and a biography of hoover, which might sound misleading, humbert hoover fishermen president. it is a unique takeout talking about hoover, and documents all the places he's traveled throughout the country to go fishing. you can check all of those out during the break, and also at the end of the conference. actually during the break, because the gift shop closes at 4:30. the program contains the order of presentations, the abstract of the presentations and short biographies of the speakers. you can all read that on your own, i will just briefly introduce the order of the speakers and let them do the talking. george h. now, merry elizabeth cox, a brief 15-minute break we'll follow and then when the conference presumes are trench at a new, they will examine the poster art created for food relief efforts, the conference concludes with all the speakers on stage, to field questions from one another, and the audience, i hope you will complete a survey before you leave, and tell us how we did, that will be in the lobby. at this time, as a courtesy to the speakers, and others in the au

those were hoover's words. it was a story, he feared, that was being lost to history. 100 years after the end of world war i, it seems his fear is realized. few americans have more than a hazy awareness of the first world war. let alone the american epic. in part, this is due to the understandable tendency of historians to focus on the war's battles and tangled state craft, not on individuals like hoover who used the suffering of helpless noncombatants. moreover the coming in 1939 of the second and more horrific world war has further attenuated our collective memory of the conflict, in which hoover's role was so noted and admired. for the commission for the relief in belgium was more than a minor incident or episode in that conflict. t was a pioneering effort in global philanthropy was long-term consequences for the western world. hoover's relief endeavors were part of the vast network of transnational organizations with which we are familiar today. groups like save the children. doctors without borders and wor

hoover said no. in the mineral -- the middle of this process, norman davis walked into roosevelt's -- eleanor roosevelt's bedroom, and eleanor said, do you think mr. hoover will accept our proposal? norman davis said, there is a real possibility. then he walked into roosevelt's bedroom, sat down, and roosevelt -- and said, don't do it. it was the end of any possibilities to do that. theng the same period, polish and basset are to the united states approached hoover on the 18th and set, -- and said, what about some relief? i'm probably not going to get much from the roosevelt administration. administration had decided just before war broke out to support the neutrality laws that had been passed and to offer limited aid, emergency aid. hoover had already talked about, if the war would start, there should be food through a blockade. there should be no aerial bombing of cities. was thever argued for moral conduction of war based on the team and convention -- the geneva convention and the hague convention

in need than herbert hoover. his major humanitarian efforts span a half-century, so this conference offers a foretaste of a much broader topic. we are particularly grateful for to c-span for recording this conference for later broadcast. the hoover presidential foundation provided financial support for the conference and all of today's events at the library and museum. their ongoing support makes possible all the exhibits, education programs and other -- and public programs we offer. i hope you will pick up a membership brochure in the lobby and consider joining if you're not already a member. please take time to enjoy our temporary exhibit, collaborating collectors. this exhibit highlights the vast collecting activities of herbert hoover over the course of their lives and global travels. i hope you will join us after conference to a reception where we can meet and chat with the speakers. we are fortunate to have many of herbert and lou hoover's descendents with us today would members of the hoover family please

hoover. from up here, it may not be as easy to see. it is herbert hoover. think about it, the urals, who had some mining interests there before the war, all of those contacts were broken off. the rumors that hoover was there trying to revive business was nonsense. -- were nonsense. but hoover's image in that photo in particular shows up in many background offices. the reason i like that is the chief is there right above these tremendous totals. yeah. in fact, and this is what i will end with, researching the a.r.a. records -- and i started doing this in 1987, and so my image of herbert hoover was of the other herbert hoover. i kept thinking herbert hoover, the post-presidency. i didn't really have a strong sense of how hoover related to or how the people who worked under him related to him. reading the records, reading the private letters, the diaries of the americans who served, you get a sense of their ferocious feeling of loyalty toward hoover. they would follow him into any battle, right?

ironic, isn't it, that this document is in the collection of hoover, fdr and hoover were not allies,in a landslide beat who were in his reelection campaign. once the new deal went into play. molly changed his mind about it, he said he resigned his position at fdr and became friends with hoover. he decided he would just donate his collection to the hoover library and archives, not only did he do that, he decided he would annotated it as well, you can see he has written stuff in the margin, it's an incredibly valuable historical document. the archives here at hoover have a wealth of material, one of the most well-known documents related to that is this, which is the original -- hiroshima. as you can see this, if you look closely, you can see staple marks in the top corners. this was actually hanging in the mess hall, in the morning of the attack, this is how the pilots knew that today was the day that the attack would be carried out. well they didn't want everyone to know, and so the bomber on here is listed as special. this document comes from the collection of a gentleman named bag k

those were hoover's words.it was a story that was being lost to history. 100 years after the end of world war one it seems that his fear has been realized, feel americans have more than a hazy awareness of the first world war, let alone of oversaw american epic, and part of this is due to the understandable tendency of historians to focus on terrible battles and tangled state craft, not on the individuals like hoover who east the suffering of helpless non combatants. the coming in 1939 of a second and even more horrific world war as further attenuated our collective memory of the earlier conflict. in which movers role was so notable and so required. but if the passage of time and the conventions of academic historiography have dimmed our consciousness of the humanitarian response to the great war of 1914 our conference today provided opportunity for reappraisal. for the work of the commission for relief and belgium and its successors was more than a minor incident or episode in that conflict. it was a pioneerin

hoover realized that.lthough officially his response responsibility to care for germany was no longer there, he recognized that they needed to have food. another part of the story. there were lots of german-americans living in the united states. they received letters from loved ones about how bad it was in germany. there was animosity understand understandably that many felt toward the united states, or at least it was perceived by many. what hoover did is he moved away from some of these a-groups that were german-american based or that sounded anti-american. he asked the newly founded american friends service committee which started in 1917, if they would be the face of u.s. aid to germany. this was strategically brilliant because the quakers in the united states do not and did not stem from germany. they came from englund. there pacifists. by putting a quaker face on u.s. aid, rather than frustrated or angry german americans, this made the cause much bigger than just the german-american group. he was abl

i have never seen so many hoovers in one place.

so herbert hoover. george did a great job discussing the institutions. , especiallytates after we joined the war but also before was able to increase agricultural production many fold. too lily wheat and pork. sold a lot of food to our allies. allowed the armies to continue fighting. the slogan, food will when the war is something uber -- hoover made popular. he also instigated meatless days and certain days we can only eat certain things. this is all geared at increasing the supply of food that could be shipped to europe. when the war ended, we had a surplus. i cannot say we because you quit french listening to this. -- you could be french listening to this. [laughter] when the war ended we had a surplus of food that needed to be sold or given away. of this, this is something i found in birmingham. this is not herbert hoover but the idea of charity is spread throughout. it was important because there were different ideas in terms of who should get a first. especially following the war, there were lots

as part of that story, i'll be disgusting herbert hoover and some of the things he did to alleviate the suffrage in germany which had been a big enemy and ally of the united states. for me, one of the things i enjoyed so much of my research is seeing his compassion for people that were very unpopular and were ready to encourage others to feel that same compassion and safe ability in life. here's the book i'm, going to start by telling you about something about the british blockade. right when the war started the british government started the introduction of goods and they have a strict legal meaning but this blockade and in many things between that included food and also fertilizer. since then, over the past century the scholars have discussed this and they say a blockade had no impact whatsoever and other scholars who argue that it had a huge impact on germany and what i did was wanted to ask a question about what was the administration like in germany and this debate that's gone on began much earlier so this is a little uncomfortable starting with this propaganda for the crown of kin

when roosevelt beat hoover, hoover's vice president was an indian, charles curtis, senator from kansas ran as hoover's vice president so you have an indian -- i mean native american as vice president and the first woman in congress as a republican so roosevelt is wanting to break them because republicans want limited government and lots of opportunity. immigrants and others come over and we want to minimize barriers so they can participate in the american economy and roosevelt is practicing identity politics. we pick groups, try to get their votes with money. i'm exaggerating but it is like farmers over there, let's wheel the truck load of dollars over there and just drop. that is the farm vote. now wield the truck over to unemployed and we will try to get those votes and try to put together a coalition to win elections. obviously roosevelt is saying the blacks are in the republican party and roosevelt says maybe i can change it. roosevelt was not in a great position to change it. the staff at the white house was segregated. that had been traditional so i don't want to put that on roos

when roosevelt beat hoover, hoover's vice president was an indian. charles kurtis. senator from kansas, ran then as hoovers' volunteer. i mean a native american as a vice president, and you had the first woman in congress is a republican and roosevelt's wanting to break that because republicans tend to say we want limited government, and therefore we want lots of opportunity and so migrants and others come over and we want to minimize barriers so theying can participate in the american economy and benefit from the freedom that its so special with the united states. roost is practicing identify politics where we pick groups, try to get their votes with movement i'm exaggeration but there are farmers over there, let's wheel the truckload of dollars therefor and drop it. okay, now that's the farm vote now. wheel the truck over to unemployed dump it and put together a coalition to win elected. obviously roosevelt is sitting there saying, well the blacks are in the republican party and roosevelt says, yeah, but maybe i can change it. maybe i can change it. roosevelt was

and we would not, as we will be doing next week, be talking about hoover bills and president hoover taking responsibility for the depression, but in fact that did not happen. he ran for president in 1928 against al smith, the new yorker, and he defeated al smith, who was the first catholic to run for president. during the terms of these three presidents, the country was disillusioned by the war. remember this was the war to save democracy. this was the war to end all wars. and but people, many people vented their frustration and their anger on antisocial acts and legislation. it was a time when traditional values were shattered, but new standards had not yet emerged. a case in point for example was the scopes trial, john scopes, when he faced william jennings bryan, and the issue was scopes teaching evolution in a tennessee public school. it was actually against the law. and william jennings bryan defended a literal interpretation of the bible against evolution. and actually, william jennings bryan won that, and john scopes had in fact violated the law by teaching evolution. the decade beg

a forgotten visitor was j edgar hoover. 1936, flew in from cleveland, 4:00 in the morning, arrived at this location. at that time there would have been a row of apartment buildings behind me. hoover kicked the door down and arrested america's most wanted criminal, harry campbell. put them in the car, drove them back to the

harding, coolidge and hoover. controlled the presidency from 1921 until 1933, from theess from 1918, 1918 election until 1930. was an era ofit laissez-faire. in other words, give business a free hand. that might be surprising to you, because we had discussed the progressive era, when there were a great many, there was a federal trade commission, there were other commissions to control business. those the 1920's, commissions were manned by people from the industry, so they were not doing much controlling. ourrnationally, we cut commitments abroad, beginning with the failure of the senate to ratify the league of nations, wilson's league of nations. please two policies -- of these two policies taken together, oursez-faire and reluctance to take our place in the world even though we had emerged from world war i as the most powerful nation, would prove disastrous, to the united states and to the world in the 1930's. words me just say a few about each of the presidencies, beginning with warren harding. i think the best

hoover wanted nothing to do with it. in 1936, toledo was coming out of a period where they had just seen a gang come down from detroit and try to take over toledo in the early 1930's. you had a brewery owner who was killed, that brought in the law, and things quieted down. 1936, the late 1930's, toledo was relatively quiet, but still a town where a lot of people were paid off, a good place to come and stay under the radar if you were wanted somewhere else. so campbell was probably pretty sharp, coming here. he was able to stay out of everybody's way for quite a while. >> they call it the snake on the lake, because it is very gerrymandered. from the heart of toledo, to the heart of cleveland, our district skirts the entire southern rim of lake erie. toledo is the glass city. we have companies that range from libbey glass to first solar, so heritage companies and part of america's rising sun. right here, birthed in this community. we are not a capital city. we had to earn our way forward, largely through private enterprise

those limitations did not exist until after j edgar hoover died.the only comprehensive examination of our intelligence agency to find that abuse the effort was to limit those powers but instead the attorney general step forward to say i will issue guidelines and just like those reforms were intended with no reasonable indication of activity but because those attorney general guidelines they can modify them and most do and they have moved somewhat stronger and after 9/11 ashcroft significantly loose and the guidelines and then again in 2008 under kc they were extensively rewritten to the point where now under the guidelines they can conduct an investigation with no factual basis that anybody has committed a crime. these can be very intrusive not just physical surveillance but subpoenas for telephone records subscriber information recruitment and tasking of informants to recruit somebody to infiltrate your group without believing anybody has done anything wrong. they are not bound by the law. >> fbi leadership is invoked through diversity but the bur

up votes for borisjohnson could potentially hoover up votes for boris johnson in could potentially hooveris queen's speech as his route to a general election and he would hope to an election victory. we have talked about crunch weeks for a long time but this really is it, the big eu summit is coming up, if there is going to be a deal, it must be this week. i have barred myself from saying crunch week or date, but it is hard to see super saturday any other way, it goes two ways, either borisjohnson other way, it goes two ways, either boris johnson returns in other way, it goes two ways, either borisjohnson returns in triumph with a deal, garlands of olives thrown at his feet, he emerges as the man who delivered brexit. more likely, it is impossible to get a deal over the line, which means we are back facing our old friend, mr delay. on the question is whether boris johnson's delay. on the question is whether borisjohnson's do—or—die delay. on the question is whether boris johnson's do—or—die pledge means politically, he dies, or, whether he can survive a delay by blaming it on parliament o

guys gap, liberty gap and hoover gap. that is the highland rim and they are 500 to 900 feet and very steep and can only be crossed by those three gaps. there is one all weather road that runs out of murray addressboro and today -- murfreesboro and today it is u.s. 41. south out of murfreesboro and done to manchester and southeast toward chattanooga. that is the ground that we will be fighting over. what bragg has done is deployed his arm to cover the gaps with infantry and extend the cavalry several directions. forrest and wheeler will be to the west along the duck river and toward columbia. in the northeast area between woodbury and the top right-hand corner is john hadn't morgan. until -- john hunt morgan. when he embarks on a raid into kentucky and will disobey orders and go into indiana and ohio. he will disappear right before the campaign starts and rosecrans has been waiting for that so he can make a move. polk's karps will be near guys gap. hardee will be around beach grove and fairfield. claiborne's division will

hoover was not happy. mr. hoover had gone to members of the congress and said, look, the secret service enabled them. the secret service did not protect president kennedy. i attribute to rufus that secret service continued their protection. i also should tell you the secret service of that era was a relatively small group. today it is a very, very large group of people with international offices and an amazing technology that time. he played an incredible part of american history, white house history. i frankly do not know that the secret service would exist today. and i say this has firsthand knowledge. i'm not sure it would exist today without rufus youngblood. rebecca: that'll work. [applause] >> i'm curious to know what gravitated your father into the line of work of being a secret service agent. since he was formally trained as an industrial engineer, can you expand upon that? rebecca: he did go through the training. the security training. he was a gunner in world war ii. i think they have such a combined

welcome to the herbert hoover presidential library museum.ne of 14 operated by the national archives and records of administration. i am tom schwartz, the director. we are about to hear four very thoughtful and stimulating presentations on herbert hoover's various humanitarian efforts. we are in the midst of centennial observances of his many food relief efforts beginning in 2014 with the commission for relief in belgium, 2019, with the american relief administration efforts,

i would suggest that the fbi that most people know and expect is the post hoover fbi. carl: you came in 1996. these types of activities, you saw nothing of, they were done? mr. mccabe: absolutely. there are certainly activities that the fbi engages in that some people don't approve of, but they are nevertheless lawful and closely scrutinized by the courts and congress. hoover basically cut political deals with enemies and foes alike and use the agency essentially to the aggregation of his own power. that is not the fbi that i know. carl: the mueller investigation. did the final report itself fall short of the maximum use of what information was developed by the fbi and other investigators, and was there something in the way though report was written or assembled that accounts for what i and other reporters were told a few weeks before the report, the quote that i was given was that fbi senior officials and prosecutors under mr. mueller were demoralized by the final stages of the process, and by what was going into the report -- were you aware of that? mr. mccabe: i can

and i would suggest that the fbi that most people know and expect is the post hoover fbi. >> you came in 1996. >> i did, did, yes. >> and these types of activities, you saw nothing of. they were done by the time you got there? >> that would have been -- there are certain activities the fbi engages in that some people don't approve of, don't support, but they are nevertheless, lawful and closely scrutinized by the courts and congress. so the fbi of old were hoover basically cut political deals with enemies and foes alike and used the agency essentially to his own, to the aggregation of his own power is not the fbi that i know. >> the mueller investigation, did the final report itself fall maximum use of what information was developed by the fbi and other investigators? and was or something in the way that the report was written or assembled that accounts for what i and other reporters were told a few weeks before the report was released that, quote, that i was given was that fbi senior officials and prosecutors under mr. mueller were demoralized by the final stages of the process? and

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herbert herbert hoover is the first one to be moved.ans he wore and president trump was cleared in 2007 and then jered in 2008. >> the president of the united states. tim naftali is a presidential historian. amy bass. welcome to both of you. out of the gate, what did you hear when you heard the boos and a chants of "lock him up." >> it was a rare moment that we've seen a crowd that the president hasn't vetted to react to him. people were brought together to watch a baseball game and it helped people shed identities that might keep them apart and they had something they were unified about last night and they used constitutional rights to express that. >> chris coons actually said this -- >> i have a hard time with the idea of a crowd on a globally televised sporting event chanting "lock him up" about our president. i frankly think the office of the president deserves respects even when the actions of our president at times don't. i certainly hope that we won't hear lock him up chants at democratic rallies or at our convention. >> does he

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state market california legislators recently passed senate $85.00 which would effectively deprive hoover and feel good employers such as door dash lift and task rabbit of the defense to power to deny that their workers are employees under the law and thereby avoid the costs and obligations that many other labor seeking bosses have to work incur hoover works out will compete with existing products from fiber and upward. there's been some drama in europe over race while the brags that sideshow goes on with no end in sight so here to catch us up with her takes on the e.u. and the u.k. is hell a for which the 4 member of the british american business association so hillary let's start at the e.c.b. the e.c.b. is changing one of their basic elements of their policy apparatus with the new version of their benchmark short term interest rate in the wake of this huge scandals surrounding the fixing of the key libel rate so what do we need to know about the new esther well the yes sir is the euro short term right and that's really i mean it's been hailed by many as being far more plex flexible and

. >> very hoover ask - - like hoover and we that those days were over. but it all the dossier that we read about and watched the in-depth reporting, all the work that hillary clinton campaig campaign, the deep state that we have come to know, is there any truth to any of these things that donald trump had any illegal actions with russia? are there any truth in the dossier? or are they just embarrassing. >> all of the collusion allegations in the dossier turned out to be untrue. you can read that volume one of the mueller report. the fbi created a spreadsheet of all the collusion allegations and it turned out empty. they cannot corroborate or prove anything. ask christopher steele the author said the information he wrote is unverifiable because it came from multiple anonymous hearsay. generally that is not allowed in a court of law, double hearsay is never allowed. and this was double and triple hearsay. >> and we learned with testimony and the e-mails passed along within the fbi that he himself from these characters in the obama administration was deemed

kennedy airport in new york city but will demand for the hoover copter ever get off the ground. many commuters and travelers have been turning to ride sharing companies to save money or for convenience now they can escape the gridlock on the ground by taking to the air tuber technologies is hoping to fill a market niche in new york city with helicopter rides to and from john f. kennedy airport. you know we look at where there's demand we do a lot of trips to the airport from manhattan right now and so 'd we know there's a there's a lot of demand to get from manhattan to j.f.k. and and back both ways and so we think this is a perfect opportunity to really provide value to our riders in a way to get to j.f.k. even faster than they can now. claims the service is intended to reduce travel time but one reporter said a trip from midtown to the airport took 70 minutes including a subway and then nuber ride somewhere to the travel time for a car in moderate traffic. or hopes its new service will help pave the way for goober air a taxi service of electric vertical takeoff and landing air

destination where the once you can kind of pull all that together and we're uniquely positioned as hoover to basically solve that really complex problem the helicopter service isn't for bargain hunters the roughly 8 minute flight will cost between 20225 dollars one way but that does include ground transportation. the german entrepreneur and uganda is on a. to change the way people get from a to b. instead of relying on gas make use of green generated electricity is in bow electric bike is on trial in the capital kampala a motorbike taxis a popular as the quickest means of public transport. it appears like the usual motorbike in kampala bikes note until it gets close and you can hear the engine running not just any physical gas emissions in t.v. it's very different from the other one's course because the other one 1st of all you have to buy fuel. to use it secondly you have to buy it for you. to use it. i've been costly as covered over 20000 kilometers as part of simple bikes which testing in the last 6 months i just need my monthly to be fully charged to move. i conserve or not to money w

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tonight, biographer george nash recalls the work done by herbert hoover who saved millions of lives and set the stage for the white house run and this begins a night of programs from a conference on hoover's humanitarian efforts as presidential library and west branch, iowa is the host of this event and you can see it on c-span3 and enjoy american history tv every weekend also on c-span3. and this week we're showing you book tv programs and show casing what's available every weekend on c-span 2. tonight the theme is national defense and general james mattis recalls his military career and offers thoughts on leadership and calls on chaos. then ashton carter, another former defense secretary talks about his work on working in the pentagon, inside the five-sided box. and eyes in the sky, journalist arthur holland michelle reports on the pentagon's aerial surveillance system, and that's tonight beginning at 8:00 eastern on c-span2 and enjoy book tv every weekend also on c-span2. >>> i saw things about president trump's leadership trial that i had never seen in the fbi. i saw the way that hi

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cnn senior political analyst john avalon is here and commentator margaret hoover.orked in the bush white house. this is different than what you saw in your experience. >> just a little bit. >> just a little bit different. but the fact that we have the ig for the intelligence community appointed by the president twice yesterday in realtime fact checking the president because of false claims he and his allies spew, what does that tell you about where we are? >> did "the new york times" a favor. two more lies they don't have to fact checked. look. what is it? there's nothing -- this is a developing story and more every day. the things that we saw on the twitter feed yesterday a check mark of three big news events. happy monday. we have gotten used to it. your job is to cover it an ento make sure that the american people know that this isn't normal, not normalize it. we have to understand that it is not normal for a president of the united states to use the power and the trust of the american people to leverage american foreign policy towards his own political ambition

intentionally leaks certain parts of the transcript to friendly moneys of press who suck it up like a hoovere. i think it is a mistake to close the hearings off from the american people and so they can't judge the evidence. i believe that democracy dies in darkness. there are no opposing witnesses. if your a member of the committee, you don't get access to all of the documents. the president's counsel with not be there. the president's counsel cannot -- >> but it is -- that is what this trial will be for in the senate. the trial in the senate, that is when the president's counsel will be there and opposing witnesses will be there. and let me ask you, because we're running out of time. but the senate intelligence committee run by your colleague republican senator richard burr also has a great many hearings and depositions completely in private. completely in private. >> that's true. that's true. >> and democrats are allowed to participate -- >> that is the information -- they are dealing with classified information. >> not everything -- >> almost all of it is. there is no -- there is no class