holy land five or five muslim palestinian american men who are accused by the u.s. government after nine eleven of funneling money to hamas their charity the holy land foundation and what followed was an outright crusade against them going to a conviction based on questionable evidence and now they're serving prison sentences of up to sixty five years so why is there such a double standard when it comes to muslims and even more so how it's time to talk about that and more i was joined earlier by nora barrows freedman sociate editor and staff reporter with the electronic intifada i first asked her if there can be any retribution for the holy land five. of the past week and a half i've been speaking with some of the lawyers and civil rights advocates that have been involved in the holy land five defense team and it's unclear what the next step is i know that the family and some civil rights organizations are talking about. heaving the way towards exoneration and release. but as the lead. recourse this latest appeal to the supreme court was pretty much the last one and with the supreme court basically ignoring the defense's petition and stating that they would not hear th

you go back to his refusal to prosecute associates of terrorism after the holy land foundation trial.that he gave to supporters of terrorism. you look at their relationship with muslim brotherhood front organizations. you look at four years ago, steve, four years ago, you had khalid sheikh mohammed and all the other four planners for 9-11 agreed to plead guilty. he comes out with this oh, we'll bring them to new york for a show trial. they withhold it. four years later, there is still no justice. they were ready to plead guilty for it. that alone is bad enough. then you look at being in contempt of congress and all -- if he didn't know about fast and furious, that alone is enough to be fired. and if he did, then it's something more serious than being fired at stake here. then we hear napolitano may be the replacement? i tell you what, steve, any republican senator that supports napolitano to replace this guy after all the wrongs she's done and the imcompetence needs to be targeted and defeated in the next election. she should not be the replacement. >> steve: it's interesting you shou