hoover's body. the hoover family and very closest friends are walking down the steps of the ramp, to be greeted by the governor. very slowly the big cargo plane, very slowly rose up to its destination. a point on the runway about three feet ahead of it where it now stands. family and close friends now walking directly toward us escorted by an army officer and governor hughes. the entire group of close friends and relatives now moving into position directly in front of us, between us and the big airplane that carries the former president's body. thcolor guards have arrived from the aircraft carrying mr. hoover's body. on one side of the flag a sailor carrying an m1 rifle, on the other side a marine, appears to be carried by an army enlisted man, ruffles and flourishes and hail to the chief. the first division and now fight the good fight. as the coffin burying his body will be removed from the airport. pallbearers appearing now, slowly marching down the ramp. under the apron. 8 members of the united

there is hoover family mr. and mrs. johnson in the center, with the hoover family close behind. people from across the rounds there in front of east front of the the capitol watching. little girl with flowers. inside of entrance procession continued to the rotunda, hoover family and civilian leaders watched and natural color detail, clermy verge -- clergy and personal flag bearer, accompanied the casket to the retundra. once the flags were posted. the body bearers were dismissed after a salute. once they departed the reverend frederick harris chaplain of the senate delivered a a short eulogy addressing mr. hoover's humanitarian work and his strong unbending unblemished character. then president johnson placed a wreath at the base of lincoln -- and bowed his head. there is a press photo. another one. chaplain lieutenant aims, pronounced the benedict. and concluded the rotunda ceremony.ar after the departure of family, the rotunda was open to public from 3 p.m. to 9 p.m. on october 24. rotunda opened again. over two days approximately 30 thousand people filed past the hoover caske

hoover's body.nd his family and very closest friends are walking down the steps and being greeted there by governor harold coombs. very slowly the big cargo plane, very slowly moves up to its destination. a point on the runway about three feet ahead of it where it now stands. the flag for the other side of the marine. and appears to be carried by an army.. ♪ ♪ >> color guard of the american flag ♪ down from the islands and as the funeral party now approaches, the west branch location and the miers, members to thehe official funerl the people and the friends of herbert hoover great and small have come out to show them within the hour of this scene has is the floral tribute brought here to the west branch site and chief among them is the pen of the united states. a wreath with red, white and blue carnations and it's very difficultwi to establish the sie of the crowd baa it is very, very large here . i look to the west and i see there are also lined up people behind the fence, behind the military corde

presentation is called hoover's last trip home. our speaker, lynn smith, the audiovisual archivist at the previous work experience includes serving as government documents u.s. forest service. she is holding a da in history in northern colorado and archival management from harada state university university of denver. chaired the committee on ethics and capital right law, archives and society of rocket mountains. secretary of the academy in the archives conference. she has collected some great stories and h audio files t share. here on the 25th so thank you for joining us. >> thank you for your kind introduction, brad. i want to maker note this marks the second year and am happy to be part of what will be next year. also, tober 27 is world day for visual heritage. the coordinating council of archives association for institutions regarding our heritage for future generations so was able to have this production of what happened after october 20 when he died. a combination of photos from press, local residents and all kinds of media a

edgar hoover appeared. what made you want to revisit hoover and how does your account of him depart from those of previous biographers. well it's wonderful to be here and to see so many people out there and course to be getting this exciting prize. it's especially meaningful to me because i was a graduate student here at columbia, and this is i first encountered j. edgar hoover when i was writing my dissertation, which looked at the early 20th century, a period before he was fbi director, nonetheless ran into him, a very young man in doing that research. and a couple of things struck me in that moment that made me think i wanted to move on and do a biography. so one was that in that previous book, which was about anti radical and political violence, the teens and early twenties in the u.s., he was there is a very young man already learning to do many of the things that he was going to go on expand dramatically forms political surveillance in particular. and he was already articulating a set of ideas that we

jon edgar hoover. in their journeys all three overcome substantial opposition to varying degrees of popular support for their cause. will find their goals undermined by bitter ironies and also by painful betrayals and self betrayals perhaps the greatest talents all three historians here share is extraordinary sensitivity. the way to make profound points about their subjects with close attention to private details. it is there the very moment calvin coolidge appointed a 29-year-old edgar hoover as director of the bureau of investigation was still living with his mother kissing her good slnight, going to sleep linda's childhood bedroom feeding is table scraps to his beloved puppy speedy bozo it's there to of the ambitious young radical journalist time in san antonio. as one good suit felt the tatters from overuse he got in theng habit of backing out of rooms during his public appearances to avoid turning around to rebuild the seat of his pant was covered in patches. there to when depicts the far more har

hoover very helpful to coolidge. hoover helped coolidge defeat hiram militant progressive in the 1924 california republican primary. what johnson was challenging coolidge and hoover sided with with coolidge. their big point of agreement was the on relief legislation. they objected to something called mcnary hogan ism legislation, and hoover actually as secretary of commerce helped write coolidge's veto of at least one of those two bills. so they had points of agreement. but hoover got on coolidge's nerves and it could go on and on about that and somewhat in annoyance late in the time, despite their term correctness in terms of their dealings with each other, hoover was a and coolidge called him the wonder boy and famously said, and everyone in this audience probably knows it. it was at the time of the just before the convention of 28, and someone went to coolidge, said, can you say something favorable about farm reform? long hoover's lines. and coolidge said, that man has given me unsolicited advice for six years. al

- [hoover] including villain bernie madoff. offscreen, dreyfus is focused on a real-world problem, america's failing grade at civics. - there is no defense of republican democracy going o in public schools. - [hoover] and what that means for our future. - i think we're in the end game right now. we could let slip the greatest idea for governance ever devised. - [hoover] plus, he's not afraid to call out the problems he sees in hollywood. - we're going through this strange need to not create, but to create sequels. sequels are death. - [hoover] what does richard dreyfuss say now? - [announcer 1] firing line with margaret hoover is made possible in part by: robert granieri, vanessa and henry cornell, the fairweather foundation, the tepper foundation, the asness family foundation, the mckenna family foundation, charles r. schwab, and by the rosalyn p. walter foundation, and damon button. - richard eyfus. - hi. - welcome to firing line. [dreyfuss laughing] - it's been years. i've wanted this for so long. [dreyfuss and hoover laughi

hoover was so i'm from the hoover institution, so i have to speak a little ill of the namesake he was famous for being mr. fix it. he made his he went in and kind of a command control guy and he solved the belgian famine during the first world war. and his attitude was mr. fix it and roosevelt was similarly ideologically i'm in there to to do great things, not to keep the institutions going within my constitutional limits like that, there's a great quote in emily's book about how roosevelt said, wow, hoover did all the things that we want to do, and now we get to take credit for it. i would say i'm a little different on the gold, actually. there was a with the gold standard. it was not ideal monetary arrangement and led to far more deflation than you had to have. so actually getting rid of the gold standard was was i think the good thing to do and that's the economy started recovering pretty much the minute they got rid of gold and i'd like to want add one more thought i was running a b.a. in early 1980s when ronald reagan take over well proceeding we had you know, for a nominal infla

and there i was writing a biography of j edgar hoover. and, what was interesting to me about that panel was that though we were all engaged in this project called biography, we each had radically different relationships with our subjects. john gaddis was writing about someone he actually knew. uh, this was a semi-authorized biography. george kennan said go forth and write about me but do it once i am gone but then he proceeded to live to be more than 100 years old. [laughter] so that was a complicated biographical relationship. david blight was writing about someone that he deeply admired, someone he spent his career thinking about, and someone who was among the most admired figures in all of american history, and i had a slightly different problem than that. uh, which is i was going to write a big about someone who was among the most universally hated figures of the 20th century. i want to say though, that that was one of the things that made me want to write about hoover. he is often portrayed in our public culture, in our popular cultu

washington was hoover sometime. he was born here just a few blocks away from where we are right now. he lived here his whole life. he died in the setting of washington and he never worked for anyone but the federal government. it is a particular pleasure to be here though the library of congress because the library of congress is the place that jay edgar hoover got his start. when he graduated from high school, in 1913, having gone to central high school in washington which is most prominent white high school and in a segregated district. he needed a job and he ended up at the library of congress. this was a moment of excitement for the library. the new library of congress classification system was just coming into being and hoover was coming in there on the cutting edge of this information technology. and it is thanks to the library of congress already learned to classify things, organize information, to be administratively efficient. so he could keep effective files. [laughter] i really didn't want this moment to

as i mentioned earlier, he was blacklisted by j edgar hoover.he could not have any connection with stevenson through that channel. but then he did manage to get himself into the army. general smith the director of the cia in the war had the responsibility trying to deal with war criminals. he put them in charge of an office to track down and he did a great job. he applied computer technology to tracing down the suspects. that was a job he did in paris. so he had no connection with stevenson and that, he did good work in the war in spite of the efforts. >> that was true in paris? >> guest: yes. one of the questions was what did he do in paris? so after he was? sue to first of all there is the war, he looks -- networks for the army the united nations for agency which help track down not the war criminals. when he finished he became security guy, the billionaire who lived in france. he did a little bit of work a happy retirement. especially amongst american muslim veterans who lived in paris. the dismissal with prejudice in the 1960s, hoover finall

yeah. - [hoover] and here he is. take a look. - we have an overblown, overgrown government spending 40, more than 40 percent of our income, supposedly for our benefit, mostly waste and mostly restricting our freedom. and as a result, we have destroyed a sense of individual responsibility and responsibility to one another. now everybody takes it for granted that if there's a problem, the government's going to take care of it. - so, friedman there is talking about how government crowds out- - yes. - the civic space and the social space. but you write in your book "woke inc," how, also, capitalism has inherently invasive qualities. and you argue that the answer is to, quote, "build protective walls around the things we cherish most like democracy." how do we do that? - i think that's deeply aligned with milton friedman's view is that there's different spheres of our lives. i think part of what we've lost in our country is the integrity of each of those spheres of our lives. and part of the reason why is we've blurred th

edgar hoover. so pauling in becoming this outspoken anti anti-communist, someone who was saying anti communism has gone crazy. you are undermining american science and american education by attack on these educators. when he said this j. edgar hoover became convinced that that pauling must be a communist. he must be doing the soviets bidding if he was insisting that the red scare in education was wrong or going too far far. hoover was particularly upset when he learned that pauling at first refused to to say anything about whether he had ever in the communist party, because he said, well, that's just pauling said, that's playing into their hands. so i'm just not even going to answer that question. eventually, caltech forced him to answer the question and he said truthfully that he had never been a communist. right. but hoover is convinced that's lie. and so what started to do was, first of all, he launched a major investigation. the angeles fbi office started interviewing everyone from pauling's pa

that is what drew me to hoover. i want to finish by confessing i had a few concerns about whether or not the world in fact wanted a biography of j edgar hoover. the first of those was that in our polarized moment, hoover does not fit well into political categories that we know. he was a deep believer in the nobility of professional government service, nonpartisan service, career service. that would stand outside of politics. that is most government work going on. and he was also a deep ideological conservative particularly on questions of raised, communism, and religion. what he did was put those traditions together in a way we don't see reflected in our politics of effectively. i wondered if we could in fact have a conversation about this more complicated politics and what it might tell us about the present. my other deep anxiety in these 12 years was as david rubenstein said, this is not a period in which the 800 page book is a big piece of cultural currency. i was a little concerned that in our quick take world,

edgar hoover and it led in part that's one of the reasons that hoover became obsessed with really destroying king. it began with the communism and with the fact that king dared to criticize the fbi. yes. king said that the fbi had a problem because it had no black agents in, the south, no black fbi agents operating in the south. they were supposed to be helping to protect the civil rights marchers, the activists. but how could they when they were all white and they were all in bed, basically, the white police and sheriff's departments in the southern towns in which they were working and most of them were members, many of them were kkk members. so when king said this to edgar, who was famously sensitive to criticism, became, how dare this barrhead as he liked to call king, how this guy criticize me and and that's really a big part of why the entire weight of the government's law enforcement bureau came down on one moral leader. those are some of the strong men that surrounded. king. tell me about the strong who worked there. skin off the bones. don't let me get personal here and oftentimes we

we all know this. - [hoover] hurd didn't run for reelection to congress in 2022. now, he's pitching an "american reboot" for 2024, even if his anti-trump message isn't always popular in his own party. - donald trump is running to stay out of prison. and if we elect- [crowd boos] i know, i know, i know. - recently even receiving boos at the iowa gop's lincoln dinner. - listen, i know the truth. the truth is hard. - [hoover] what does gop presidential candidate will hurd say now? - [presenter] "firing line with margaret hoover" is made possible in part by: robert granieri, vanessa and henry cornell, the fairweather foundation, the tepper foundation, the asness family foundation, the mckenna family foundation, charles r. schwab, and by the rosalind p. walter foundation, and damon button. - will hurd. welcome back to firing line. - it's always a pleasure to be on with you. thank you for having me. - why do you want to be the next president of the united states? - look, it's a great question. we have a number of what i consider to be generational defining challenges th

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hoover book club where we bring hoover fellows and friends together to discuss their latest writings our guest today is amy ziegart. she's the morris arnold and notaging cox senior fellow here at the hoover institution and professor of political science by courtesy at stanford university. she's also a senior fellow at stanford stream of spoly institute for the national studies chair of stafford's artificial intelligence and international security steering committee and a contributing writer at the atlantic but wait, there's more abc a guards also a book author her latest title being spies lives and algorithms the history and future of american intelligence. amy great to see you and congratulations on the book great to see youtube bill. thanks. it's always nice to your book rather than just be writing a book and that leads to my first question. i just listed countless things you're doing in and around the stanford world. how do you find time to write a book? well because we couldn't get together and we couldn't travel so i am moved all my books to my home office and hold up and that's

my name is darin hoover. i'm the father of marine corps staff sergeant darin taylor hoover.d different middle names, he's a self-made man, man to himself, that left a hole in our families when he was taken from us by terrorists. he's left behind some pretty big shoes to fill and if i'm being honest with you and with myself they will never be filled. not for lack of trying, as we strive every day to do, but that's the measure of the man he is and that he was raised to be. we miss him immensely and time will never heal that wound. kelly and i were blessed with taylor, and as his parents, like all other parents, given the sacred responsibility to protect and provide for his well-being. we were tasked with also teaching him about life. now he's taught us so much more than we ever did with him. we raised him to know right from wrong. we raised him to be a patriot and to love this country that we are blessed to call home. we raised him to help others as they needed it or saw the need to do so even if it seemed insignificant at the time. we never know the hearts that we are able to

well, welcome to the hoover institution. it is my great pleasure to welcome you to what is a really unique and entertaining conversation for us. usually we're talking about problems in the streets of taiwan, so this will be, i think, quite a bit more entertaining. and i really myself am excited about it. to celebrate the publication of a new book, the siberian chop siberia job. and we're going to learn more about the true story behind it. now, when a book is embossed with the words based on a true story, the immediate question that every reader has is what's fact and what's fiction. today, we're going to get it from the source. what's fact and what's fiction. so, john, we were expecting to really know by the time that we leak john kleinheinz is a person of great importance here at hoover. he is, in fact the chair of the hoover board of overseers and a great supporter of the institution. he graduated from stanford in 1984 with a degree in economics, and john began his career as an investment banker. he worked in tokyo and new

my pal here at the hoover institution, and the author of the most recent battleground, thank you.and will -- of the university of texas, and the offer of the forthcoming book the, title of which he is about to name. >> the peacemaker, ronald reagan in the white house. >> well, i like that. and the update is? >> sometimes, december or january, so still about six months away. >> all right jamie, will -- , and hr mcmaster, thank you. for uncommon knowledge, the hoover institution, fox nation and, the ronald reagan institute, i am peter robinson. >> this year, tv celebrates 25 years are presenting nonfiction books. -- for the 22nd year in a, roll book tv is live, with the library of congress this national book festival. >> and since 2001, book tv, in partnership with the library of congress, has provided signature in-depth uninterrupted coverage of the national book fashionable featuring hundreds of nonfiction authors and guests. watch saturday at book tv once again is it brings you live all day coverage of the national book festival. gas and off this includes library of congress carl