zero heartbur >> i'm a bit concerned about uncertainty, as we make trade offs hopeeully, we are not cuttingefits. neil: bill gates, all for foreign aid, and ron paul all out on spol b stopping foreign . ngressman thank you for joining us. even outweighing abuse and waste that comes with, that what do you say? >> well, i say instead of what? if you cut out war mongering and cu some of deficit down, and gave some away with humanitarian reasons i'm not going to fight it, even though i do not have confidence in that, i think foreign aid too often gets in the hands of the ipo will -- hands of the ipo will tigs and thepoliticians.we never talk any cos from. you know you take a bill gates, he has a lot of money in his foundation but he does not get xed on that. poor people get taxed whether inflation tax or income tax or whatever. and so they end up paying, my argument for foreign aid you take money from poor people here and it ends up in pockets of rich people in poor country. neil: he is getting beyond that, i am paraphrasing, for all waste abuse and sometimes getting into wrong hand, and someti