if our border is that porous, and isis -- we know they have the capability to get to mexico, hondur honduras, central america. what's there to stop them? >> remember, isis is making a million a day, at least a million in office revenues, so they have the money to do that. mexican car tells, all they care about is money so the possibility that isis will give money to car tells to help them is very likely. cia estimates now now that isis has about 20 to 31,000 members. the members continue to -- every time they have a bit of success. all you need is one of these people to cross the border to inflict harm, and we have an open border to do that. >> jim, you have to admit the border is so porous, they told al baghdadi said in new york when we left them go in the middle east. >> i disagree that the border is so porous, didn't you also tell james o'keefe to stop, enough was enough. >> i said you made a great point, i wasn't sure you needed to use osama bin laden. to mial apologies to mr. o'keefe, because we have the undersecretary saying, yeah there is a chatter. >> building a border fence that's b

. >> rosidel parafino age 24 from hondur honduras. >> leslie esmeralda ferafino, age 27 from honduras, from honduras. byron abner acevedo, 18, from byron abner acevedo, 18, from guatemala. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> desperate pleas to spare the life of this british man, held by islamic militants. alan henning's wife and friends speak out. >>> a second security incident at the white house. and troubling new information about friday's security breach. >>> also the devastating impact of climate change on an oyster farmer. as global marches to save the planet are set to get under way. >>> hello and welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm natalie allen. one week after isis fighters threatened to kill british aid worker alan henning his wife, friends, and even several muslim leaders are pleading for