so also peer surveillance among hong kongers-— also peer surveillance among hong kongers.ong kongers. so the city there will be given authority to - hong kongers. so the city there will be given authority to ban i will be given authority to ban organisations from operating hong kong if they should be found, quote, working for foreign forces. can you tell us what you think that means? what would be considered a foreign force? ., . , would be considered a foreign force? ., ., , , , , force? for example, myself, my bounty was _ force? for example, myself, my bounty was also _ force? for example, myself, my bounty was also based _ force? for example, myself, my bounty was also based on - bounty was also based on colluding with forces and what i've done was just talking to international nonprofits are in the world, talking to congress and the us government about what we can do for hong kong. so in the future, once article 23 is enacted, this saturday, i imagine hong kongers would have to be even more careful about engaging with foreigners, and that includes international nonpro

it is the hong kongers, the ukrainians, the angle of tarmac afghans, the gaps we need to fill in sociale and schools, it is a much bigger problem than many voters could possibly appreciate. do the conservatives have a plan? they accuse labour of not having a plan. they have a plan of the specific issue? the? not having a plan. they have a plan of the specific issue?— of the specific issue? they have a lan, but of the specific issue? they have a plan. but it _ of the specific issue? they have a plan, but it runs _ of the specific issue? they have a plan, but it runs up _ of the specific issue? they have a plan, but it runs up against - of the specific issue? they have a plan, but it runs up against all. plan, but it runs up against all sorts of problems. it runs up against pressure particularly from the health service in the care sector to allow them, the workers they cannot recruit from the population already here on these islands. it runs up against a political question. the focus is on the drama of the small boats, but frankly this is hideously embarrassing for the prime minister, hid

accused of breaking article 23 so really expanded the legal ground for the government to criminalize hong kongersor having connection to the outside world so that will change the future for them forever. nick: the law was necessary, they say, because it will make the city safer and because this ends the risk of violence in hong kong. what do you say to that? anna: we are all very clear about where the violence is in hong kong. it is from the hong kong police force and i definitely do not think that, you know, article 23 is actually addressing what they want to address but that, i think it is their way to please the beijing government and also to really doubled down on the global authoritarian expansion that the chinese communist party has been conducting everywhere in the world including in taiwan , including in southeast asia and many other countries. nick: so many pro-democracy demonstrators are already in prison. could article 23 be applied retroactively and actually extend their sentences longer? nick: it is the -- anna: it is the same as the national security law even though the government c

paul the story in the sunday telegraph makes me think that catholic hong think that the catholic hong kongersssing sins to confessing their secret sins to alexa, alexa , which we all alexa, to alexa, which we all know is listening to us anyway, and it back to the and feeding it back to the chinese. i don't anyone chinese. i don't think anyone is surprised by this, but hong kong clergy fear beijing to say it as racist. hong i'm not going to at all hong kong clergy fear beijing could bug confessional. so concerns grow that new legislation known as article 23 and of course, being introduced into hong kong, which is now, of course, part of china, threatens priests who fail to report dissent in among their flocks. so i mean, china is an authoritarian dictatorship in much the same way scotland is under the snp , and this is the under the snp, and this is the sort of thing that's happening in scotland at the moment. so but this is obviously going to affect the, christian affect the, the, the christian population here. this it's population here. this is it's a big deal for them, i think. so christian

so this is also applicable to all the other hong kongers, not just myself. ong kong as well, because as i have mentioned just now, as long as you are criticising the hong kong , you are kong government, you are violating a law. that's violating such a law. so that's why is very, very ambiguous. why it is very, very ambiguous. >> may i ask you , why did you >> may i ask you, why did you choose to be an advocate? why did you not choose a quiet life? you could be living quietly in hong kong. you could have said nothing at all. but you've chosen to be an advocate, which has your life has obviously affected your life enormously you've enormously, because you've had to of abode. and to move your place of abode. and you're in a certain amount of dangen you're in a certain amount of danger, as you say. why did you make choice? danger, as you say. why did you ma well, choice? danger, as you say. why did you ma well, choiyas so many >> well, same as so many different people. used work different people. i used to work for the construction industry, different people. i u

coronavirithe good thing >> well, the good thing about hong that load of hong hong kong is that a load of hong kongersre. that's true. the best true. and that is the best import we will have ever had. they will generate and they will generate money. and not their mates, not only that, their mates, right, will give them money which not allowed to which they're not allowed to ship out china to come over ship out of china to come over here. and they will invest in businesses, property. businesses, invest in property. and the greatest import and that is the greatest import we will have. >> yeah we are. and i mean, it's there's two chinese nationals that have been sanctioned and one minor chinese one relatively minor chinese company for the for the small price of 40 million of us having our details hacked by beijing. so cheers, oliver dowden, thank you very much, mate . that'll do nicely. >> he makes himself look an idiot. >> an absolute idiot makes the government look an idiot. >> he just as well say nothing. >> he just as well say nothing. >> all right, now look elsewhere. a new elsewhere. a shocking new

was massively in the ukrainians and in favour of the ukrainians and the kongers coming here. the hong kongers you would say no to all them well. all of them as well. >> no, i wouldn't actually >> well, no, i wouldn't actually not that scenario. not in that scenario. >> so changing your opinion? >> so changing your opinion? >> at all. because >> no, not at all. because that's grounds. >> didn't say religious >> you didn't say religious grounds. said you you grounds. you said you said you said asylum so, you said no asylum seekers. so, you know, to those people that came here, watched film the here, you watched this film the other about about about other day about about about about jewish immigrants about the jewish immigrants dunng about the jewish immigrants during the second world war. yeah, we only about 300 of them in that's i think it was 600 odd, but but you would turn those away from people that were escaping the persecution like that. think that is a deeply that. i think that is a deeply selfish nasty way to selfish and nasty way to approach selfish and nasty way to appdo ch what i can