have ever encountered in my number of years here as a member of congress, the department of homeland security. wasted $887 million on a virtual fence on the arizona/mexico border, has made not a single technological advance as far as airport security is concerned to ease passengers' transit from one place to another, and has shown an incredible ability to illustrate inefficiency at its best. i thank you, mr. chairman. >> thank you, senator mccain. senator lieberman? >> thanks, mr. chairman. thanks to both of you. my friend from arizona. i have a disagreement. i want to come to the defense of the department of homeland security. the fact is that we haven't had a major terrorist attack on the u.s. since 9/11 and you have to give the leadership, bipartisan, over two administrations, and the thousands of people who work at dhs, some credit for that. secondly, in terms of the stove piping, i think a better analogy here, and it's not a perfect one, it's to compare the relationship between the cia and the fbi to the relationship between cyber command, nsa and dhs. cia has authority outside of the un

we'll continue our important oversight of the department of homeland security. she's been here before and i can speak for every member of the committee she's always been responsive when we called with questions and in between the testimony. this is our oversight department of homeland security and the work that the women and men of the agencies within the department do every day to keep america safe. now, much attention has been focused on incidents prior to president obama's attendance at the summit of americas in colombia. i've spoken a number of times with secret service director sullivan about this. in fact, we met privately for about an hour yesterday, and probably been on the phone half a dozen or a dozen times. i've known the director from the time that he was an agent. i knew him when president bush appointed him as director of the secret service and when president obama re-appointed. i know he shares my view that the alleged conduct was unacceptable. i think he's doing all he can to ensure a timely and thorough investigation, accountability for behavior

david wulf joined the department of homeland security in july of 2011 as the deputy director of the infrastructure security compliance division. within the office of infrastructure protection. he leads the national implementation of the chemical facility antiterrorism standards program to assess high risk chemical facilities, promote collaborative security planning and ensure that covered facilities meet risk based performance standards. mr. wulf also manages the efforts to implement a regulatory regime for immonium nitrate projects. serving among other rules as chief bureau of affairs and national explosives training and research. thank you all for being here. your full, written testimony will be made a part of the record. we would ask you for a summary of five minutes. we'll start from my left to right with secretary beers first. >> thank you, chairman and ranking member clark. it's a pleasure to be here today to discuss the department's efforts to regulate security under the chemical facilities antiterrorism standards act. alongside me today as you indicated are penny anderson and david wulf. t

department of homeland security. obviously, sharing with the committee the concern about whether this research represents a real threat to our homeland security and if so, what we should do about it. thanks so much for being here. we welcome your testimony now. >> thank you. good morning, chairman lieberman, ranking member collins. i thank you for the opportunity to testify today regarding dual-use life science research of concern. my testimony today will describe both department of homeland security mechanisms for addressing and mitigating dual-use concerns arising from internal life sciences research that dhs funds or performs as well as dhs involvement in u.s. government and other efforts to address security concerns arising from the life sciences research. as the department considers the durc issue, several principles help guide our thinking. first, durc is an extremely complex issue for the scientific research and development community. balancing our nation's need to excel in science and exploration of robust te

was he even homeland security? >> he was not. >> reporter: was he a federal agent?he was not. >> reporter: so based on what you know, he was a great imposter? >> that's correct, yes. >> reporter: in a jail house interview, flint denied the charges. >> reporter: did you ever tell anyone that you were with homeland security? >> negative, never. >> reporter: but then he told abc news he did have a role with homeland security, a claim authorities say is just not true. >> i'm climbing the ladder with homeland security. i don't know how the confusion came in, but i have to use some protocols with homeland security to report some things they saw, and that was my duty. >> reporter: our abc news investigation of flint found he's spent years showing up at disaster areas on behalf of a charity he founded called volunteer medics worldwide. pictures he's posted online show how he's saved thousands of lives. authorities say the video posted by flint online showing him conducting eye procedures on a young woman in africa, raise questions about his medical qualifications. >> our in

department of homeland security along with u.s. immigrations and customs enforcement have placed a large and rather interesting order they've ordered four hundred fifty million rounds of ammunition to be made and delivered to them over the next five years at the company alliance texas terms are eighty k. was awarded the contract to manufacture forty caliber ammunition high performance bullets apparently these bullets quote provide optimum penetration for terminal performance that refers to the way the tip of the bullet passes through various and expands all the while staying in place so it doesn't get ruined so this is interesting because this is not the pentagon making the order for the military this is dea agents and ice and to give you a little perspective here there are only three hundred eleven million people living in the entire country so it begs the question why such a massive order well for that and more i was joined by radio host and filmmaker jason burma's jason is also the director of invisible empire a new world order

well that is the real question and why does the department of homeland security even exist in the first place let us not forget this is a department that was created in the wake of nine eleven really in the spirit of hitler's own deutschland security and over the plate the past decade plus they've been given more and more power and alarmingly the president has made some pretty crazy power grabs and self in the last few months of course the n.d.a. and the subsequent bill where they can declare martial law under any emergency and have a kind of super eminent domain landgrab well if you're going to do this and you're going to have a department like homeland security and force these types of things unfortunately you're going to have to arm them and for them purchasing four hundred fifty million hollow point bullets their intentions seem very clear to me it's not only to intimidate the american people but to use force when necessary if they arise now a lot of people are saying of course there are tons of discussions on this especially going on on line at a lot of it was saying hey you know w

they moved it under homeland security. >> what is that? >> the department of homeland security. [ laughter ] >> janet napolitano -- it has all the agencies under it. let me tell you about secret service. nobody on the president's detail has been involved in this. these are a lot of guy this are sending in and out to do advanced work. >> exit question is senator grassley that has been on this case on a political witch hunt he is a very powerful man. he's a dedicated man. he served for 30-40 years in congress. do his concerns about white house conduct have merit? >> i think he is talking generally secret service yes. they should look at it because there is a real possibility individuals could be comp fiesed. it may be wide-spread. homeland security is the place to do it. >> you think it's a ha ha story. >> it has that aspect also. >> i said there will be a special council it does involve white house staff. white house staff. the president's staff. the president says -- [ inaudible ] >> i postally agree it's a nonstory. i think senator grassl

in the homeland security side you have several. lieberman-collins we mentioned earlier. , dan lundgren we mentioned. dan clark the ranking member of house security subcommittee and house homeland. you also have peter king and bennie thompson ranking members of the house homeland security full committee. there is house cybersecurity caucus where you have mike mccaul who we mentioned earlier. and one other person who has been very active on the house side has been mack thornberry, a congressman from texas was in charge of cybersecurity task force and has been engaged on these issues since the beginning. house homeland security committee back in 2002. >> host: give us a sense how big this issue will get in the years to come. >> guest: given every single one ever us has a smartphone, internet connected television, using computer technologies to run our every-day lives. you have all the critical infrastructures that the banking the financial industries, electric grids we talked about earlier, the telecom industries all relying on cyber and internet to deliver their services it

the first one involves homeland security.i do not know about these not see references anymore, but they need to think about this. when they retroactively allow at&t or any other communications company that handles the internet to retroactively be innocent of the crimes they have already committed, this is step- by-step the new gestapo of america. she said that there was going to be a lot of small bills, but this would be one big bill? the reason it is one big bill is to confuse everyone and not bring out the real issues. if you think that american newspapers and media are going to tell us anything at all, that is a dream. host: any thoughts on that callers perspective? caller -- guest: essentially, what they are intending to do is, when the government shares information with a company and the company acts on that information and something goes wrong, the company has protection based on what the government said. those are the protections in the bill. if you take the four or five bills along this line, there will be bills on th

. >> from a homeland security point of view why don't you talk to us a little about this and whether you think there ought to be clearer red lines here or whether this is an area of scientific inquiry where it is simply impossible to state a red line unless you see it in a particular proposal for research project of concern. >> well, senator, i agree exactly with what doctor f auci said. i think there are some experiments that shouldn't he done and that's the intent of the compliance review group looking at the experiments and the pathogens we routinely work with in this sort of threat analysis and characterizations that we do. so we look at these very hard. we make sure that all of them are needed. we make sure we're doing them in the safest possible ways, in the appropriate facilities, but at the end of the day we recognize that national security, homeland security, needs to look at some of these different capabilities and assess what sort of threats they pose. still, we're doing them in the highest containment for the department we do most of our internal work in our facilities, t

as i have said, homeland security begins with hometown security. as part of our commitment, we have work to get information, tools, and resources out of washington d.c. and into the hands of state and local officials. this has led to significant advances. we have made great progress in improving our domestic capability to detect and prevent terrorist attacks. we have increased our ability to analyze and distribute threat information at all levels through fusion centers, the reporting initiative, the national tourism advisory system, and other means. we have invested in training for local law-enforcement and first responders. we have supported prepared this across our country to approximately $35 billion in homeland security grants since 2002. we have proposed important adjustments for 2013 to continue to develop, sustained, and leverage these capabilities. our experience over the past several years has made a smarter about the threats we face and how best to deal with them. we have learned that a vigilant public is essential to prevent acts of terr

to ensure national security, homeland security and that scientific work goes on unfettered. so in that record, we're hopeful. it's a reporting requirement. all departments and agencies are submitting to that. and we have not come up with the next steps so to speak, in trying to finalize the policy. this has generated the incredible discussions across the agency where departments are getting together and discussing how they're handling it. we received several phone calls to see how we were deal iing wi our university grants program and the language that we have inserted that provides us at least a stopgap measure should it be necessary to ensure that publication of certain materials would not proceed. so this has actually been a very positive outcome across the government. >> good. dr. keim, do you anticipate that the nsabb may be asked to help the white house? >> we do whatever the administration asks us to do and nothing they don't. >> good standard. i thank you for that. you want to comment on that? >> if you look carefully at the dirk policy, really the part about within

. >> secretary of homeland security secretary of homeland security janet napolitano visited san jose and sheel attend a town hall with students to talk about expanding hiring. this is video of secretary of homeland security janet napolitano's uc berkeley visit last april and her message it will take a lot to fight cyber crime. >>> fundraising is at the top of the agenda for both president barack obama and mitt romney. the president raised a combined 53 million for his campaign and other campaign related funds in march. he is scheduled to campaign and mitt romney will hold events in pennsylvania. the next ones are in new york, pennsylvania and rhode island. >>> time now 4:49 the senate is scheduled to vote on president barack obama's proposal to increase taxes on millionaires. under the so called buffet rule, people making more than a million a year will pay as much as middle-class families. can'ts will not go up for those making that much. two thirds of mill on airs are needed from republicans. >>> up next, looking into wasteful spending by the general services administration. they a

. >>> secretary of homeland security janet napolitano made a recruiting pitch to students during a visit to san jose state. now at yesterday's town hall, she discussed the importance of keeping cyber space safe. the second says she has seen the threat grow, she encouraged students to continue careers in cyber security. >> we would like to have you join us to make sure our country is as safe as it can be. >> the department of homeland security are teaming up for an intensive camp for 100 students. students will range from forensics to network networking. >>> and meanwhile students interrupted secretary of homeland security janet napolitano's visit and they walked out chanting education not deportation. they are upset about the deportation of students and other immigration laws separating families. >>> the record of the megamillions jackpot why they person will not be allowed take a look at this, solar flair captured on tape. . >>> take a look at this, this is unusual video of a solar flair, erupting off the surface of the sun. they categorized this is the a medium-sized flair. >>> final w

report from december, 2004, that was issued by subcommittee i chaired of the select committee on homeland security, along with the gentlelady from california, ms. lofgren, where we wrote whether it is vulnerability assessments, threat warnings, best practices or emergency response, information sharing with the private sector is critical to securing the united states from cyberattack. that was eight years ago. why has it not occurred? because all the legal obstacles, all the fear of being sued has prevented it from occurring. and that's what this bill does. it clears away the legal underbrush that has prevented the kind of information sharing that people have been talking about for a decade. this is a good, important step. it doesn't solve all the problems, but it puts more information at the disposal of critical infrastructure so that they can be protected. it should be adopted. the chair: the gentleman from maryland. mr. ruppersberger: i have a speaker on the way. mr. rogers, do you have any more speakers? mr. rogers: i do. mr. ruppersberger: i reserve the balance of my time. the chair: the gentl

in china or russia or who knows where and so there sits there saying this is we need to allow homeland security in the national security agency to help companies but nobody's really worried about that but what they didn't address in the floor debate was the information flow in the other direction read literally this would allow. say yahoo to turn over all of the e-mail of its subscribers as long as it was for a cybersecurity purpose i don't think yahoo is going to be in a hurry to do that but the fact that it's permissible those search warrant require no judicial approval no oversight that's what's concerning ok so this just passed the house moments ago do you expect it to pass the senate and look at what do you expect the obama administration to do with it. well first the senate the senate has been where cybersecurity bills go to die for the last few years senator harry reid has been trying to make something happen he's kind of stymied by the sixty vote super majority so it's a safe buy that this is not going to move that quickly in us in the senate and so it gives opponents and proponents som

department of homeland security along with the u.s. immigration and customs enforcement office have placed a large and rather interesting order they've ordered four hundred fifty million rounds of ammunition to be made in the liver to them over the next five years the company alliance tax systems were eighty k. was awarded the contract to manufacture forty caliber ammunition high performance bullets apparently these bullets quote provide optimum penetration for terminal performance our first of the way the tip of the bullet passes through barriers and then expands all the while holding its position not getting ruined so this is interesting because this is not the pentagon making this order for the military it's v.h.s. and ice and they give you a little perspective here there are only about three hundred eleven million people living in the entire country so begs the question why is such a massive order earlier i spoke with david seaman and journalist and host of the d.l. so i asked him why the v.h.s. needs four hundred fifty million hol

you've made today to clarify the roles of the department of defense versus the department of homeland security versus the fbi when it comes to dealing with cyber security. as the discussion today has indicated, i believe there is a lot of confusion over who does what and who should do what, and as you correctly said, this has to be a team approach, and d.o.d., dhs and the fbi have different but complementary roles, so what i would like to do, since based on some of the questioning i heard today, i think there's still a little bit of confusion, is just take you through a series of questions in the hopes of clarifying who does what. first, let me say, do you agree that our critical infrastructure today is not as secure as it should be? >> senator, i do. >> and second, and related to that, several studies and experts have told us on the homeland security committee that critical infrastructure operators are not taking in some cases even the most basic measures such as regularly installing patches or software updates or changing passwords from default settings, and those are pretty basic and known

i thank the subcommittee for the attention this critical homeland security issue, and i'm available for questions. >> thank all the panel members for their discussion. we'll go into a first round of questioning. start off. mr. wright, i know you haven't seen the entire report in your other memorandum, but you've been responding with respect to the discussions to the reports that you have. what is the leaked memo had on the morale of your members? they still have a desire to work for this program? they still think this program is worthy? do they still think this program is workable? >> above all, they think it's worthy and they are ready to move forward. with that being said, there was an aspect of insult to that report. there was an aspect of calling into question capabilities, education, training, and so forth. so there was and still is an aspect of being disrespected. >> mr. scott and mr. allmond, since the leaked memo came out, how has -- if they have, dhs engaged you on the issues that were outlined in the leaked memo? and has there been any suggestion of how you work together to so

secretary of homeland security napolitano says of the 12 secret service personnel implicated in the prostitution scandal, eight have been fired, one is losing security clearance and three cleared of serious misconduct but will face disciplinary action. another big question from the chairman, has this happened before? >> over the past 2 1/2 years the secret service office of professional responsibility has not received any such complaint. >> reporter: speaker boehner weighed in this morning and is taking a hard-line on the incident. >> i think the scandal is a real black mark on the secret service and frankly on our country. >> reporter: secretary 1/2 knapp promises the ongoing investigation which is -- is being supervised by the inspector general, will be thorough. >> we will not allow the acts of a few to tarnish the proud legacy of the secret service. >> reporter: the secretary says agents are trained with a focus on professionalism and high morale standards. she says this investigation will reveal if changes need to be made. >>> federal and state agriculture investigators are testing other co

tough questions today from senator lindsey graham, republican of centimeter to the homeland securityecretary. >> my experience with the secret service is very similar to what senator leahy said. basically it's the time i traveled with senator mccain during the last presidential the election and i'm very impressed by the people, very hard-working, a lot of time away from families and long hours. so just as any time you have military discipline problems you don't want to paint with a broad brush the 99% and let's start with that baseline. >> i concur. >> but just like in the military, and other situation systems obviously filled in and obviously there's a system failure here. the likelihood that this was the first and only time that such behavior occurred, do you think that's great or not so great? >> well, i think part of our investigation is confirming that this was an aberration or not. but i agree with you, senator, the secret service does a marvelous job. i've worked closely with them. >> the only reason i suggest we may need to look harder we're lucky to find out about this. ther

. >>> the secret service is run by the department of homeland security. today homeland security security janet napolitano was in san jose but refused to answer questions about the scandal. instead, secretary napolitano turned her keynote speech at san jose state into a recruiting session of sorts, telling students and homeland security -- that homeland security wants silicon valley talent. >> we are through a workforce initiative hiring a diverse group of cyber security professionals to secure our digital assets, to secure critical infrastructure and resources. that means computer engineers, scientists, analysts, i.t. specialist. napolitano also stressed the importance of her department working with silicon valley companies to share security strategies. >>> while the south bay's newest homeless shelter opened today, it is impressive. five stories, $16.5 million facility which took more than a decade to plan and build. it's also unique because it's the only shelter in the south bay that caters to entire families. monte francis got a tour and joins us with

with the promise of building a new agency dedicated to closing a potential gap in the nation's homeland security network, the storage of mass amounts of hazardous chemicals at chemical facilities. in closing, i have been asked by the workforce to advise you and the american public that the nppd chemical security inspector workforce is qualified, willing, ready, and able to accomplish the critical task of assessing security at the nation's chemical facilities. afg local 918 is repeatedly declared its cooperation to the agency

secretary of homeland security napolitano says of the 12 secret service personnel implicated in the prostitution scandal, eight have been fired, one is losing security clearance and three cleared of serious misconduct but will face disciplinary action. another big question from the chairman, has this happened before? >> over the past 2 1/2 years the secret service office of professional responsibility has not received any such complaint. >> reporter: speaker boehner weighed in this morning and is taking a hard-line on the incident. >> i think the scandal is a real black mark on the secret service and frankly on our country. >> reporter: secretary 1/2 knapp promises the ongoing investigation which is -- is being supervised by the inspector general, will be thorough. >> we will not allow the acts of a few to tarnish the proud legacy of the secret service. >> reporter: the secretary says agents are trained with a focus on professionalism and high morale standards. she says this investigation will changes need to be made. >>> federal and state agriculture investigators are testing other cows that li

here's what the chair of the homeland security committee who has jurisdiction here, peter king had to say. >> my committee, we're going to look into all the details of what happened here, to see whether there should be changes in procedures. >> we'll have more on the secret service scandal later this hour. >>> all right, congress is back in session today and on their immediate to do list is the budget and taxes. at least six committees will begin drafting bills to meet a man dated $261 billion in savings over the next decade. congressman jim clyburn is the assistant democratic leader who has been involved in a lot of these negotiations as a member of the aptly named sue committee. -- >> i want to talk about what's going on on the hill today, the markups of these tax bills that are coming from obviously the house republicans. but we heard a little bit from mitt romney, at least we overheard a little bit from mitt romney about the types of deductions th deductions that he's willing to eliminate, as you just heard from our reporting, deductions on a second home mortgage, deductions for t

they have a plan for that and that is why the department of homeland security has recently stepped up and put out a bid for over four hundred million rounds of forty caliber human shredder ammunition they're going to turn the security apparatus loose on the people of this nation when we are been fully have been out of sight now the pot is completely boiled over absolutely and that the rounds of ammunition are you know in these in these the heat ray in the microwave and i mean that's not going to be used against world that's going to use it and i think. thanks for joining us that was charlie mcgrath founder of right awake news dot com. and while the t.s.a. clamps down on your rights at airports across the country one cybersecurity bill after another continues to come up in congress from sopa. apparently u.s. lawmakers are beginning to understand the importance of the internet in the twenty first century but will some understand how many more doors cyberspace opens up there's always the other side of the coin so is new technology actually raising up our society or dumbing us down or har

they have a plan for that and that is why the department of homeland security has recently stepped up and put out a bid for over four hundred million rounds of the forty caliber human shredder ammunition they're going to turn the security apparatus loose on the people of this nation when we have been truly have no other sign that the pot is completely boiled water absolutely yeah that the rounds of ammunition are you know in these in these the heat ray and i carry a gun i mean that's not going to be used against her world i'm going to use that and then i stuck with that. thanks for joining us that is charlie mcgrath founder of right away to news dot com. america land of the free not when one out of every hundred americans are currently incarcerated in their jail or prison making america the country with the highest incarceration rates in the entire world the us has only five percent of the population it holds one quarter of the world's prisoners even more disturbing than the rates of the imprisoned is the privatization of the industry the expanding prison industrial complex has a vest

a permanent homeland security. our correspondent joins me now. what sort of information are we talking about that will be transferred? >> we are talking about the kind of information that you have to supply to an airline when you fly anyway. quite a long list of details. name, address, phone number, credit card details, your meal preferences, where you are sitting, medical conditions. all of these things are collected by an airline. it supplies a great deal of information about you. this is information that the u.s. department of homeland security has been asking for from the european union for quite some time. it has gotten some of this information on a more provisional basis over the last few years. the parliament has voted on making that formal and legal. many mep's here, although they voted in favor, were doing this reluctantly. >> you listed some of the worries and concerns. how have the members of the parliament managed to have any sort of safeguards or assurances on what this could be used for? >> there are some safeguards here. there is s

homeland security increased cyber security staffing by 500% in the past few years. >>> the recommendation is board up. efforts under way to keep occupy protesters from squatting in vacant buildings. the police department asking property owners to stop demonstrators from entering empty structures. owners are urged to board up, cover up, or fence buildings. the warning after word of a possible takeover of protesters set for may 1st of an undisclosed property. >>> people are starting to recover from devastation in oklahoma today. a sixth person was found dead and dozens more injured after almost 100 tornados ripped through the southern and central plains over the weekend. nbz's jay gray is in woodward as people try to begin the healing process. >> reporter: more than 100 tornados ripped through the heartland this weekend. >> this was a monster system. >> reporter: it did not sit still for long. the storm pushing across the southern and central plains, tearing away anything in its path. >> everything is gone, everything we worked for all our lives. >> reporter: now as survivors sift through p

hi christine well the department of homeland security just to be clear with your viewers consists of the t.s.a. the transportation security administration and immigration services among other divisions so exactly this is not the u.s. military this is the domestic law enforcement agency and the t.s.a. are basically glorified bag screeners and airport screeners that was that was their original congressional mandate was to screen passengers before they go on an airplane so the question the question really is why do they need four hundred fifty million rounds of ammunition and to be fair some people online who don't want to believe what's going on who said that this is just going to be used for target practice or also it could be that the government is simply stockpiling ammunition because they don't want to get into a situation where there's an ammo shortage and our law enforcement officers don't have any ammunition and those are both fair points but that kind of ammo that they purchased from eighty k. hollow point and you dish and as you explained it's designed to tear through human fle

they're the aviation safety and security class, and this is the topic they're on right now, homeland securitynd how we can improve aviation safety, what would make it a little more convenient. some professors said the main topic she addressed was important all students. (tomas kolodziejak) cyber security relates to all the majors, whether you're civil engineering, or business, or even nursing you know, it affects you and we need some it literacy in that sense." the focus of secretary napolitano's visit was about cybersecurity. justin germono has that part of the story. ">>>secretary napolitano received a warm welcome from students, faculty and staff in the engineering building early monday. napolitano often speaks at various college campuses...but san jose state's geographic location made this visit all the more timely and relevant. professor young: "i think it's important, given we are the heart of silicon valley, that she recognized san jose state as one of the larger entities that's dealing with cyber-security" and cyber security is one of napolitano's biggest concerns. napolitano: "threat

homeland security secretary janet napolitano telling the senate judiciary committee president obama's security was not compromised in colombia. >> the misconduct we've heard about, did that pose any risk to the president's security when in colombia or to national security? >> mr. chairman, that was my first question to director sullivan when he called me and the answer is no, there was no risk to the president. >> reporter: napolitano says the homeland security inspector general is supervising the investigation. >> thus far the investigation has implicated 12 secret service personnel. eight individuals are now separated from the agency. the secret service is moving to permanently revoke the security clearance of another and three of the employees involved have been cleared of serious misconduct but will face appropriate administrative action. >> reporter: the secretary is also talking about a facebook photo of sarah palin posted by one of the agents, that agent writing, "i was really checking her out if you know what i mean." >> to the extent there was such a posting, unprofessional a

and the department of homeland security a massachusetts congressman became worked up today on the floor over the proposed law. well let's talk about what this bill would do good company share personal information about consumers with other companies even if information had nothing to do with cybersecurity yes would companies be free from y. ability if they share that personal information of every american you know could the government use personal information despoja on americans yes and while supporters say the legislation is needed to stop cyber espionage the online community is outraged over what the bill kundu citizens online freedoms in the obama administration is now coming out against it here's part of the official statement states quote without clear legal protections and independent oversight information sharing legislation will undermine the public's trust in the government as well as in the internet by undermining fundamental privacy confidentiality civil liberties and consumer protections for the reason stated here and if h r three five two three were presented to the presid

we should work with the homeland security. due out reach to the communities on the process and procedures. many people did not know what the exact requirements for and how it was -- requirements were and how it was going to be implemented. the third thing i would add is, we have to do our best to reach every community by working with the new community groups that have emerged since 1986, to make sure that each community has access to services. although, nationwide, the vast majority of those undocumented are latino. and california, while the majority is latino, california actually has a much larger percentage of non-latinos that are not documented. íx"r>> i was hoping you were gog to ask that question. i am not going to repeat the and of reach, but are finding your networks to get to those hard to reach communities. in san jose we have a somali community, so you can throw money and ethnic media like crazy, it is not going to reach them. it is important to know where these hard-hit communities are. having these networks in plac

here to talk about cyber security but this was also a trip to recruit students. >> reporter: homeland securityretary janet napolitano came to san jose state university today for a town hall meeting on how to make the domain secure. she acknowledged they have their hands full with cyber attacks. >> there is no international environment in which to deal with the activities. there is no u.n. convention on cyber. >> reporter: she made it obvious while the crowd dime see her, she -- came to see her, she came to recruit them into the war. >> we need you. we want you. and we believe that this is a great thing you can contribute to your country. >> reporter: it surprised some students. a few said she hit a cord. >> i think the government's role is to protect us and i think it is our role to tell the government how we need to be protected. >> i would like to look into it and see how i could apply it. >> reporter: he believes many students will respond to the challenge of trying to outthink hackers and terrorists. >> is it possible to perform 9/11 behind a computer. >> reporter: san jose state and the d