the other pick was horace mann educators, that stock's jumped up a little bit as well. >> hasn't donecked alaska, and i do want to say the stock's actually down just a little bit. >> right. cheryl: but of all the airline plays that were out there, that was, i thought, a very interesting choice, kind of a left field choice, if you will. >> it's a really strong commany, profitable, remains profitable, and i think we'll get through the season and -- cheryl: they're facing a lot of competition in the seattle market in particular, delta's coming. >> that's true. cheryl: back to the broader market and the broader targets for the year for 2014. i think everyone's trying to gauge how they want to invest their money. we've been talking about financial, i know you like energy, but what's your overall view of the markets? >> well, we think it's been like a race, and we crossed the line, and we're exhausted. i think we started into it in the beginning of the year, and we're seeing it generally this time of year the market goes up. so there's going to be more volatility this year than there was in