, whatever the true belief is, whether it's the holy biblewhether it's the gold standard, whatever simplistic notion there is. >> thank you, howard fineman. thank you, david corn, jonathan capehart, and joan wall nsh new york. you have a smile on your face, which is appropriate. thank you all for being with us. if you're out holiday shopping, get a copy of my new book, "tipping the gipper." it will make you feel happier this holiday. see you monday night at 7:00 a.m. eastern for more "hardball." [ male announcer ] step one, prepare for triumph. step two, baconated cheese for awesome. step three, get ready to wow. step four... mmmmm. ♪ [ male announcer ] pillsbury crescents. make the holidays pop.
everything falls apart that you pick um the true belief, whatever the true belief is, whether it's the holy biblewhether it's the gold standard, whatever simplistic notion there is. >> thank you, howard fineman. thank you, david corn, jonathan capehart, and joan wall nsh new york. you have a smile on your face, which is appropriate. thank you all for being with us. if you're out holiday shopping, get a copy of my new book, "tipping the gipper." it will make you feel happier this...
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he said some five hundred text messages from my toe and he says there is holy is the bible to it. the one who created this holy cow is soo cool. she's a farmer himself from a well educated family time and time again she asked herself how she could share her knowledge with other farmers. at some point it became clear to or that africa can only be done by fall. this is where the developing world is going between the two computers become what to charge them only twenty percent of the country connected to the date they will be very small devices like this but i'm going to be and that only depend on moussaoui beginning to see now. solutions made in africa. there are no dozens of such inventions which it won awards and been exported to the rest of the world. and it's one reason why nairobi kenya's capital is already being called a silly concept why should we think that the us national security agency or nsa can hack into pretty much any mother often call or transaction. this has sent the nsa then you probably don't eat some one hundred thousand toxic items and the unknown everyday. we ha
he said some five hundred text messages from my toe and he says there is holy is the bible to it. the one who created this holy cow is soo cool. she's a farmer himself from a well educated family time and time again she asked herself how she could share her knowledge with other farmers. at some point it became clear to or that africa can only be done by fall. this is where the developing world is going between the two computers become what to charge them only twenty percent of the country...
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he was quoting from the holy bible. >> you said a&e has an anti-christian agenda? >>le a&e -- >> a&e has a pro robert son agenda. >> if he was twerking a duck he would have gotten an emmy. >> that's not fair. >> that image will haunt my dreams. >> i'm sorry about that. >> i hope it's taken out of the show so the viewers don't think about it. >> we know there are plenty of interpretations, plenty of good people who disagree with him. >> you're right. there is a spectrum of the episcopal church but he was basically quoting from the bible. >> a&e had a political correctness reaction to it. >> all right. we have more with our spirited panel right after the break. we'll reveal which major "duck dynasty" sponsor decided to stay with phil, if not the show. later, i go head to head with the lead organizer of an islamic extremist group threatening business owners with a lashing and the wrath of allah if they continue to sell alcohol. seriously. the interview you have to see. later, ainsley earhardt's final installment in the week-long homes for heroes series. a lot is comin
he was quoting from the holy bible. >> you said a&e has an anti-christian agenda? >>le a&e -- >> a&e has a pro robert son agenda. >> if he was twerking a duck he would have gotten an emmy. >> that's not fair. >> that image will haunt my dreams. >> i'm sorry about that. >> i hope it's taken out of the show so the viewers don't think about it. >> we know there are plenty of interpretations, plenty of good people who disagree with...
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i hold the holy bible as being the major directions to me of how i vote in washington, d.c.'ll continue to do that. >> joan, i think he's speaking at a natural history museum of all places denying the connection of us all there. i don't know why we test our medicines on animals. there seems to be a lot of connections at least with us and the rest of this world. but this guy conditions all of that. he believes that somehow it all happened exactly as it was in the bible. as he interprets the bible. and that's how he decides what to vote on the science committee in the house. >> and these are lies straight from the pit of hell. there might be other things straight from the pit of hell that don't have to do with evolution. no. it's an incredible paranoia. he thinks he's got a bright future in georgia politics. and all we can hope is that georgia steadily turns purple and then blue and we don't have to deal with the paul brouns of the world anymore. >> i'm glad he wasn't running nasa back in the '60s. i don't know what we would have done. up next, this is from the host of the "70
i hold the holy bible as being the major directions to me of how i vote in washington, d.c.'ll continue to do that. >> joan, i think he's speaking at a natural history museum of all places denying the connection of us all there. i don't know why we test our medicines on animals. there seems to be a lot of connections at least with us and the rest of this world. but this guy conditions all of that. he believes that somehow it all happened exactly as it was in the bible. as he interprets...
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they're traveling to the holy land which the bible says was the birthplace of cries.hey will be lined up to see christianity's oldest and holiest of churches which is currently undergoing restoration. >> this is the new workplace. the roof of the church of nativity in bethlehem. they are testing be beings that have supported the church for centries. the elements have taken a heavy toll. >> we are trying to replace only the parts which will not withstand the load anymore. we want to leave the structure as close as we can to the way it was before. we use wood that we found in italy, the same age as they would here and with the same characteristics. >> the family has been involved in the restoration of churches and historic buildings for generations. for him and is not just a job. it is a labor of love. >> we have to check materials from different eras. it hurt to see this church in such bad condition. we are happy to be involved as the reservation -- renovations get underway. >> inside, they use buckets to catch dripping water. the three religious denominations have bee
they're traveling to the holy land which the bible says was the birthplace of cries.hey will be lined up to see christianity's oldest and holiest of churches which is currently undergoing restoration. >> this is the new workplace. the roof of the church of nativity in bethlehem. they are testing be beings that have supported the church for centries. the elements have taken a heavy toll. >> we are trying to replace only the parts which will not withstand the load anymore. we want to...
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worsh celebrate a holiday in two thousand will also make the pilgrimage to bath and then the holy land which the bible says was the birthplace of christ. and on the lining of the christianity is all is as fully as churches which is currently undergoing restoration. this is my champion chang's new workplace. the rules of the church of the nativity in bethlehem. the restorer and his team of palestinians in a tele is protesting the timber beams that it supported the church century. at the zoo. the elements of taken a heavy toll. the most or all of it the way trying to rip nice only does pants which ones would stand indicted in the mall interested in possibly want to leave the structure as close as we can to the way it was before. given that there are more than leno on the news went to the fountain attending the same age as to what he has a hand with the same characteristics. but the attendees family has been involved in the restoration of churches and historic buildings for generations for him. it's not just in town. it's a labor of love there is the main dish at nine am to chat materials from different
worsh celebrate a holiday in two thousand will also make the pilgrimage to bath and then the holy land which the bible says was the birthplace of christ. and on the lining of the christianity is all is as fully as churches which is currently undergoing restoration. this is my champion chang's new workplace. the rules of the church of the nativity in bethlehem. the restorer and his team of palestinians in a tele is protesting the timber beams that it supported the church century. at the zoo. the...
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bible. the pages have shredded, the letter is torn. >> this is the holy scripture. >> each night, his grandfather slept with his head on the bible, including the night all his comrades were killed when a grenade hit their dugout. >> a piece of shrapnel flew under his head and was stopped by the bible. if he had not been lying on it, the shrapnel would have struck his head, and he would have been killed. >> was it a miracle? >> it is a miracle -- an absolute miracle, and incredibly symbolic. without this bible, i would not be standing here today because i would never have existed. >> letters, photos, journals -- world history is often made from little things like marcus' bible. to prepare for the 100th anniversary of the start of world war i, france is calling on people to submit war memorabilia to create a huge online archive. this man and his son have come as well. he's interested in his great grandfather and his belongings, but he's not the only one. historians are just as curious when people bring in old photos and journals. this archivist asks to see what they brought. it is items like these
bible. the pages have shredded, the letter is torn. >> this is the holy scripture. >> each night, his grandfather slept with his head on the bible, including the night all his comrades were killed when a grenade hit their dugout. >> a piece of shrapnel flew under his head and was stopped by the bible. if he had not been lying on it, the shrapnel would have struck his head, and he would have been killed. >> was it a miracle? >> it is a miracle -- an absolute...
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were it not for this bible the pages are shredded the leather is torn pct. this is the holy scripture. each night that his grandfather slept with his head on the bible. including denied all his comrades were killed when a grenade hit to get out a piece of shrapnel flinders taken was stopped by the bible filled with those cool. she had been lying on it. the shrapnel when it struck his head full force to be. he has been killed. it would follow will circle school fun than it took was a numerical system going. it's a miracle when absolute miracle. what an incredibly symbolic can infuse without the spinal i will be standing here today because i'd never have existed. it's with a vision of the scheme. letters photos and journals. world history is often made from little things like marcus gunners bible to prepare for the one hundredth anniversary of the start of world war one france is calling on people to submit more memorabilia to create a huge online archive new forces to push the mission tis is known as electronic on it the table the semillon his son greg lott has come to. craig
were it not for this bible the pages are shredded the leather is torn pct. this is the holy scripture. each night that his grandfather slept with his head on the bible. including denied all his comrades were killed when a grenade hit to get out a piece of shrapnel flinders taken was stopped by the bible filled with those cool. she had been lying on it. the shrapnel when it struck his head full force to be. he has been killed. it would follow will circle school fun than it took was a numerical...
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more clear picture about the truth of what is, you know, what god is trying to express in the bible, in the holytures and, of course, you know, the ultimate revelation of god's truth was embodied in jesus christ, we as christians believe and it's very significant to me that jesus christ never once mentioned homosexuality. >> as for your specific situation, you've now been defrocked for performing your own son's marriage to a man. you were asked to voluntary relinquish your credentials, and you said no. the united methodist church has thrown you out. when you performed your son's wedding, did you think the road would end up here with you being no longer a pastor in the methodist church? >> i certainly did not. i did it out of love for my son. it was an act of love and especially in his case where he had in the past struggled with his sexual orientation to a point where he was considering suicide. i thought for sure that the church would recognize that this was an act of love and that i would receive leniency. besides, i actually reported my intention to perform this wedding to my bishop and my su
more clear picture about the truth of what is, you know, what god is trying to express in the bible, in the holytures and, of course, you know, the ultimate revelation of god's truth was embodied in jesus christ, we as christians believe and it's very significant to me that jesus christ never once mentioned homosexuality. >> as for your specific situation, you've now been defrocked for performing your own son's marriage to a man. you were asked to voluntary relinquish your credentials,...
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holy couple. tradition says the structure was built over joseph's workshop. when we looked at the actual translation from the greek biblesomething else. >> this idea of joseph with a saw and saw horse is probably a romanticized version of joseph. he was a building, he made things. >> it's a mistranslation of people who thought a builder was worked with wood, because the king james bible. but we have stone here. >> but remember, we do romanticize and joseph. joseph and mary were never mare yesterday. most people don't realize that. >> they get married later. >> no, it never says they married later. he's never called anything. >> in the first century, a betrothal contract. the virgin birth, how would that go over in a first century nazarene town? >> a lot of jews would say she was raped by a roman. but the claim of being born of a virgin, as unusual as it seems, it was not unthinkable. >> a 13 or 14-year-old girl found to be pregnant and not married, that's a death sentence. >> this was the high point in joseph's life, because he could have exposed her. and you're right, she could have been stoned. he protected her. yes,
holy couple. tradition says the structure was built over joseph's workshop. when we looked at the actual translation from the greek biblesomething else. >> this idea of joseph with a saw and saw horse is probably a romanticized version of joseph. he was a building, he made things. >> it's a mistranslation of people who thought a builder was worked with wood, because the king james bible. but we have stone here. >> but remember, we do romanticize and joseph. joseph and mary...
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holy couple. tradition says the structure was built over joseph's carpentry workshop. when we look at the actual trance ligs from the greek biblescovered something else. >> this idea of joseph with a saw and a saw horse is probably a row mant sized version of joseph. he was a builder. he made things. t it is someone who makes things oh who creates something. >> it is a miss translation when people thought builders worked with wood. we have stone here. >> remember we row mant size about joseph in lots of ways. joseph and mary were never married. most don't realize that. >> didn't they get married later? >> no. he is never called anything except for herbie troether betr. >> it is a legal contract. it is not the same as being married but it is a stronger bond than we would call today being engaged. >> the virgin birth, how would that go over in a first century nazarene town. >> a lot of jews would say she obviously got raped a roman his name was pantera. the claim of being born a virgin as unusual it was not unthinkable. >> a 13 or 14-year-old girl bound to be pregnant and she is not married. >> this was the high point in joseph's
holy couple. tradition says the structure was built over joseph's carpentry workshop. when we look at the actual trance ligs from the greek biblescovered something else. >> this idea of joseph with a saw and a saw horse is probably a row mant sized version of joseph. he was a builder. he made things. t it is someone who makes things oh who creates something. >> it is a miss translation when people thought builders worked with wood. we have stone here. >> remember we row mant...
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and not act like anyone's holy scripture, including the bible, is a kind of ethical road map through all of the issues. it is inconceivable to me that senator pryor or any of his colleagues could decide policy on syria, edward snowden, obamacare, based on some kind of facts he would gain from his christian bible. and then apply them to the complexities of this life. that is not what the bible is. he is perfectly in his right to talk about his belief in jesus christ. when he seems to tie that as a guide to its public policymaking, he is making a very big mistake. constitutionally and personally. host: dr. land? guest: it is a totally appropriate ad. he is running for senate and was the people of arkansas to know who he is. he feels that in order to do that he needs to explain his faith. it is very important in his life. he happens to be a southern baptist. it is based upon his understanding of scripture. and the very famous speech that john f. kennedy made in 1960 when he was a senator in texas, my hometown of houston. his understanding of scripture. and the very famous speech that jo
and not act like anyone's holy scripture, including the bible, is a kind of ethical road map through all of the issues. it is inconceivable to me that senator pryor or any of his colleagues could decide policy on syria, edward snowden, obamacare, based on some kind of facts he would gain from his christian bible. and then apply them to the complexities of this life. that is not what the bible is. he is perfectly in his right to talk about his belief in jesus christ. when he seems to tie that as...
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bible into latin. here, believe below saint catherine the chapel of the holy innocence.e are coming into the continuation of the case complex that is underneath the church of the nativity. >> and that's where jesus was born. he was born in a cave likes a sort of a cellar or basement of somebody's home? >> yeah. that's right. and the caves of saint jerome and saint paula and saint are here behind this wall deeper into the cave complex. >> these early christians established the first monasteries and nunneries in bethlehem and commemorated a site where some say facts, fiction and faith come together. the grotto a site where tradition says the holy family lived when herrod sent his soldiers to kill all the babies in bethlehem. >> according to the first christian belief, while mary was nursing her baby here, some drops of her milk fell to the ground. >> tradition says a miracle occurred in this cave, a short distance from jesus' birth site. when the drops of mary's milk turned the walls white. and according to franciscan, brother lauren, people come here hoping for more mirac
bible into latin. here, believe below saint catherine the chapel of the holy innocence.e are coming into the continuation of the case complex that is underneath the church of the nativity. >> and that's where jesus was born. he was born in a cave likes a sort of a cellar or basement of somebody's home? >> yeah. that's right. and the caves of saint jerome and saint paula and saint are here behind this wall deeper into the cave complex. >> these early christians established the...
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like anyone's holy scripture, including the bible, is a kind of ethical road map through all of the issues inconceivable to me that senator pryor or any of his colleagues could decide policy on syria, edward snowden, obamacare, based on some kind of facts he would gain from his christian bible. and then apply them to the complexities of this life. that is not what the bible is. he is perfectly in his right to talk about his belief in jesus christ. when he seems to tie that as a guide to its public policymaking, he is making a very big mistake. constitutionally and personally. host: dr. land? guest: it is a totally appropriate ad. he is running for senate and was the people of arkansas to know who he is. he feels that in order to do that he needs to explain his faith. it is very important in his life. he happens to be a southern baptist. hiss based upon understanding of scripture. and the very famous speech that john f. kennedy made in 1960 when he was a senator in texas, my hometown of houston. my pastor at the time was there. i was 13 years old and was eager to hear his report after liste
like anyone's holy scripture, including the bible, is a kind of ethical road map through all of the issues inconceivable to me that senator pryor or any of his colleagues could decide policy on syria, edward snowden, obamacare, based on some kind of facts he would gain from his christian bible. and then apply them to the complexities of this life. that is not what the bible is. he is perfectly in his right to talk about his belief in jesus christ. when he seems to tie that as a guide to its...
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bible says? >> well, i do have a different take on this. i think the holy, they're very important us to as christians, of course. and they do talk about truth and we are trying to figure out what that truth actually is and what it means. but the scriptures predominantly are there given for us for inspiration and for help. and as a minister, i just take to that approach and i tried to really inspire people. so comments made by phil and others that lump together homosexuality with promiscuity, they're offensive, especially to homosexuals. because that's not a choice. they weren't, you know, that's not their choice. they were born this way. they were created this way. it is totally unfair and very hurtful. and i think what i would like to ask phil is, you know, who made you judge? who are you to judge? we just heard about pope frances and he went on record to say who am i to judge? but who is phil to judge? >> could i answer that? could i answer that? >> go ahead. >> phil is saying that -- when phil says homosexuality is a sin, he is not formulating a judgment
bible says? >> well, i do have a different take on this. i think the holy, they're very important us to as christians, of course. and they do talk about truth and we are trying to figure out what that truth actually is and what it means. but the scriptures predominantly are there given for us for inspiration and for help. and as a minister, i just take to that approach and i tried to really inspire people. so comments made by phil and others that lump together homosexuality with...
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holy settlement. in just one square mile, the most revered places of each of the three religions. and this is also the place where the biblethat god had finally demanded too much. abraham had waited into very old age for the children that god had promised. he had already been told to send his first son ishmael away. now only isaac was left at home. >> abraham, for better or for worse, is used to hearing god's voice. and one day, as the torah tells us in genesis 22, god decides to test abraham. and he says, take your son. your only son. whom you love, and offer him as a sacrifice at the place that i will show you. >> god was telling abraham to kill his own son. ♪ >> you would think that that story is so barbaric that it would have died out over time. instead, jews read it in their holiest week of the year on rosh hashanah. christians read it, the same story, in their holiest week of the year, on easter. muslims read it, the same story, in their holiest week of the year. >> to this day, the story is commemorated by muslims all over the world on a holiday called aid ah atta. the hassan family are american muslims living in ne
holy settlement. in just one square mile, the most revered places of each of the three religions. and this is also the place where the biblethat god had finally demanded too much. abraham had waited into very old age for the children that god had promised. he had already been told to send his first son ishmael away. now only isaac was left at home. >> abraham, for better or for worse, is used to hearing god's voice. and one day, as the torah tells us in genesis 22, god decides to test...
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country that all christianity will be almost completely erased from the traditional middle east holy land of the bible. mary to uld not take egypt because jesus would not have been safe there today. to follow on sir baldry's line of thinking, the patriarch abraham would also have a difficult time surviving in iraq having come from er, which is now nasiriyah. jonah would be hard pressed to make it to naviniva, which is now in the most you will area, and paul could scarcely travel the road to demascus in syria. the debate in the house of commons began with a staggering statistic, namely that one christian is killed every 11 minutes somewhere on earth for their faith. one christian is killed every 11 minutes somewhere on earth for their faith. the focus of the commons debate was on the persecution of christians, several noted that whether or not you are a person of faith, all should be concerned by this troubling trend. ultimately, freedom of religion weather for s a bell other cherished freedoms where this first freedom is compromised, the whole human rights is under assault. in country after country, f
country that all christianity will be almost completely erased from the traditional middle east holy land of the bible. mary to uld not take egypt because jesus would not have been safe there today. to follow on sir baldry's line of thinking, the patriarch abraham would also have a difficult time surviving in iraq having come from er, which is now nasiriyah. jonah would be hard pressed to make it to naviniva, which is now in the most you will area, and paul could scarcely travel the road to...
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course it's troubling, but it he minds me the bible, we say it's a defying document, it's written from a man's point of view. >> ironically, in the muslim holyan, there i much to go around. >> they are co-equal human beings and that's something important to keep in mind. >> in the end, it didn't really matter whose fault it was. they both suffered the consequences of disobeying god. the first lesson of again that sis, is cold and hard. for humans sustaining life on this earth is not meant to be easy. >> we have to go out into the cold suffering world where we labor by the sweat of our brows and have to suffer and die. >> and we christians believe this is why jesus came, to solve that problem. to pay the penalty for sin. >> but maybe when eve made the choice that christians call original sin, it was something more, maybe it was the first act of original thought. >> adam and eve. >> free will? >> absolutely free will. you can make a choice. that's the worst thing that faces a human beings. you can choose. >> on our journey we met believers that say it's straight from the mouth of god. >> do you think that it happened. >> and we met others, eve
course it's troubling, but it he minds me the bible, we say it's a defying document, it's written from a man's point of view. >> ironically, in the muslim holyan, there i much to go around. >> they are co-equal human beings and that's something important to keep in mind. >> in the end, it didn't really matter whose fault it was. they both suffered the consequences of disobeying god. the first lesson of again that sis, is cold and hard. for humans sustaining life on this earth...
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but it reminds me that the bible, for all that we say it's a divine document, it is written from a man's point of view. >> ironically, in the muslim holy, the koran, there's more than enough blame to go around. >> both adam and eve are to blame equally for eating the forbidden fruit. so, they're co-equal human beings. and i think that's been lost in today's narrative about islam for muslims. >> in the end it didn't really matter whose fault it was, they both suffered the consequences of disobeying god. the first lesson of genesis is cold and hard. for humans, sustaining life on this earth is not meant to be easy. >> we have to go out into that cold, suffering world where we labor by the sweat of our brows and give forth our children in pain and have to suffer and die. >> and we christians believe that this is why jesus came, to solve that problem. to pay the penalty for sin. >> but maybe, when eve made the choice that christians call original sin, it was something more. maybe it was the first act of original thought. >> adam and eve. >> free will? >> absolutely free will. that's the story of you can make a choice. that's the most horri
but it reminds me that the bible, for all that we say it's a divine document, it is written from a man's point of view. >> ironically, in the muslim holy, the koran, there's more than enough blame to go around. >> both adam and eve are to blame equally for eating the forbidden fruit. so, they're co-equal human beings. and i think that's been lost in today's narrative about islam for muslims. >> in the end it didn't really matter whose fault it was, they both suffered the...
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but it reminds me that the bible, for all that we say it's a divine document, it is written from a man's point of view. >> ironically, in the muslim holyk, the koran, there's more than enough blame to go around. >> both adam and eve are to blame equally for eating the forbidden fruit. so, they're co-equal human beings. and i think that's been lost in today's narrative about islam for muslims. >> in the end it didn't really matter whose fault it was, they both suffered the consequences of disobeying god. the first lesson of genesis is cold and hard. for humans, sustaining life on this earth is not meant to be easy. >> we have to go out into that cold, suffering world where we labor by the sweat of our brows and give forth our children in pain and have to suffer and die. >> and we christians believe that this is why jesus came, to solve that problem. to pay the penalty for sin. >> but maybe, when eve made the choice that christians call original sin, it was something more. maybe it was the first act of original thought. >> adam and eve. >> free will? >> absolutely free will. that's the story of you can make a choice. that's the most horr
but it reminds me that the bible, for all that we say it's a divine document, it is written from a man's point of view. >> ironically, in the muslim holyk, the koran, there's more than enough blame to go around. >> both adam and eve are to blame equally for eating the forbidden fruit. so, they're co-equal human beings. and i think that's been lost in today's narrative about islam for muslims. >> in the end it didn't really matter whose fault it was, they both suffered the...