then he went to work for the tribune for horace greeley. mobsg the riots of 1863 ransacked and burned houses, they attacked innocent people, and they started fires on the first floor of the tribune building. reely said i want no armaments in the building and then he went to dinner. gay and the men he was working with got guns and ammunition to protect the building. meanwhile, elizabeth was at home in staten island. she had somebody teacher to use a pistol. she was a nonresistant -- quakers were nonresistant, nonviolence. there was a mob outside their house. she was there with two of the children. one was staying with somebody else. she had to protect the home so she learned to fire a pistol. fortunately there was a tavern keeper at the corner of davis street. he steered the mob in another direction so she did not have to use the gun. it was a horrible, horrible time. you don't think about lynchings in the north, but there was lynchings in new york city during the draft right. -- riot. i would be remiss if i did not mention frederick douglas

to have him released and -- andld a beale bond of they had a bail bond of $100,000 signed by horace greeley, augustus, and a number of other prominent northern men to release him from prison. the south have the right to secede from the union. this bible is a family bible and it was at its plantation home in mississippi and was taken during the war between the states by a northern soldier. much later, it was returned to the white house by his younger brother. willis of delaware, ohio. this is the dining room. as you can see, president davis had just joined having guests. they had lavish dinners, beautiful, pointed rose to china that was mrs. davis is that we had some of. the south, political and social. they had a wonderful time while they were here. mrs. davis was beautifully educated and was a wonderful hostess. i can just imagine, discussing politics, of course. it was so important and that they had to dinners and receptions because they were trying to win people over to the cause and they would have people of all different kinds of social and economic grounds to come together to support

the know-nothings was how people referred to that party, and that started with horace greeley. and so i'm not going to apologize for referring to the know-nothing party as know-nothings. >> well -- >> we can disagree. >> but they don't ever refer to it as the american party. anyway, my question had to do with a current battle in the culture wars, and that is the so-called gun rights advocates versus the so-called gun control advocates which does not seem to be one that the liberals are winning. and how to you foresee that going -- how do you foresee that going and fit in with your general thesis? >> yeah. do you think that's a culture war question, the gun question? >> yes. >> how so? >> because there are different cultures that have different attitudes, urban versus rural and conservative versus -- >> yeah. okay, good. i agree with you on that. i think it's a little tricky because it is a constitutional question, obviously. >> [inaudible] >> sorry? >> which the conservatives won. >> yeah. and i agree with you. i agree with you. i think there are issues on which conservatives -