this can be read as a success story, as a horatio alger story. it is not that. it has been a struggle to become the chair of a department. it has been a struggle at every point. and as a person of color if you were to talk to most scholars of hour in the academy -- color in the academy, we all suffer still from stigma. even though i'm the chair of the department doesn't mean i'm beyond race. race affects my transactions every day not only in the department, but outside. outside the university i don't walk with a nine spatial looking black person with a nice west pennsylvania accent. so i navigate the academy as a plaque-looking person with latino accent where many of my colleagues are still, again, thinking that we're beyond race. and when i raise concerns about race inequality in the university, they give me the color blind nonsense. but i voted for obama, so -- i'm like, so what does that have to do with the fact that we have few minority faculty, few minority students, etc., etc., etc. >> host: eduardo bonilla-silva. his most recent book, "racism without raci

one of the quotes from roger ailes on "fox news" speaking at the horatio alger society. if you think of yourself as a victim you will always be a victim but if you think of yourself as a success eventually you will be one and i love that attitude. >> host: in your story you talk about having been turned down by many newspapers as you desire to write a column but then here comes one editor who says at the "l.a. times" let's give them a chance. this guy met tom johnson when he was in the lyndon johnson did administration him as a copy boy at nbc. i found him to be an engaging young man and hope that he would find the same in me. years later i wrote a column as a lark. i'd written this book called burning about censorship from the left. i wrote a column and i sent it off to what i thought would be the least likely newspaper to print at "the new york times" and the printed it. it's framed on my wall as a historical document. i wrote another one of the "washington post" printed that. what's going on here? i contacted the syndicates and my background was broadcasting. they'll