host: mr.on, how does one become chief justice? guest: the chief justice is appointed by the president -- nominated by the president of the united states and confirmed by the senate, exactly the way the assess the justices a -- associate justices are. sometimes a justice is elevated, like justice rehnquist. in the case of roberts and chief justice use, they are appointed by the president. caller: good morning. everybody seems to be missing the point here. i have to buy auto insurance because i choose to drive a vehicle however, i did not choose to be born. how can i be taxed, penalized, or otherwise simply because i exist? i had no twice in the matter -- no choice in the matter. it is just not right. guest: the interesting thing about this debate is the disconnect between the arguments you are hearing outside the courts and the arguments you will hear within it. this case has less to do with the merits of national health care reform as it does with points of arcane and technical questions, such

host: jess bravin?uest: the answer would be merchants who advertise goods are voluntarily joining the marketplace. they're entering the stream of commerce. they are purchasing advertising in most instances. even if they are not paying for it, they are trying to induce sales. they have entered the marketplace. advertising is a recognized part of commerce. therefore, they would be subject to regulation. there are also fraud laws related to advertising. the challenge here is, someone sitting in their room trying to avoid any interaction with the health care industry is not part of commerce. therefore, what is happening under this law is they are being compelled, driven, forced to do something to do something that they would prefer not to or would rather spend the money on something else. that is outside the government's power to regulate commerce. that cannot create commerce in order to regulate it -- that would be the argument. host: we're talking with jess bravin, "wall street journal" supreme court corr

host: can you tell us more? caller: sure. host: why was it so interesting? i understand the caucus for the last president was 13,000 people in our state and it was estimated 55,000 this time. so there were a lot of people in there. it was great. it was really interesting . i had never done it before. i might do it again. it was good. host: thanks for telling us. go ahead and make your question or comment. caller: i will do my best. i am pretty much bewildered by everything that he has said since he has been on the air. bewildered. guest: buy my book. caller: i am bewildered because if i could address the vat tax. what that means is every time it is cut from one supplier to the next, every single time is taxed it is hidden. nobody sees it at the end of the line that this has been taxed over and over again. they don't know 50% of that item has been taxed already and then they are taxed when it goes to sail. i think that is a very difficult thing. -- when it goes to sale. guest: something you may not understand about the vowed that attacks is each time a tax is

host: good morning.ler: i was a democrat until president truman tried to nationalize the steel industry and then i switched to the republicans. i have been one ever since. i am very, very disappointed in the whole republican plethora of people running for the presidency. what i would like to know is, why can't these people get together and draft of the one man who could put obama down hands down, and that is tom coburn. i know that he is seldom terminated, his senate bid, but that does not mean he would not run for president. >guest: i know him very well. he's not only a good friend, but a solid conservative. i'm sure he would be very honored by your comment. -- i do not know -- maybe the convention would draft senator coburn. they could look at other candidates that have thrown their hats in the ring or have played with the idea of running but have pulled away from it. people like chris christie or mitch daniels. it becomes a broken convention, they could pick anybody in the country. we could see. dr. c

host: go ahead. guest: so i think that's a great way to ferret out who is selling your information by signing your name differently in different places. so i don't mean to imply that consumers don't have existing tools. if you're going on line currently there is some tools in your browser. you can delete cookies, your browsing history. sign up for the do not call registry so you don't have to get telemarketing calls. there's an association called the direct marketing association that has certain options not to receive catalog mail. we think the tools are few and far between and need to be more comprehensive. host: next up, calling from kansas city, missouri. go ahead, wally. caller: i'm originally canadian and i want to ask a question about how your recommendations will apply to nonu.s.-based citizens. and i'm also concerned sometimes in canada when we use web sites that are domssiled in the u.s. there's always reference to the u.s. patriot act. i'm very concerned about the privacy and liberty issues

host: why is that? caller: -- host: anything else to add? caller: they are doing this to stop this black man from winning the election. host: let's go to new york. scott, independent caller. your thoughts. caller: i am a democrat but i am also running for office as an independent and i believe that when i go to vote, i actually have to present an idea of some sort. so, i think obviously you have to identify yourself in some way, shape, or form. what the id is, is debatable. a lot of different forums -- forms. but it is reasonable to prevent voter fraud to have some kind of idea. host: you broke up there a little bit. you said, on the other hand -- caller: i think you have to present yourself with some kind of id two present yourself, but it needs to be the least restrictive and not discriminate against especially minority groups or other groups, of which, at the report -- as the report said, tend not to have driver's licenses and other forms of id. but you do need to identify the person who has to vote. i think it is reasonable. but to make

nagesh. >> host: thank you. now, you spoke about the need for or the result of cooperation being that you're setting a think standard. who should be in charge of setting that standard? we've seen some debate on that as part of this. >> guest: yeah. i think that's one of the real issues, right in is it a u.s.-only standard or not? if you look, i think you've got to be careful to go by what sector you're involved with. like passports, there's a global standards group, and it's iko. they do a great job of first generation digital passports, so let's leave that as global standard. as you come to the u.s., you've got a plethora of standards, some created by myths, some that are p developed by industries on their own that are de facto standards. and i think mist has a real role to play in helping us say what is the floor to what's acceptable in terms of encryption or protection of data as well as what's the policy procedures behind how you use -- >> host: okay, setting the floor itself is a base of the -- >> guest: th

host: mr. snyder guest: i think barack obama as far as his first term goes will be remembered as much for his foreign policy successes in the first term. it's been remarkable what we've seen happen. we've brought the iraq war to a responsible end under the leadership of this president we have taken steps to have a drawdown of troops in afghanistan. our military under the leadership of barack obama captured and osama bin laden's time here on earth has come to an end. and also looking at the situation in libya which i think was handled also quite responsibly no boots on the ground. qaddhafi overthrown. it's been a very tumulttuss period of time in the middle east and barack obama has been a very steady hand at the wheel throughout this period of time. and i think that young people who have come of age during kind of the post 9/11 era including myself, my very first day ever in washington, d.c. as a young intern was september 11, 2001, have profound impact on my life tofment see a president take s

host: neil irwin?uest: i am venture how much illegal drugs have to do with the europe crisis -- i am not sure how much illegal drugs have to do with their european crisis, but it is a problem on both sides. caller: why are we still subsidizing big corporations like general electric, oil companies and so and so? our congressman, paul ryan here, -- how can i put it? he is cutting benefits for seniors and all of that, you know? he goes around giving tax breaks to the 1%. host: hector, do you have a question? caller: that is my question. guest: the question becomes what are the tax policies that would make our economy stronger. one philosophy says you keep very low tax breaks on capital gains, it encouraged investments, and that would incentivize job creation, starting businesses, and that would have benefits for everyone. the alternative theory is what you are really doing is giving low taxes to the people there have less money, and the people that -- should you not lower taxes on low and middle-income pe

host: thank you. this is a call from new york city. mike is a democrat. caller: thank you for c-span. a part of me agrees with all the callers so far, both republican and democrat. each caller, i find myself in agreement with them. but i think that we have heard many democrats and republican politicians look at the iraq war as we have heard people talk about it as the worst foreign- policy move that we have ever ventured into. i think president obama is being true by pulling us out of iraq. he will get us out of afghanistan. by the next election, it can be seen as a vote on whether or not we want to continue fighting wars in the middle east. if you vote for republicans in the next election, you are voting for a party that wants to keep a strong military presence in the middle east and fighting and killing. if you vote for president obama, you are looking at a different way of handling our power pl. host: do you think the iraq war was any cause and effect between the iraq war and what is happening now

host: nebraska. line.s on the democrats' caller: when you go to the store or a meat market and you buy ground sirloin, are you getting that product? guest: you are certainly getting the cut of meat on the label, but you may be getting other types of meat that can be mixed in with thait. for example, the use of this meat product, it is a finely ground meat product that they not so affectionately call pink slime, this product can be used in 10% to 15% of ground beef. you might be getting 85% of what is on the label, but you may be getting and the mixture -- getting a mixture of other types of meat as well. host: pennsylvania. charles, republican online. caller: basically, on the wording she is using, i have studied this and the aluminum hydroxide they are using in the midst is found in many industrial products and cleaners. it does create poisons in the system that can affect airways and lungs, eyes, ears, throat, and esophagus. this is not something i think it should be fed to our children. guest: i a

host: thank you. the military town of jacksonville, north carolina. up next, arlene, democrat there. caller: good morning. host: good morning. caller: i have two things i believe i want to say. one is about the soldier in the base shootings. my sister was in the second tower hit. she didn't die. but other people did, she was injured. but, 15 seconds after it happened, we all knew in america who did it. what they look like, how they did it and all. the soldier that killed those people, we should know who did it, how he looks, why he did it. they know why. the question is do we need to come out? and i don't really think that the media is telling us what's really going on. the government's trying to persuade us that it's possible that we'll come out. but karzai is working with the government. anything that he's supposed to say so we can say we're not going to run like scared rabbits. i think this is all propaganda. and i wish you a good morning, everybody. host: thank you arlene for your phone call. she

host: thank you. whether or not america's on the decline, based in part on the new book by robert kagan. highlights from that interview coming up in just a moment. from our twitter page. . "the chicago tribute" -- it is a syndicated column. you can check out what he writes. good morning, welcome to the program. caller: good morning. america is not, unequivocally on the decline. it is strange to me that when obama became president, all republicans can think of is negative stuff appeared the economy is getting better. he bailed out the automotive companies. could they are profiting. why are they contingent to always see something negative? they are even trying to change the voting law. first time in history you have to show an i.d. host: thank you for the call. from "the los angeles times." she writes -- again, the perspective of rosa brooks. it is available on-line. we're joined from san francisco -- good morning to you. caller: am i on now? host: go-ahead. caller: first of all, would not have national

. >> host: why should we be worried about this? >> guest: our system its is undemocratic and then number of ways like the clothes primary. half of the states, 40% cannot participate and the primary. they have no say on who gets nominated. and they have more and more extreme candidates who were nominated by a party activist. coupled with the way congressional districts are drawn. the metal is totally disappearing. and able to cut deals that is why congress has a 9% approval rating. >> host: is that a fair reading? >> i think you are right. i will say that i set out to blame both sides equally. i felt both parties moved to the extreme ignoring the center. but in reporting the book the past two years, the tea party was rising during that time to make its voice heard. you had spectacular and prominent primary elections in 2010. in delaware my castle was challenged by a questionable candidate. mike castle a congressmen for many years, very popular, a centrist. it and a mostly tea party people say i don't care if mike castle loses we don

host: mark. guest: it's a great question. so first of all, the department of justice attorney general holder, assistant attorney tom pers of the civil rights division have in fact blocked south carolina through the use of section 5 of the voting rights act from implementing their voter id law. secondly in the state of wisconsin this week a circuit court judge in wisconsin in a lawsuit brought by the naacp legal defense fund issued a temporary injunction against wisconsin's new voter id law. i think there are efforts under way by the naacp legal defense fund and many, many others to pursue legal strategies to prevent many of these laws from taking effect. what i would say to people who may be out there listening and that is to find out if your state has a pending bill and argue, lobby, educate, and mobilize against the bill. one of the things we have to do is try to prevent this expansion while at the same time looking at ways to both legally and politically challenge. the third thing i might ment

host: cbs.com.e want to get your reaction as to whether celebrities have an impact on public policy. in a related piece, angelina jolie hailed icc verdict in child soldiers case. that is from google.com. baba on our democrats' line, what do you think? do celebrities have an impact public policy? caller: good morning. thank you for c-span. i have about four months and years now that celebrities do not speak out enough. they can have such an impact if they do want to speak out. look what happened to the . >> chicks -- look what happened to the dixie chicks. they are afraid of taking it in the pocketbook where they are going to -- where is going to hurt. if i was a celebrity, i would be screaming at the top of my lungs on anything from small patio big issues. could you imagine if a celebrity says, i think that the bush tax cuts should go away and that rates should go back to the clinton area. we should raise the 4.5%. kutcher but we raise the taxes up to 4.5% and balance the budget -- god forbid we rai

host: to live. jack mentions -- what impact will ron paul have on an open convention as delegates switch loyalties? we go back to the party rules that change will be saw from 2008 to to an 12. -- to 2012. host: those are the party rules. a rule number 38 indicates that you may or may not be subject to what happens in your state and that is something that rick santorum's followers are looking at carefully. at linda, georgia. steve is on the line on the idea of an open convention. caller: good morning. i want to respond to the caller from new mexico who was concerned about his social security being cut. in his other disability benefits being cut. i am a republican year have been a republican since ronald reagan. i wanted to say that all republicans and independents, stop voting against your own interest. the same programs that a lot of republicans are up the country really care about -- all over the country really care about, social security, medicare, the republicans do not like them. they do not lik

host: ok. warren, an independent in d.c. what do you think? warren? good morning? oh, i think we lost warren. we'll go next tolan caster, pennsylvania. democratic caller, go ahead. caller: i'm calling, i feel the policy is out of bounds, it's overstepping bounds. it's just a way to kill people without due process. after world war ii the israelis had many nazis they wanted to bring to trial and put on trial. they tracked them down where ever they were and they captured these people, no matter what, and they brought them back and they gave them a trial. and they proved in law that these people were guilty of crimes. then they did what they did. they executed them or gave them long prison sentences. host: ok. caller: i'm a democrat, but i don't agree with this program that you just kill people. i mean the only reason that obama is doing this is because he has the weapons to do it. host: all right. attorney general holder laid out this issue of due process. he talked about it yesterday in his speec

host: go ahead, sheila. caller: our insurance commissioner, osmgen hediner said he sent a letter to kathleen sebelius saying that georgia would not participate. i'm one of those people that needs insurance because of preexisting conditions. is there -- is the federal government going to take that over? guest: yes, sheila. you're right. he was the first commissioner to come out and say he would not go along with the high-risk pool in his state, sort of another aspect of the states' rights opposition we're seeing in a lot of states which has mostly taken, manifested itself in people saying they're going to sue about this mandate that's in the law, the mandate that everyone carry insurance. when the insurance commissioner came out and said he would not help in setting up the high-risk pooght, kathleen sebelius said the federal government would be able to do that for the state, that there is a provision in the law that high-risk pools, states will not be left without them just because their state is refusing to

host: -- thank you. host: this is in today's paper. the irs says that the best majority of returns are issued within 10 to 21 days a returns being that goal. refunds for paper take longer. the agency suggests id has fallen down -- host: host: columbus, nebraska. good morning. republican line. hello. hello? caller: hello. the problem with the jobs in the united states is not about jobs. it is about who gets the jobs because you are giving them to the people who spend the money in this country. that is how i feel about the jobs in america. a lot of people -- i am going to give you an example. in new york city, they are only hiring their own kind. the american citizens handle business. every day, the united states go to work, we are not a country. they are sucking the economy and giving it to another country. that is out there taking the economy down, the jobs down. the people down. the only hire people -- there are a lot of people coming from out of the country that do not speak english and they get the jobs. host: i tease the hiring. --

so it's not that fofe host: -- host: ok. so i've asked people on facebook to send questions for you overnight. we also have twitter and phone calls. ian on facebook says i believe global warming is scientifically proved. how much of it is caused by humans is e -- guest: here's the thing. we are right now doing everything we can. the amount of money we're spending on research /renewables. in fact it was greater than with the previous administration, the clinton administration. so that's going on, the research. i can't disagree with the lady who said but you've got to run this machine auld america in the of now pool for example is used to -- then of course you've got gas and oil. if you pull that away, there isn't enough energy to thrun country. and what's going to happen? i suggest to her that -- in fact let me just put it this way -- going back to the administration of the e.p.a., i asked her a question at one of our hearings, and that's televised. i said if we were to pass that, at the time it was, -- would this reduce the

no. >> host: let's get to the other three. you have the starbucks moms and dads, and duplicate them in virginia. >> guest: the suburbs of virginia. that, i think is the largest group. they are the real power voters and the decisive election this. these would be suburban moms and dads can the people who live in the suburbs. 50 percent, more than 50 percent of all americans now live in suburbs or exit's. only in 1980 it was 30%. so it's growing rapidly. and these suburbs are very racially diverse, increasingly so. and the suburban voters swing. they care about the economy number one, jobs, the deficit. they care about education issues they care but keeping the country safe. and they have togolese one in 2006 they voted for the democrats. two dozen eight they voted for barack obama. in 2010i think probably turned off a bit by the health care reform, the government concerned about the economy. they swung almost 40 points for the republican. so they -- >> host: some state home also i think it's. >> guest: that's right. that's right

host: go ahead. caller: i want to kind of make it personal. host: ok.ler: one of out of three american women will be the victim of domestic violence, raped, or stalked. that is the statistic. throughout the country, we have the suppression of domestic violence laws. we have this violence against women that has been passing -- a partisan vote since 1994. it is stuck in congress. the republicans do not want to pass it. now we have this new definition of rape. if you have been raped, it is not something you plan. it islike a plane crash. you do not plan to be in a plane crash. you have to come up with a new definition of rape. you have to come up with a couple of thousand dollars for this abdominal ultrasound. if you do not have this monday, it is -- this money, you have what ever punishment the government has for you. say you have twins. it is horrible. host: you sound like this is an issue you are passionate about. is this a deciding issue for you when you go to the polls? caller: absolutely. i have been the victim of rape. i have a couple of children i

host: we sure can. go ahead.aller: we were meant to be participatory government where the public did more than simply vote. i think what has happened is we have a lack of civility. there is the rudeness and brutality about our political process. it is overwhelming to me. i'm about to be 60. i used to be a news correspondent. politics has changed so dramatically. i do not rue the day i left tv news. i do not know i could bear to cover it. host: were you on a national level? caller: it was for nbc national news. i covered jesse jackson. i think, for starters, it is distressing to the extent to which, let's take the office of president has been at the mean in the senate and the halls of congress. from the shouting of, " ," -- "you lie." when people step forth proudly to say the number one goal was to defeat this president. if your number one goal is to defeat the president, then your number one goal is to defeat the party. if you allow -- it is not a question of whether you like or do not like president obama. the o

sorry if that sounds redundant. >> host: i know what you mean. his diary was very introspective and hard on himself. >> guest: hard on himself, but he was not a self-critical as he should have been of his own views and how they came across. because they were often paradoxical and contradictory and the timing was as we said often not good. i think part of what was happening, there were two stages to george kennan's fame and while most of diagnoses the soviet union which is what the long telegram did in february of 1946. the second was what do we do now given that diagnosis and that gets to the x article which is in 1947 and gets to his recommendations. the first one was an analysis of the soviet system in the second one was a prescription for the american system in response so there were really two stages here. both were equally important and he was influential in both but in both cases, the seminal document that people read is the one that he spent the least amount of time on. and that gets to the x article which was published by foreign affairs

host: george w. bush called it a something and barack obama called the 2010 elections a shellacking from the bookie right -- guest: the explanation they give for the first two years is they were so busy and overwhelmed with countering crises and dealing with policy matters and health care and the stimulus and all that that they're really sort of dropped the ball on defining these issues. kind of thought by showing their getting a lot done in making congress work, even though it was a partisan fashion, that that would reflect well in the republic -- public would see that. after the election of 2010, they realize the made a mistake. then they got sucked into a budget fight that ran about twice as long as they expected. in the debt ceiling fight for it in each instance, they really believed -- in the debt instance, they believe if they took a stand and the government shutdown, or even worse, a financial implosion worse than in greece, that we would have a double-dip recession. the first and foremost obs

host: host: a group of young women in atlanta devised more routes.ost: activities that might have been considered how these will be a -- will have a higher status. sounds a little patronizing. guest: i think there are a whole bunch of things going on. wives are grateful for their husband's cooking when they come home at the end of the day and men are cooking much more than they used to. when women are on the dating market, they have a hard time figuring out how to the sort of wear their affluence. most americans, sing the women -- single women are out during their men. you have a large percentage of them going out and trying to find out how this and the right signals to appear feminine and not quite knowing how to do that. what we know is that studies are showing that men do respect and feel attracted by earnings in a female partner. this is a news flash but when men talk about trades they considered desirable in a potential mate, domestic skills has plummeted. financial profits has risen. women have not quite gotten the message about this. i was rea

host: u.s. and representative spencer baucus, has represented alabama's 6 district -- also, some other races out of that state. in the first district, a sixth term for brooks. in the fourth district, danielle daniel bohman wins. and we are talking about competitive senate races in about five minutes or so with jennifer duffy. we will break down the top races, deemed important by the cook political report. first, your thoughts on newt gingrich's next move. the new york times has this to say about alabama's primary and other primaries -- if you are wondering why there were so many delegates at stake, that's our breaks down. a ron paul supporter, deerfield beach, florida. good morning. caller: good morning. i feel that ron paul is the only one that will get us out of the philosophy that we are the england of the 21st century. i believe that he is the only one that does not have baggage. romney could not beat kennedy for the senate seat. a santorum got demolished by a very liberal and bob casey in p

so it's not that fofe host: -- host: ok. so i've asked people on facebook to send questions for you overnight. we also have twitter and phone calls. ian on facebook says i believe global warming is scientifically proved. how much of it is caused by humans is e -- guest: here's the thing. we are right now doing everything we can. the amount of money we're spending on research /renewables. in fact it was greater than with the previous administration, the clinton administration. so that's going on, the research. i can't disagree with the lady who said but you've got to run this machine auld america in the of now pool for example is used to -- then of course you've got gas and oil. if you pull that away, there isn't enough energy to thrun country. and what's going to happen? i suggest to her that -- in fact let me just put it this way -- going back to the administration of the e.p.a., i asked her a question at one of our hearings, and that's televised. i said if we were to pass that, at the time it was, -- would this reduce the

: you used the word "nongovernmental." >> guest: yes. >> host: what kind of group? >> guest: well, what i'm talking about here is the industry group, but they've got to form some level of a clearinghouse amongst industry where perhaps the nsa or homeland security can communicate in and that they can distribute the information to the necessary groups to prevent the harm. and be as long -- and as long as it's from government to industry through this clearinghouse, i think we resolve a lot of the privacy issues. >> host: congressman terry, when an individual user on a computer, will they be affected by this cybersecurity legislation? will they have their records tracked, etc. >> guest: well, that's what we can't allow, is the tracking of the individual computer user's records. so when we look at authorizing them to look into packets for this code, the only thing they're looking at is 1s and 0s. so they don't know anything other than, oops, here's that virus code out there, and then they can develop something to block only that. >> host: now, when we talked with senator

host: jumping down in the story, eric cantor argued -- host: does this go far enough? guest: i think it does. frankly, it was already illegal. this is media-created legislation. what you own, what you trade, what you do, is already required on an annual basis and is reported. this makes a monthly, essentially. that is fine. having been in congress for nine years, i was a lot of meetings, and i never saw anything that remotely was helpful in picking stocks. this kind of knowledge does not exist, and most members do not have the time nor inclination to do anything like that. i voted for the legislation. if someone has done something wrong, believe me, congress is subject to the same laws, more scrutiny, that most people, and it ought to be. people will pay the consequences, but as far as i know no one has been charged with anything, no one has done anything. host: one last call. richard, republican here, in washington, d.c. caller: i am grateful for your public service. you could do well without all the scrutiny and aggravation, but i applaud you and hope to continue for

host: mr.sser, take the other side. guest: akhil is a wonderful and brilliant law professor and one i admire most and he made the argument on the other side quite well. if you look at article one, section eight you find four different clauses that deal with the militia. the key one is this one that expressly says congress has the power to provide for organizing, arming and disciplining the medic militia. but the commerce clause is a more modest measure that just says congress has the power to regulate commerce with fortune nations and among the several staeu states and indian traoeufrbs. and everybody understood the militia was something in which the states have primary responsibility and congress itself indicates that the states have the responsibility of officers and organizing the militia. this militia act late 18th century measure is not at all, i think, precedence for allowing the federal government to take over one-sixth of the economy. it is an ingenious argument but i don't think it car

host: reaction? guest: we have heard predictions before a new gingrich insisted he will be the nominee and south carolina and we have not heard from him since. it will be a big story of rick santorum wins illinois. we keep saying that mitt romney has to win florida or he is finished. he has to win ohio, he has to win michigan. he wins them but we have to say he needs to be better and better. every time rick santorum pulls off a victory, the headlines are bacon while mitt romney keeps talking about the inevitability and numbers, rex and torn keeps saying momentum. -- rick santorum keeps saying momentum. host: many view this as a weak field. guest: this demonstrates that there is a big divided the republican party of what kind of candidate they want. mitt romney comes across in moderate some ways and as more of a centrist. then you've got conservatives like santorum and gingrich who are to the right. the party is divided. the party is not all in lockstep. it is demonstrating there is some divide over w

. >> host: congressman lee terry, what's the legislation in the house? >> guest: there's one bill that pretty much everybody agreed to, the rogers bill that allows the nsa to communicate to industries about known threats. that has not moved. it's still in committee as we build on that. >> host: well, as you know, the senate is actively per -- pursuing legislation. the lieberman-collins and the republican bill. where do you stand on those. >> we're looking at those, but we're doing our own efforts in the house of representatives. i was on the speakers' task force, and now i'm on the goal leading with the bipartisan committee to give us the outline, and so not that we're recreating the wheel, but we want to make sure we're doing it in a little different way than the senate's doing. >> host: if the collins-lieberman bill comes to the house, what's your thoughts about that specific bill? >> guest: well, i think, you know, it -- i think that bill comes close but we're looking for a way of breaking down barriers to empower private sector internet providers, ba

note. >> host: let's get to the others starting now. >> host: you have the starbucks moms and dads and locate them in virginia. >> guest: that i think is the largest starbucks moms and dads. they are the real power voters and that these leaders of the election. these would be suburban moms and dads and people in the suburbs 50%, more than 50% of all americans now live in suburbs or excerpts only in 1980 it was 30% since growing rapidly and the suburbs are very racially diverse and increasingly so and they care about the economy number one to care about education issues they care about keeping the country safe, and the totally sworn in 2006 they voted for the democrats. in 2008 and they voted for barack obama, but in 2010, i think probably turned off of it by the health care reform growth of government concerned about the economy. this one almost 20 points for the republicans. so, they -- >> host: some stayed home also because the turnout was lower? >> guest: that's right and a turn out among independents was lower in 2010. and they are up for grabs this time around. >> host: to disting

they want a politician that tells a straight. >> host: interesting. in the fourth group, a slightly older group, group that you base in ohio. >> guest: the american first democrat. these are the reagan democrats traditionally thought of as reagan democrats. these would be the rust belt of the midwest would be a place where you would find a lot of these. although massachusetts, that is where scott brown was elected to the senate. there a lot of independent voters in massachusetts. it is a liberal reputation. >> host: there are more liberals than democrats? >> guest: yes, there are. these would tend to be lower, middle class, manufacturing-based employees, policemen, firemen, teachers can be america first democrats in the midwest, and they are more socially conservative than probably any of the other groups. they are very concerned about the loss of manufacturing jobs. they were hit hard. for example in ohio, they were hit very hard by the loss of manufacturing jobs and i think barack obama, he didn't really carry this group in 2008 but i think he sees

host: mr. strohm, when you look at the issues we have been discussing, china and testing cyber attack capabilities, fbi director warns congress about terrorist attacking -- do the bills address those issues? caller: mike made some good points. for the first time, the u.s. government identified china and russia as being behind hacking attacks. this was at the end of last year. this came out of the u.s. intelligence agencies. there has been a growing concern on the hill about the capabilities of other countries, of spies, or general hackers to be able to compromise u.s. government networks or the networks that are operated by private companies that are in the -- that run electrical grids in telecommunication networks. all of that. the bills are in debt coming up with the capability, improving the ability of both the government and private companies to prevent networks from hacking attacks -- protect networks from hacking attacks whether they're coming from nation states or criminal gangs or indiv

host: thanks. guest: i think she raises another interesting point, which is why this is particularly sensitive in the military. military service members get injured and die in the line of duty. there are really significant benefits that exists to essentially reassure the service member that if something happens to him, that his family will be taken care of and he does not have to worry about somebody taking care of his family. that is not something that the employees of the department of education or epa have to really worry about. as i said, it gets back into a moral issue. if a service member says, "we are all going to afghanistan, and my buddies families are taken care of, and my family is not," it really strikes a really big chord in the military community. >> in congress, has a but expressed interest to expedite or be allowing of same-sex couples to have benefits? guest: for the most part, you come back to basically the way things played out for the repeal of don't ask, don't tell in december

host: good morning. caller: why can we -- i think that would help the economy more than anything else. guest: i am not familiar with the credit reports. i am more focused on how we can help with exports. i am sorry. host: new york city, democratic collar. caller: why do we provide loans to corporations that move their jobs to countries where unions are banned and collective bargaining is prohibited? in colombia they would shoot a union organizer down there. these people are not allowed to form unions and collective bargaining, then they cannot form a middle class. if they can't afford a middle- class, they cannot afford to buy our goods when they come to their markets. why don't provide this kind of a loan to corporations that move? mexico, china. why? we export everything except our unions. we export everything, democracy. all of our products, our music, our literature. everything is exported, except we're not allowed to export our unions. the second question is this. we made military bases all over the

host: mr. gingrich at -- the university of cincinnati, which was released tuesday had mr. santorum at 37%, mr. gingrich at 16%. thank you for holding on. jason, republican line. go ahead. >> yes. i would like to ask mr. heath that why is that it seems to me the elite media, i think this was all started by george steff nop louse, the this whole thing about contra creptives, that just seems to be not really vent today, and the smoke screen that they have put out there to detract us from the real issues of the economy. nobody is talking about droon creptives. this is a perfect smoke screen for you guys to get us off point of the economy and how bad it is. host: mr. heath, so is the economy still a big message when it comes to those campaigning in ohio or have the social issues undercut that? >> well, we're in a primary process and a lot of them are evangelical and a lot of them are born-again and there are those dee those in a primary that's important. 7 and i just point out in my interview with g

host: power we doing?about jobs, you can make the case that 220,000 jobs were created last month and is a president obama's numbers move up. he was up to 50 percent but we also see a continuing drag on employment numbers. 8.3% unemployment and no president since fdr has been elected on those numbers. every month, the numbers go up and down for president obama depending on the news that way. if present obama is beatable and it is about what he accomplished, he could have a tough battle. if he frames the issue of us against what the republicans are suggesting, he has a better shot. host: this is our sunday roundtable, independent line, good morning. caller: i would like to clear something up. i live in the 23rd congressional district and four years ago we had an election here. we had a very conservative candidate and we had a democrat and a third candidate who was a progressive. mr. gingrich is a progressive, not a conservative. rick santorum is the only conservative and he's the one his policies will be the

host: good morning, c-span. i just what the republicans to tell the supreme court and the gas company to have a fun time. i predicted that joe biden would be vice president. -- i mean, would be president. he is vice-president. i predict now that the republicans will be pretty much wiped out -- governorships and all -- in november. have your fun, but you cannot fool the american people. thank you, c-span, for allowing me to say this. host: on the washington post, a piece of about politics. the headline was where the gop be ready for a health care when here is a local look at the health care ruling. the alabama journal constitution makes it its lead story today. the georgia ankle -- >> up, a st. petersburg. this is shot, an independent. caller: my comment is the health care law and the issue is going on with it and how easily we pay for every man, woman, and child to have a health care. we have a so much and nation- building. how rich is iraq now? they have all of the oil revenues. it is at least half a trillion .

absolutely not. >> host: that is one of the fascinating lesser-known -- >> host: the beginning of the cold war was if you build it, and this alliance which was not very powerful, his concern was that would freeze the status quo that could defend no negotiation and would be an arms race. >> host: it would mean they would be in east germany and west germany. >> guest: absolutely. he greatly exaggerated the policy of the settlement at that point. it seems to me that it was unreasonable to accept it under stalin, but in an ambivalent way, kennan did. it was going to take time for these internal contradictions to surveys. and they really didn't service for another four decades or so to the point of bringing the soviet leadership around to where he wanted it to be, which is with a fair our system is not working. but look how long it took for gorbachev to come. so that was what george misjudged was the timing of it. he also misjudged the psychological insecurity on the part of the west germans, we should have known because the new germany very well and the other western europeans that led to

host: thank you. we have about five more minutes left an open phones. stephen, a democrat emails us -- host: next up, houston, texas. caller: how are you doing? i just want to make a comment, hopefully, this time i will not go to jail again. host: getting cut off? caller: sometimes when i called i have a few problems. i'm not going to dwell on that because god is good. getting back to the gas prices, i see the arabs are about to get $150 a barrel. i don't know why are sitting attending we use a lot of will. our oil consumption is down here since he said we were addicted to oil. somehow more than two-thirds of our oil is being sold overseas. i have no problem with chevron. every time i use my card, i did discount. i love them to her -- them. we're not against wealthy people. we are against people that have ill-gotten gain. i do not appear to me preacher's talking about how jesus -- how they started beating people up the temple that were diseased. [unintelligible] the last point on the keystone pipeline

and, therefore, it doesn't get the job done. >> host: senator collins? >> guest: that is a key provision of the bill. you cannot ignore the fact that 85% of critical infrastructure is in the private sector and say that we're going to be securing our country. but we've very carefully crafted the bill so there's industry participation in drafting the performance-based standards that would have to be met. as senator b lieberman said, there's some sectors, there's some industries that are already doing it. they would be exempt from the regulation, and the department would work clap collaboratively. there is also very important information-sharing provisions in this bill, and we owe a debt of gratitude to our colleague, senator dianne feinstein, for those provisions. we need to make sure that industry does a better job of sharing its knowledge about intrusions and the threat with government and with other private sector members, and we need to make sure that government is sharing more effectively threat information. that will help. it's an essential part of o

. >> host: is it illegal to use the n-word? >> guest: generally speaking, no, although -- well, i take that back. if you use the n-word in an employment setting, for instance, if you or somebody supervisor and you refer to your work to a worker as a nigger, where you refer to black people as niggers, you may be in violation of the law by creating a hostile workplace and thereby make yourself subject to a liability under state law or new the civil rights law of 1966 -- 1964. so, under certain circumstances, you can do things which would make yourself -- which subjects yourself to legal liability, or another way. if you commit violence and in the indication of a -- the commission of a violent act refer to people using the n-word, you might be subject to hate law legislation, and thereby not only be prosecuted for assault or whatever violent act you have committed, but you might subject yourself to an enhanced penalty by running afoul of state hate laws. so, under certain circumstances, yeah, you would be in violation of the law.

host: -- host: let me share this from the campaign ads. newt gingrich's campaign is putting a lot of effort into this. this is more from team gingrich[video clip] >> it means that anybody who can tell you can drill our way out of this problem does not know what they're talking about or just is not telling you the truth. [no audio] >> if you would like to have national energy has a national aergy policy, never bowed toboo saudi king and pay $2.50 for gas, newt gingrich will be your candidate. [applause] host: on this issue, $2.50 per gallon, the president has been going after new gingrich and -- newt gingrich and others on his strategy. louisiana is next for the new gingrich campaign. guest: newt gingrich needs a win. he has south carolina, georgia. the south -- this is ripe territory for him to pick up a win. louisiana is perfect. the drilling issue is perfect down there. he has the bus with the campaign slogan, $2.50 per gallon on, on it. he proposes that if we just go for the energy sources we have here through drilling and other means o