the last time this administration went before the supreme court on a religious liberty case was hosanna tabor. it was 9-0. you can't get them to agree 9-0 on which direction the sun rises. but 9-0 they said the administration was wrong. it's not about the law. it's about politics and it's about trying to gin up this manufactured war on women and shame on us if we let them get away with it. >> my last question, this week also some calling for edward snowden to be allowed back into this country. do you think that he's done this country a service by informing us of what was going on, that the government was lying to us about or is he a criminal? >> both. our country has a rich history of civil disobedience. in fact, most of my heroes have engaged in civil disobedience. the issue then becomes, do you face the music? martin luther king, jr., wrote his letter from jail. snowden needs to face the music. i don't have any heroes hiding out in russian airports who are sharing information with our enemies or certainly people who don't have our best interest. if you want to do something either go to a re