the more horizontal fracking and drilling we have the more problems the more waste water the more injectede ground we're doing and it's opening fault lines that aren't open at the moment. >> in a prepared statement xto the company that owns this disposal well told "techknow" based on an analysis of the data to date, xl does not believe its well caused any of the seismic events. it's a sensitive issue. when the mayor took us to the area, a driver began taking pictures of us on a cell phone. residents of reno and azel are taking action. >> the quake started recently and it woke me up. i thought a 747 landed on my roof. >> at a round of hearings at the texas state capital, citizens voiced their complaints, the railroad is a state agency that regulates the gas and oil industry including drilling and disposal wells located throughout the state. >> how would you like it where you would have your grand kids play over in your yard if they fall in a sinkhole, they'll break their leg. >> in response to pressure the rrc has imposed a regulation that would require the oil and gas companies to research

hydro fracking horizontal drilling. we can produce a lot more.ic drilling. floating liquefied natural gas plants. the biggest ships in history to take up methane from the sea bed, natural gas, liquefy it on a floating vessel that can withstand a typhoon and ship it off for burning someplace for electricity. technology can accelerate the disaster or it can solve it. >> what is the path to sustainability? when you describe the problem and you talk about the world economy doubling in a generation the population getting much larger even it feels impossible. i think about china and india developing and building a coal fire power plant every week. i wonder does it really make that much difference if i use a little more solar energy? >> no if china and india continue to completely depend on coal as they are. it's true the major parts of the world don't participate then. it doesn't matter what you and i do. that's why we need a global understanding and a global agreement and that you know very well better than anybody, how tough that is to get all parts

in fracking they are drilling down putting in a horizontal well and they inject a lot of water to hydraulically frack the rock. you are talking about hundreds of thousands of gallons of water that's fracked. >> john vidale is a seismologist from the university of washington, he's in seattle tonight. john welcome. does fracking directly cause earthquakes in your opinion? >> yes it's clear fracking causes earthquakes. and more than the fracking, the process of getting rid of the waste water afterwards generates most of the earthquakes. the correlation is kind of undeniable. >> what other forms of oil and gas production could cause seismic energy -- seismic eruptions or activity? >> well, i mean there are a number of ways to cause earthquakes. one can do the fracking process or just taking water out of the ground or taking gas out of the ground or pumping water back in. and many earthquakes happen naturally. so any one earthquake or swarm of earthquakes could have been natural and wouldn't have needed any oil exploration to trigger them but it seems pretty clear that many if not most of the earthq

. >> that's right the fracking combined with horizontal drilling is certainly something that's been relativelyo the oil and gas industry at least in wide-spread use but, no scientists say the big surge of earthquakes in oklahoma is really tied to waste water injection. while you do get waste water when you frack and use water and fluid in a fracking process it's still a relatively small portion of the total waste water that has to be disposed of in oklahoma. it's pretty small. it's a part of the equation but a relatively small one. >> ifill: so what we've agreed on what the cause is does anybody agree on what the solution is? can you just cap the wells? >> no. nobody agrees on what the solution should be. you can't really just cap the wells -- i mean, you could cap the wessments technologically, that's not difficult to do. a couple of questions. one, the oil and gas industries doesn't want a moratorium on these disposal wells. they're really key to producing oil and gas. seems unlikely regulators or lawmakers here would impose a widespread ban on disposalle wells. the question is are there a c

energy independence as a policy and as a successful goal from the innovation of horizontal drilling and hydraulic fracking is good. but, and i think miss craddick said it well, we have to take reasonable precautions with something that has helped us achieve another goal. as policymakers, we have to balance the dangers that potentially, from an industrial operation, as mr. holstein described. the fact that some things are going on in the ground, we may or may not be able to see -- some things are happening at the surface where there is a collision of an industrial operation and the school next door and whether you need a curb cut for the trust and what is going on in the air? is there an escape of methane or some other admission into the air? mr. lomax notes we have been having that discussion in colorado on a pretty heated basis, whether it should be a local government, state government, or federal government in charge of it. colorado, similar to texas, it is the state government that has the final say. our colorado oil and gas commission. that is generally where i have been. we cannot ignore the potentia

energy independence as a policy and as a successful goal from the innovation of horizontal drilling and hydraulic fracking good. but, and i think miss craddick said it well, we have to take reasonable precautions with something that has helped us achieve another goal. as policymakers, we have to balance the dangers that potentially, from an industrial operation, as mr. holstein described. the fact that some things are going on in the ground, we may or may not be able to see -- some things are happening at the surface where there is a collision of an industrial operation and the school next door, and whether you need a curb cut for the trust, and what is going on in the air? is there an escape of methane or some other admission into the air? mr. lomax notes we have been having that discussion in colorado on a pretty heated basis, whether it should be a local government, state government, or federal government in charge of it. colorado, similar to texas, it is the state government that has the final say. our colorado oil and gas commission. that is generally where i have been. we cannot ignore the potential

fracking, the technology of horizontal drilling, all of this is new and really remarkably significantty. tom: i saw a sobering chart on oklahoma earthquakes. there's no question there are more earthquakes. can you link that in to the oil system of oklahoma? governor keating: i think what could cause that is wastewater disposal. that could be the cause, and there is an in-depth study going on -- tom: we need to get on that. governor keating: fracking itself is not the issue, forcing water through rocks -- it is wastewater disposal, pumping it into these caverns, if you will -- olivia: but it is because of fracking. governor keating: there are technologies to use the water without having to bump into the ground, which is him and you have to do because obviously freshwater -- look at california -- is hugely valuable today, and if you can save it, save it. tom: we have got to get on this right now. governor keating: absolutely. brendan: you get fat years and lean years in an oil economy. as oklahoma prepare for the lean years? governor keating: yes, because we have a balanced budget. okla

independence as a policy and as a successful goal from the innovation of horizontal drilling and hydraulic tracking -- hydraulic fracking is good. i think ms. craddick, you said it well. we have to take reasonable precautions with something that has helped us achieve another goal and we have to, as to, as policymakers balance the dangers the potentially come from an industrial operation. and the fact that some things are going on the ground. we may or may not be up to see. some things are happening at the surface were there is a collision of an industrial operation and the school next-door and worthy you whether you need a curb cut for the trucks and what is going on in the year. is there is there an escape of methane or some other emission into the air? and mr. lomax mr. lomax knows that we have been having a discussion in colorado on a pretty heated basis whether it should be local government state government, or federal government. colorado, similar to taxes it, it is the state government basically that has the final say. our colorado oil and gas commission that is generally where i have been we cannot ignore the pot

energy independence as a policy and as a successful goal from the innovation of horizontal drilling and hydraulic fracking is good. but, and i think miss craddick you said it well, we have to take reasonable precautions though, with something that has helped us achieve another goal. we got to as policymakers, we have to balance the dangers that potentially come from an industrial operation as mr. holstein described it. and the fact that some things are going on underground, we may or may not be able to see some things are happening at the service where there is a collision of an industrial operation and the school next door and whether you need a curb cut for the trucks and what is going on in the air. is there an escape of methane or some other emission into the air. and mr. lomax knows we have been having that discussion in colorado on a pretty you know, heated basis. whether it should be local government, the state government or the federal government in charge of all of this. colorado, similar to texas it is the state government basically has the final say. that's generally where i've been. but we can