if it is something that we are expecting it now hoppe. it is really the prioritization of action. i think it may change what we have seen over the last year. >> i agree. >> in general, college campuses and the general -- the younger generation can be moved by this. but the long term seeming impacts on your career or making 11 may be hampered by speaking up and taking action. there has been an incredible change in the community. when sutter taught this course, he started teaching it with 40 or 50 people. the very last time he taught it, it was 300. >> [indiscernible] -- which is a good start. but we need to take this moment and gain some momentum. and say that we need to educate america. what role you think there is in the mainstream media and to try to get some designated shows the talk about this day in and day out? this is not the fiscal cliff, but the climate cliff? getting politicians, authors, experts, so that the rest of america hears it. i really hope that this will be the next wave, talking about solutions. >> the good news is that there are already some wonderful things c

. >> hipty hoppe and over the hill. >> flat broke, deep in debt, the argument is even if we want to gete, we don't have the money. >> it's not so much how much money we have, it's how we spend it. i have an issue to a degree with where and how we're spending some of our money. it costs you and me as taxpayers in this country one half of one penny to support the entire space program. how many mouths is that going to feed? that money is spent on earth, produces jobs, creates technology that leads to other jobs. creates national prestige, international prestige. if you put a little box on the income tax return saying would you give 10 cents to america's space program, i think you would be astounded with how many boxes would get x'd. i get people your age, coming to me, 30, 40, 50-year-old young men and women saying captain cernan, thank you. for what? i'm an engineer. i'm an air force pilot. i'm a teacher, i'm an astronomer because of what you inspired me to do. it wasn't what i inspired them to do, it's what the nation inspired them to do and become. how much of is that worth? half a penn