the interests of the public in - and i think continuance where i'm removing like commissioner honda stietdz in order for the public to have their interests represented and allow the parties some time to do it right >> i would agree in general if it was truly de facto but it's not de facto. >> why not. >> the parties knows exactly what's going on. i don't see an, an example i would use a slightly different example if someone had a water heater go out you know they leak all over your garage and something goes in for an over the counter that water heater it out. i don't 7, 8, 9 to read into all actions of the city. other things that have their own venues for resolution >> i think normally that thinking surely where the red board has jurisdiction i agree we don't want to step into that roll but we've got a permit and that's the most compelling to hear if mr. duffy and mr. sanchez about what they would like to see and haven't seen it's clear what is intended by this. that's - i don't know if continuance i don't know what others think about continuance >> continuance to the call of the chair unti