the so-called ceo at that time charles hoskinson and people felt that he was lying. essentially that was kind of one of the things he had told several different people that he was satoshi, nakamoto. which yeah, that's definitely a very interesting part of the story and there were there were some other conflicts but this is the backdrop to this day and one last thing i is that because they distrusted them so much they had gone on the internet and they had collected a bunch of information about him that they considered --. and so there was a dossier on charles that they'd all been passing around and kind of checking out before this big meeting. so charles is the founder of a cryptocurrency called cardano. just a little more like top 10 crypto. coin he has something called the cardano army. so laura. be careful. okay, does this work? yes. okay. can you can you hear me? oh, yeah, you can okay. finally in the early afternoon. everyone began gathering on the top floor at the long table. it was made of six long and wide bleached wood kitchen countertops arranged three by tw