i very much liked the way bill met horowitz. he, horowitz, introduced himself to bill on a flight. recognized bill from television and went up to him. and they got to know each other. and bill visited the horowitz home several times. sometimes in the company of james burnham. and bill would tell this story, they were conspireing to get horowitz to play. they wondered how. because horowitz was the dinner host. he didn't want to entertain, so to speak. bill and burnham cooked up this plan. they would say, you know, you played clementi, is it really worth playing? he's not up to mozart and others. they did this and horowitz was indignant. he said clementi, a genius. he got up to play to prove it. it was one of bill's great gambits, i think. through the years he would send me cds, often that people had given him. eremember one note accompanying those discs, me no like. you? i can't quite remember. often he just liked to listen to music recordings. whatever the device was, he said, let's listen to something on the hi-fi. so we would sit and listen. he went to concerts. he went to operas

horowitz was a dinner host. he didn't want to entertain, so to speak. bill and bernham cooked up this plan. they would say, you know, you play clemente. is it really worth playing him? he's not up to mozart and others. horowitz was indignant. clemente, a genius. he got up to play to prove it. one of bill's great gambits, i think. through the years he would send me cds, often people giving him. one note me no like, you? i can't quite remember. often he just liked to listen to music, recordings. whatever the device was, let's something to listen on the hi-fi. he went to concerts and operas. i could tell you that before he got to the door, he was always greeted by people. noticed by people. i remember one night in particular, at avery fisher hall then called, by the time we got through the first usher two people had said you're my hero, you changed my life. this happened a lot. once he left an intermission because he wasn't feeling his best self as my grandmother would say. and got in a cab and a perfect stranger walked up to me and said is he okay? with g

>> i want horowitz's report to come out first. i have a lot of confidence in horowitz. want to know in 2016 why they handled secretary's clinton's investigation into such an unprecedented way. if me didn't make his mind up before july, why draft the press release in may? i want horowitz and mueller to conclude their probes first. i think people will have confidence in their probes. i would like to ask him more questions under oath. >> bret: do you have a sense when they will wrap up? >> i would look for horowitz to conclude in may. i don't know that and he would not tell me. i think the natural rhythm is in may with the mccabe part already coming out. with mueller i have no idea. if anyone does no, shame on the mueller team for leaking it. i don't think they did. >> bret: your reaction to the dnc lawsuit. there are even some democrats saying it's know the right move. you have been looking at this stuff. a lot of investigations. what do you think of this move by the dnc? >> it's thin as a wafer. bernie sanders suing the dnc for conspiring to give her the lawsui lawsuit -

i very much like the way that bill met horowitz. because horowitz introduced himself to bill on a flight. recognized bill from television and went up to him. they got the know each other. and bill visited the horowitz home several times and sometimes in the company of james byrneham, and bill would the tell the story of how they were conspiring to get horowitz the play, and he wondered how, because he was the dinner host and he did not want to entertain, and so bill and burnham cooked up this plan, and they said, you know, you played clemente, and is it really worth playing, because he is not up to mozart and other, and so they did this and horowitz said, clemente, he is a jeanne, you and got up to prove it. -- he is a genius, and he got up to play to prove it. it is one of bill's great gambits. and he would be sent cds and he had one that had a note that said "me no like. you?" and often he liked to listen to music record inings, and whatev the device, he would say let's listen to it on the hi-fi and so he would sit and listen. he

haar-horowitz hopes to capture ideas that we often lose by the next morning. >> haar-horowitz: so, it'sou can ask, "hey, jibo, i'd like to dream about a rabbit tonight." it would watch for that trigger of unconsciousness, and then right as you're hitting the lip, it triggers you with the audio. and it asks you what is it that you're thinking about. you record all that sleep talking. and then later, when you wake up fully, you can ask for those recordings. >> pelley: and when he brought this idea to you, what did you think, really? >> maes: crazy enough, yep. ( laughs ) >> herr: welcome to the world of bodies and motions. >> pelley: nearby, in hugh herr's lab, everett lawson's brain is connected to his prosthetic foot, a replacement for the club foot he was born with. >> everett lawson: the very definition of a leg, or a limb or ankle is going to dramatically change with what they're doing. it isn't just whole, it's 150%. >> herr: you feel directly corrected? >> lawson: yeah, when i fire a muscle really fast, it makes its full sweep. >> pelley: herr's team has electronically connected th

i worked win spector general horowitz in the past. and he took very serious action against doj officials. he had a termination of a u.s. attorney. i just submitted a complaint to the fast and furious investigation. and he wrote a scathing report about the u.s. attorney in arizona who lost his job over it. it was politically motivated leak. he took it seriously and did an independent investigation. the president at the time was president obama. i trust his independence and i trust his judgment. i think probably attorney general sessions does as well. i think people who know the players aren't that upset. eric: that's reassuring. thank you. they will report russian diplomats expelled from the u.s. have landed in moscow. this as the kremlin retaliated by expelling 60 it s u.s. diplo. this after the alleged poisoning of a spy and his daughter in the u.k. lund i graham says this -- lindsey graham says this remind him of the cold war. >> this remind me of the 80s. er type the russians tried to up their military capability we one-upped them.

attorney in washington d.c., horowitz and his team concluding former fbi director mccabe lied 4 times, three times under oath about the fbi investigation about clinton foundation. two weeks before the presidential election mirroring language in federal statute. covers lying to federal invest investigators, said in may 2017 he did not know who authorized who disclosed to "wall street journal" it was not due to lack of memory, in our view it was didn't knowingly. and book tour former fbi director james comey said he had no knowledge of the referral. >> given that the ig's respect reflect. i could well be a witness. reporter: criminal referrals are usually secret. today justice department declined to comment, but mccabe a lawyer said that the standards are low for this type of referral. u.s. earn attorney office will conclude it should decline to prosecute. >> two congressional sources tell fox news, 7 comey memos could be delivered to capitol hill by the justice department as soon as tonight, after fox news confirmed that republican chairman threatened to issue a subpoena after justice

he is already working with horowitz in tandem with the department of justice, hike call horowitz.d huber pick it up from there and look how the hillary clinton investigation won the uranium one sale went and everything like that. he says they have full special counsel power. senator lindsey graham was not happy with that on sunday. >> my belief is it should be a special counsel. here's the question. i want a second special counsel with the same determination and resources to look at the abuses of the fisa process. what the clinton email investigation ---was the clinton email investigation a sham. i want a special counsel to be appointed with the same resources and the same determination to look at those issues as is mueller is looking at the trump campaign. and i don't see that yet. brian: they say -- they got the same power. and he says this will be quicker to the point and if you need a second special counsel we will do it after that. he joined us earlier. >> i think that the attorney general did exactly what people should want him to do. what he essentially did, he combined thi

and daniel horowitz, you host a nationally syndicated podcast. a lot of people know you, you appear on radio a lot. you are considered one of our really sharp thinkers out there. i wanted to have you both on to talk about what's going on in this country. i'm concerned about what's going on. charlie, let me start with you. our college campuses seem to be the last holdout of the stalinist philosophy, the violence, the safe spaces, the triggering, all of these phrases i never heard of before. what's going on? >> a lot. the greatest threat to our civilization is what's going on on our college campuses. the suppression of free speech. attack on the idea much america. the neomarxists makes you feel like you are entering a different country. i have visited hundreds of campuses across the country. not once have i seen a conservative student or faculty member try to shout down a liberal when they come on campus. but almost daily. when i come on campus there are leftist activists petitioning for me not to be able to speak. they are trying to defund conserv

mark: daniel horowitz, judges, we were just talking about immigration.we stand with the judiciary in this country? >> when you wrote men in black, we're are at the point where judges do not recognize any clause of the constitution. what's a state power, they give to the feds, what's a fed power they give to the states. that is antithetical they read into the constitution, and they are abusing the rules of stands to make anything a justicable case, everything trump has done that is not new territory, he merely gets rid of things that didn't exist in the country from 1789 until barack obama's last two years such as transgenderrisms in the military, contraception update. a lot of conservatives are proud of his deregulation agenda. i got news for you. >> what's happened to all that? >> the courts are enjoining them. the legal profession created this rule where they can get standing in a court to sue an abstract and have a district judge put a nationwide -- mark: thousands of district judges. >> put a nationwide injunction on -- mark: and block the president'

you gave michael horowitz a million pages, okay? take out the grand jury material we're not entitled to it. it's legally protected. if there's another legal argument for any of the other documents make that argument but it should be a million minus grand jury and then turn over the rest to congress and we've gotten what? a couple thousand pages and we've been at this for about five months? i can tell you this, maria every member i've talked to is frustrated. some of us have actually been somewhat muted in expressing our frustration, because we want the documents and not the drama but i can tell you come next week, i talked to chairman goodlatte two days ago. we are tired of being patient. we want the information or we want a really good explanation for why you're not producing. maria: so what if you don't get it. what tool do you have to actually demand that you actually get what you should be looking at? what happens next week? >> we have three tools. we can bring them in. we can bring the attorney general, the deputy attorney gene

how important is that, the michael horowitz the ig?espected. we're looking forward to his big report. supposed to be this month. reports and indications seem it will happen sometime in may. i look forward to question mr. horowitz. i look forward to getting to look at the report to find out what he discovered last year. brian: congressman, you're not shy giving a opinion. are you comfortable with kevin mccarthy as speaker? >> there is no race for speaker. paul ryan is the speaker. he will continue to remain in congress. if and when there is speakers race, i'm encouraged and by colleagues to be open to that. we better focus on the american people what we will do, if we don't, we won't be in the majority. there won't be a speaker race for republicans. if we do what the american people we told them we would do we'll be fine and deal with the speakers race after that. >> we foe he won't be speaker unless the freedom caucus is on the same page. as heavy kin mccarthy come to you to say, hey, what will it happen to get you support. >> this is

according to horowitz he suggested he had a conflict because his wife received more than $600,000 from democrats for the 2015 state senate race could mccabe authorized the fbi's public affairs chief michael horowitz to discuss issues to the investigation including a dramatic phonecall with mccabe and the justice department official. mccabe seniority gave the authority to release information to the media if certain conditions were met but the inspector general found mccabe at the for personal rather than professional reasons riding mccabe's decision in the clinton foundation investigation threatened on resource in a manner designed to advance his personal interest at the expense of department leadership but clearly not within the public interest perception that is after and president trump tweeted mccabe both full time said mckay is controlled by his boss james comey. the white house press secretary reported it this way. >> i haven't seen a full report but it sounds like two peas in a pod with mccabe and comey. mccabe was fired in disgrace then lied about it. >> the rush to fire him at

this is a very serious investigation that has concluded -- horowitz was appointed by president obamaident bush. think of his office as internal affairs in a police department. a doj within the doj to examine the doj. he doesn't look for crimes. he looks for violations of doj internal policy. he finds very serious crimes. the argument just made by congressman jordan will resonate with the american people. if you indict people for lying, why not indict the number two-person for lying to other fbi people? there is no answer to that if he is not criminally charged. >> lying to the fbi is a felony and the reason fbi takes lack of candor seriously is because they expect witnesses in cases to be honest with the fbi agents. they can't have a different standard for the people at the top of the food chain. the fact that andrew mccabe lied to the number 1 guy in the fbi, james comey, says a lot. politics got mccabe into leaking information to the "wall street journal" and it's going to get him in more trouble. if you listen to the response that his attorney gave about the referral to the u.s. a

what michael horowitz has going for him is he is good before congress for decades. complaining about some of the problems, showing us some of the things wrong at department of justice. including double standards for how they enforce harassment in the workplace. other things of that sort. and so, congress should give him the benefit of the doubt if he is going to turn over if you will, the us attorney, anything that needs to be prosecuted. and he will get answers or he will get an outside subpoena. >> maria: there's a lot to look at with the bias at the top of the fbi and the department of justice against donald trump and really the handling of the hillary clinton email investigation. do you think he is equipped into looking independently at those two things? >> i do not think any one or even a dozen people to look at all of that was done wrongdoing the obama administration. remember, eric holder withheld documents lying to congress about what his involvement was and was the first attorney general, the first officer held in contempt. he is actually still very activel

what michael horowitz has going for him is he is good before congress for decades. complaining about some of the problems, showing us some of the things wrong at department of justice. including double standards for how they enforce harassment in the workplace. other things of that sort. and so, congress should give him the benefit of the doubt if he is going to turn over if you will, the us attorney, anything that needs to be prosecuted. and he will get answers or he will get an outside subpoena. >> maria: there's a lot to look at with the bias at the top of the fbi and the department of justice against donald trump and really the handling of the hillary clinton email investigation. do you think he is equipped into looking independently at those two things? >> i do not think any one or even a dozen people to look at all of that was done wrongdoing the obama administration. remember, eric holder withheld documents lying to congress about what his involvement was and was the first attorney general, the first officer held in contempt. he is actually still very activel

so, michael horowitz is going to be very diligent. he is going to issue a report on hillary and then i think what we're going to see follow that is a report on former fbi director comey. >> sean: sean that's only into the clinton email investigation. gregg, we know she committed crimes. we put the crimes and violations have you identified them on this show. but then the exoneration. you don't have an exoneration before investigation. >> yeah. >> sean: who was involved in the presentation you have unverified, uncorroborated information from clinton's bought and paid for dossier from a foreign national russian sources to the fisa court judges. four times. >> right. not just obstruction in the hillary clinton case. but also as you point out abuse of power and obstruction in the dossier. you are also leaving out theft of government property. now, comey said well, these are my private recollections. my personal recollections. it is not. he was on the job. and he was having a conversation with the president. and he memorialized it in a docu

let's bring in jeff horowitz from the associated press. one of the reporters that broke the story.d to see you. >> good to see you too. >> shepard: as i understand it, there was a rumor, i guess, at least, that this door man was talking about that the president had a love child. is that right? >> right. so a former doorman for one of the trump buildings called up the national inquirer on the tip line and said i have a juicy story for you. said the president -- the future president had an affair with one of his employees and ended up with a child. the national inquirer did the reporting on this, put the guys through paces, paid him $30,000 under a contract and this is the key things, under a contract that said if he violated it, he owed them a million dollars. so this was a gag order in some respects or a gag agreement that this guy signed in exchange for the money. that was enough to keep that rumor quiet through the 2016 election. >> the woman involved said none of that is true. it's fake. right? >> yes. look, the question of whether or not the underlying rumor is accurate, we can

>> i have to congratulate michael horowitz for finally finding one of the leakers. we've known for a long time that too much information has been getting out from the fbi and the department of justice, so i congratulate the doj on the fbi michael horowitz tonight because finally one of the leakers were found and it happens to be somebody who was right at the top. there are many more leakers to find. >> martha: when you go through this report and you read a number of the subject lines are reports in "the wall street journal" and then it breaks down exactly what was leaked to "the wall street journal" and what the inspector general found. it says according to a person familiar with the probes, on august 12, a senior justice department official called mr. mccabe to voice his displeasure at finding that new york fbi agents were still openly pursuing the clinton foundation probe during the election season. now it turns out that mccabe is basically talking about himself, he's the person that was familiar with the story who called to talk about himself, right? >> that's wh

including david horowitz on the priorities he thinks that the president should focus on. an investigative journalist david cay johnston critical look at the actions of the trump administration. you can watch these and other programs online at booktv.org.

so michael horowitz is going to be very diligent. he will issue a report on hillary and then i think what we are going to see followed by that is a report on former fbi director comey. >> sean: that is only into the clinton email investigation. gregg, we know she committed crimes. weav put the crimes and violations, you've identify them on the show, then the exoneration, you don't have an exoneration before investigation. then, who was involved in the presentation of unverified, uncorroborated, information from clinton's bought and paid for a dossier from a foreign national, russian sources, to the fisa court judges, four times. >> not just obstruction of the hillary clinton case, but also, as you point out, abuse of power and obstruction in the dossier. also leaving out that the government property. comey said, these are my private recollections, my personal recollections. it is not. he was on the job. he was having a conversation with the president. he memorialized it in a document under the privacy act of federal records act, and

so, michael horowitz is going to be very diligent.e is going to issue a report on hillary and then i think what we're going to see follow that is a report on former fbi director comey. >> sean: sean that's only into the clinton email investigation. gregg, we know she committed crimes. we put the crimes and violations have you identified them on this show. but then the exoneration. you don't have an exoneration before investigation. >> yeah. >> sean: who was involved in the presentation you have unverified, uncorroborated information from clinton's bought and paid for dossier from a foreign national russian sources to the fisa court judges. four times. >> right. not just obstruction in the hillary clinton case. but also as you point out abuse of power and obstruction in the dossier. you are also leaving out theft of government property. now, comey said well, these are my private recollections. my personal recollections. it is not. he was on the job. and he was having a conversation with the president. and he memorialized it in a docume

horowitz made a criminal referral to the u.s. attorney here in washington, d.c.fter his investigators concluded the former deputy fbi director andrew mccabe lied four times, three times under oath over his role and the media leak about the clinton foundation. that investigation concluded in february. source told fox news the mccabe criminal referral was made some weeks ago. this is a key section of the inspector general's report that mirrors the federal statute 18 usc 1001, and that's lying to federal investigators. that report reads in part: when mccabe told investigators in may, that's may of 2017, that he did not know who authorized the disclosure to the "wall street journal," it was not due to a lack of memory. in our view, the evidence is substantial that it was done knowingly and intentionally. knowingly and intentionally are the key words. criminal referrals are usually secret and today the justice department and the office of the inspector general declined to comment on andrew mccabe's status. fox news is reaching out to his attorney in a recent statement

we are waiting for that ig report from horowitz. >> sean: when is that coming?i'm assuming after comey. >> sean: i'm holding my breath.. i'm dying. >> me too. >> the only good thing coming of this are conservatives are becoming civil libertarians. >> sean: i have actually been one. >> you care about the constitution now.ns >> sean: i always have. >> so important. >> sean: i agree with you. >> people on the left don't seem to care about the constitution. everybody just picks sides. and that's a very great danger to our constitution. >> sean: the "new york times" comes out, ukrainian $150,000. all of this gets dropped and thrown out there and then the media is hysterical and breathless reporting and it turns out to be nothing. >> let me tell you because i happen to know a lot aboutyo that. i represented the president of the ukraine. >> sean: the person involved in this. >> the person involved in this and his son-in-law, who is one of the most charitable, generous people in the world. he gave millions of dollars to the clinton campaign. and, of course he is going t

my name is elliott horowitz, from rockville, maryland. i used to work for the world bank in the intelligence community. could people please define the public/private partnership a little bit more clearly? >> why don't we start with you, anthony. >> yeah. it is a loose term and it is used in a lot of different ways historically, everything from, you know, building toll highways together to, you know, nih investments in health care and so forth. but the way i would use it is to see it as what are mutually beneficial things that the government, the public side and the private side, primarily commercial industry but i would also include universities, nonprofits, civil society within that, what are mutually beneficial things that they can do with specific projects. so those benefits might be very different from one side and the other, so -- or they might be the same. so the example that i would use is the co-creation of technology, what i was saying before, the government's good at creating certain technologies, commercial sector is good at cr

david horowitz was scheduled for outer siberia and was not allowed to speak. vein -- vincente fox was allowed to speak. high profile, controversial view no security fee, middle of the afternoon, and mo problems. maria, the clinton administration official i mentioned, they're both allowed to speak. ann coulter, not allowed to speak. so, usually berkeley had two poll sits. what is called high profile speakers policy. an unwritten policy which they told the students and new the high profile speaker policy the university gets to decide who is a high profile and get to assess fees and it's spirally within the university's discretion. after we filed our laws the university changed its policy and then told the court we would change it anyway. by the way that wasn't our policy. that that's actually continued to be their position until today. but we have e-mails referring this high profile speaks issue. so they changed it it to major events policy. so that's a more you've mystic way of saying high profile speaker because the university gets to decide what it's a major

clinton e-mail case is now expected in may with request for testimony from inspector general michael horowitz, on may 8, about 3 weeks from now. lou: catherine herridge thank you. or first guest said comey potentially committed a serious crime by leaking documents, to manipulate a ongoing investigation to so-called russia meddling and collusion in the 2016 election, joining us congressman andy bigs, a member of house judiciary committee, i guess first thing i should do is ask you, what do you make of all of the references last night in that interview to a fbi direct or by himself to an fbi decore r who was so now -- overcome by the development. >> he had is not only delicate but politi politically motivatey opinion he seems to be corrupt, and leaking things, i think he has violated the law. if anyone has brought more disrepute on leadership of the fbi than james comey, i don't know who it would be, it is outrageous, we're waiting for memos to come out. they are not happening. which is we should hold these folks in contempt, they are holding legislative branch of government in contempt, this i

. >> the thing for them to do, rod rosenstein can call michael horowitz who has the documents and say just give them to congress. if he doesn't do that. and you are right, he avoid the subpoena, the deadline came and went, all we got was a phone call. and i think what we have to do, delays growing consensus of holding them contempt of congress. but it's not enough to stop there. we have to have someone willing to do the job. if the deputy attorney general is not willing to do it and not willing to allow to us have our constitutional oversight authority supported, we'll find someone who can. judge jeanine: does that mean you will get rid of rod rosenstein? >> if he does not turn doimplets, there are a growing number of us on capitol hill who believe that someone else needs to do the job. and what happens there is we have got constitutionally we have some things we can do. judge jeanine: as far as i am concerned, and i come from a different area. i come from law enforcement. you don't respond to a subpoena, you get a search warrant and you get a search warrants. like they did with paul

inspector general reports by michael horowitz at the justice department.round 1 with the report about andrew mccabe. we could talk about that in a minute. but here's the point. there are more reports coming from michael horowitz, one in particular that looks at james comey, f.b.i. officials, what was happening with the clinton email investigation. and so the manuscripts, he's going to be out there kicking things off officially tonight, james comey with his version of events. but there are a lot of people, not just the president, going after james comey, challenging him on the facts. and remember, he's under oath before chuck grassley and other members of congress and the senate in recent months over the last year or so saying things like "i had nothing to do with leaks." he said that under oath when even andrew mccabe, his former number 2 is saying that's not really true. griff: we're also talking about faith in institutions, and what does it say about the f.b.i. that its director was baking in an assumed political outcome and making decisions, at some lev

. >> he decided to appoint john huber who will work with the inspector general horowitz.her brickhuber brings the sua powers. but for some members on the conservative side of the ledger who say you've got a dirty dossier improperly used to spy on the trump campaign and the doj and fbi hid the source of that, this is as bad as it gets, we should go straight to a special counsel. >> to give a little context, sessions allowed calls for a second special counsel. sessions says the best thing we can do is to put huber in place to determine those circumstances to get to that. he's not saying he's not appointing it. he's saying this is what we need to do to get there. the chairman of the oversight committee trey gowdy says this is a good step. although conservatives upset. congressman dav dave brat soundg out on that. here's what he had to say. >> we're not happy at all. the new appointment isn't sufficient. he reports to rosenstein and rosenstein is in the middle of the dossier fault lines. when you've got ten of the top fbi officials stepping down or being fired, there's enough

michael horowitz is a reputable former prosecutor, and talented lawyer. i think that gives the u.s. attorney's office some cover if they bring charges. saying this is not a political thing. this is based on a real from the inspector general. charles: wasn't i appointed -- wasn't he appointed by president obama? >> i believe he was and he served in the criminal division. charles: evangelicals might be the president's secret weapon. it's easy to think that all money managers are pretty much the same. but while some push high commission investment products, fisher investments avoids them. some advisers have hidden and layered fees. fisher investments never does. and while some advisers are happy to earn commissions from you whether you do well or not, fisher investments fees are structured so we do better when you do better. maybe that's why most of our clients come from other money managers. fisher investments. clearly better money management. charles: evangelical support for president trump reaching a record high. 75% say they see him favorably and only 22% say they view him unfavora

this may be wildly unpopular, but i would probably try to persuade my fellow americans let horowitz and new quasi special counsel look into it. not quite special counsel, but more than the doj. kennedy: he's a u.s. attorney with subpoena power. you said there are two dozen people the inspector general cannot subpoena but the u.s. attorney would have greater subpoena power. i don't think we need to have a second special counsel. i know you feel that way. i worry this first special counsel has gone side waids. if paul manafort's business dealings are the target somehow we are off base. my worry is the surveillance tape is ripe for abuse of power. >> we need the subpoena power. it appears the utah u.s. attorney is a good choice. so i'm look forward to the process unfolding. i hope we find the facts as quickly as possible and bring more clarity to the american people. kennedy: would you guys have been friends in high school? he was an athlete and i was a nerd. neither one of us went to the library so we wouldn't have bumped into each other. kennedy: what was your supported? >> football. ken

the inspector general michael horowitz made a criminal referral to the u.s.attorney in washington, d.c. he's recommending prosecution. mccabe has been accused of quote lack of candor regarding his involvement in release of information surroundinged the clinton foundation. comey was asked about the development this afternoon on cnn. >> if they bring a case against andrew mccabe, would you be a witness for the prosecution? >> potentially. i don't know if the reporting is accurate. given the i.g.'s report reflects uner actions andy mccabe had with me, i could be a witness. kennedy: andrew maccabe put out a statement saying they are confident he'll not be prosecuted. donald trump tweeted that james comey just threw andrew mccabe under the bus. >> he did what we thought he did. he leaked these things to make himself and his wife look better throughout the investigation and potentially violated a bunch of laws. i'm sick of sociopath i can people in the intelligence committee deciding to leak stuff to make themselves look better. >> secret secrets are no fun. i lear

horowitz has a fine reputation -- lou: he unloaded on mccabe. >> yeah, he did. that gives you some optimism that something will happen. and i hope james comey maintains his look at me, look at me book tour, his then glorious book is like reading a har la quinn romance except the antagonist is in love with himself. that's the difference. this is a guy who says incriminating things. in front of steph no stephanopoe said it incleunsed his decision to reopen it. he's self important, self righteous, every self you can imagine. think about what that means. he's essentially saying that he obstructed justice. he allowed something other than facts in the law to influence his decision. that, in my judgment, is a potential crime. lou: and of course rod rosenstein refusing to turn oveg glorious -- any requested memos, comey memos by the three committees which are oversight and judiciary and intelligence. and they said well, we'll give you to midweek. it's wednesday and everywhere other than washington, d.c. midweek is wednesday. >> devin nunes threatened to impeach rosenste

horowitz and huber get the 400 investigators and the inspector general move move move.e wasted a year and now the legal process has become a political matter. it's ironic because that's what mr. mueller said he was investigating. i think it's part of a situation where we look at north korea, the border with mexico, we look at china and trade and it's like a gordian knot. for 30 years it's been so complex. we had people say we have to have this temperament and this protocol and trump comes in from the outside and like alexander the great cuts it in two and says problem solved. but he has enormous support and it's growing for decisive action on immigration, trade, the mueller investigation and we'll see what happens. lou: he seems to be the only one in washington who is or universitied toward solving problems, fixing problems, rather than handing them off, avoiding them, disassembling. whether it's foreign policy or as you suggest with north korea. soon later this month he'll meet with prime minister abe of japan. we are watching the world change in the course of about a