education, there's a-- there's a hopelessness that sets in, and the extremists can exploit that hopelessss. so here at the bush cter, o thing we're doing is spreading freedom-- or helping to spread freedom as a way to marginalize the radicals. >> rose: freedom is the sort of key word here at this center. >> yes, it is. freedom of markets. freedom from ignorance. freedom from, you know, disease. and freedom from tyranny. and we've got programs specifically designed to promote freedom. >> rose: the dedication is on thursday. >> yes, sir. >> rose. >> rose: all the expresidents are coming. >> i'm very exced -- and the current president. >> rose: and the current president and the first lady. >> absolutely, and we're very grateful for that. >> president bush, 41. how is his health? >> well, he's coming and people will be-- those who talk to him, have a chance to speak with him will be pleased with his spirit. and he's-- he's, obviously, got a strong desire to live. but he can't walk very well. he's immobile. he is-- but he will be smiling. >> rose: define your relationship with him because your