>> host: they have. he went home the next day so they had his tune comparable did see his body. >> host: okay. how would you describe the level of satisfaction or dissatisfaction with the terry family and what they've been told and haven't been told inspire they're very unsatisfied and absolutely should be. his mother has found out most of the -- had to find out most of the information about her son's death through the very few media outlets that are actually covering this. former u.s. attorney, dennis burke, flew to michigan who visit the family and gave them the run-around and didn't give them any details. they've been denied -- dennis burke denied them victim status where they would have a claim against the government for hurting them in the sense they allowed the sanctioning of sales that got their son killed. and so they really have no answers. josephine terry is her name, brian terry's mother, after eric holder testified in -- >> host: attorney general. >> guest: she says i don't understand why you

of. >> host: okay. now, we've tried to establish through the early part of this conversation sort of meta issues, what the program was, who brian terry was, what were the circumstances of his death and what evidence surrounding that appears to suggest. now let's take this to capitol hill. for quite some time, this has been an investigatory matter for chairman darrell issa, republican of california, chairman of the government reform and oversight committee. catch our viewers up with the status of that inquiry right now, what's been achieved or what's been learned and where this story is likely to head from that congressional investigatory point of view. >> guest: right. so for more than a year now chairman issa, as you mentioned, has been investigating this from the congressional side. and he's issued multiple subpoenas, multiple subpoenas have been ignored. he's asked for 80,000 documents, he's been given 7,000 many of which were so redacted that you can't see anything. they're just pages of black paper

host: in "the washington times" -- host host: houston, texas, billy is on our line for republicans. caller: yes, sir, excuse me. host: what you think should come next in the aftermath of holding attorney general holder in contempt? what you think should come next in the aftermath of voting to hold the attorney general in contempt of congress? caller: we have all the evidence. you can go back to the march 2009 and you can see where they're coming out and they say that obama -- if you go back to the interview that they have been the news media, you had eric holder in command. you have janet a potano and several others and they said that obama funded this. obama authorized this. as far as what should be done, he should be arrested. host: also from houston texas, the independent line. caller: they probably have not been following the news much. attorney general holder, as far as i'm concerned, he is the highest lawman in the land. he knows nothing about the people in the states. if issa wanted to find out how this program started and what is going on, he would not have prevented the atf

host: your thoughts on ann romney? caller: that woman is a lady. host: all right.hank you for calling. in richmond, virginia, deborah is waiting on the independent line. caller: good morning. how are you doing? host: i am not good. thank you for calling in. caller: if we had already had women's presence, " if we had women in charge of the country, there would be no war. but, of course, the women had to know who they were. and as far as the lady who called that said she was from idaho and knew how to spell potato, i want you to know you're a beautiful person. a beautiful lady, ok? i love you. and i do not even know you. the man who just called, you know, he is a little off. ann romney, she does not know who she is. she goes along with her husband who wants to take medicaid and things like that from children. you cannot be a mother and not think about other children. host: thank you. one more comment on twitter. actual or potential for sleighs don't get candidates elected, but they can sure turn people against them. ill., foro chicago, the independent line. mike is w

host: dr. donald lindberg is the national library of medicine director at the national institutes of health and is here to talk to us today about how the nation compiles electronic healthcare records, including privacy issues surrounding them and how changes in healthcare law and technology are changing how information can be stored and owned by patients. welcome to the program. guest: thank you very much. glad to be here. host: tell us, what is the n.i.h. national library of medicine? guest: well, it's a great institution. it's actually 175 years old that was started in 1937. i came in 1984, so gotten along quite well without me for 148 years, but i hope i've made it better even since then. host: tell us, how are american health records being compiled today by individuals, by their insurance companies, medical providers, etc., and where would be the main repository for these electronic healthcare records? guest: i think the there really is no trues are repository. people who pay the bills have

host: ok.ell us your thoughts and the presidential election. caller: i wish there was a third party. i hate to vote for barack obama just because he is better than the other guy. i really find it hard to vote for somebody who thinks corporations are people. host: on facebook, your concerns are shared up next, john, good morning. caller: good morning. a the reason i am calling, i am in the military. what we think about, one of the are overseas, we protect this country. we do what we do because we love this country. i have had this conversation several times. if it is a necessity, i understand it. friends that i have had for years, we all had the same belief. we joined out of high school with the belief that the president cares more about you and your family. just about everyone else. the normal people. we need a candidate who believes in those values. obviously, i met the points where i do not know which one of these guys is telling the truth or if they even know what they're saying. that does f

host: congressman? guest: a lot of the anchor she expressed that insurance companies is widely-shared. there are huge salaries for many of the ceo's. before the health-care bill, you could not get insurance if you have pre-existing conditions. they only wanted to cover you if you were healthy or our kids could not stay on their parent'' health insurance. that is been a tremendous benefit. kids getting out of college or high school, it is tough to get a job, and to get one it is often with our health care benefits, and that is enormous anxiety for parents and insecurity for the kids. insurance companies, pre-health care bill, would be able to throw you off of insurance if you get sick. these are protections that a stand up to the worst abuses of the insurance company practices. if the court overturns it, we're back in the wild west days where the health insurance is in the iron grip of the health insurance companies, which i think is a bad situation. host: an article in "the wall street journal" -- house

host: e.j. dionne is our guest. thank you for coming in this morning. guest: i begin the book talking about decline. i think we have a lot less in us as a country. we have gone through these bouts of decline suggest we have a pretty high opinion about ourselves. fears of decline had been the underlying theme for the last 56 years. -- five or six years. ou think back to obama's slogans. one was the famous poster with "hope" underneath. when we go through the declining periods, we go to a spiritual crisis. that is why the obama campaign had a religious quality. i think we're still going through that. unemployment is still over 8%. one thing that happens is that we think a lot about the question, who are we? what does it mean to be american? we try to figure out who we are. i argue we do not know who your because we can figure out who we have been. this takes issue with the tea are.'s analysis of who we it makes sense to go back to the beginning. host: e.j. dionne writes in his book -- host: of the

host: why is that? caller: well, i mean, he said that the supreme court is not supposed to make policy but, you know, in their decision over campaign financing, they took the most sacred thing that we have here which is our election process and they turned it into a bidding war. but getting back to immigration, the republican party going back to ronald reagan used illegal immigration as a way to get voters. plus, if you look at the state of texas, you had 12 years of the bush family running of country, that is where most of your problems come from. and they bring the people in there so they can work for eight bucks an hour with no benefits, for though voting days -- as far as arizona, that was one of the fastest-growing states in the whole country based on of using the labor. they invited them over there to work and build their roads, and now it has ended, they want to deport them. you have rolled the state's -- rogue states in the country who have abused for their own power and their own self-interest.

host: why?uest: one of the things that i think this data shows is that we need to pay attention to these non--- non-traditional fields. in computer science, since the numbers have gone down in an important area, not just for women, but for every one end for this economy, there needs to be greater attention to what happens in the class room environment and how to recruit more students into those programs. host: we have some numbers provided by the aclu. title 9 fax at a glance. they show under the title, we have come a long way. host: your thoughts? guest: we have seen great expansions for women in the classrooms, particularly in these professional settings. that has been hugely important for women comic hugely important for their economic security. -- that has been hugely important for women, a hugely important for their economic security. you have to pause and really celebrate that. and we also know that young women continue to receive fewer benefits when they do play. we do know that even thou

host: duty lichtman? >> we know from the census status that nearly 15 million households in this country are headed by women. roughly 30% of those families are living in poverty. for those families, this is not some little french problem for some economically privileged people. these are people who are struggling and the wage discrimination these women heads of household experience can be very real. it is not a problem that will go away and a little while because we know for four years, all we did was get 18 cents. why should we have to live 40 more years? my 8-year-old will have retired by them. before receive a wag gap clothing. e gap closing. 74% of the people you surveyed saw this problem and we differ about how to solve the problem. host: that was the independence of women survey? guest: right, if we went downstairs and asked people whether or not there was 10 man, 10 women, if we went anyplace in this country and as people live there was wage discrimination, sabrina would agree that there is. i thin

host what has come of the case? >> guest: he's been charged with lying and he's been serving time in prison now. but nothing to the extent of taking down the cartel which is with a plan to do. >> host: have there been any other arrests? >> guest: two or three other arrests from the guys that met at the scene at brian terry's murder scene have also been arrested. they're waiting for their court case. >> host: that will be conducted where? here? >> guest: it will be conducted here, yes. >> host: are you waiting to provide some greater degree of evidence or information about what happened on that def? >> guest: absolutely need to know what happened that night and what is interesting here is going back to this secrecy of what happened the border patrol agents to withdraw and that might have issued orders not to talk about what happened so when you look at that and the indictment of the guys that were there that pulled the trigger being charged with the murder to of their names are protected and we haven't been given the

host: host: to carr. -- thank you.st: the large spending during the federal level 36 years when bush and the republicans controlled the congress probably was the beginning of this whole problem, especially for the poor. i would disagree with the caller who said this is the worst president for the port or. this situation was inherited. ben bernanke and greenspan policy, came forth from the last administration. i believe the president has done a decent job to figure how we stimulate the economy and how we get people back to work. he was in a hole when he came and. congress was not adapted to helping the situation. i would have to disagree with the caller. host: this comment off of twitter. guest: not only do we have talked about that but we have a law that is about $1.2 trillion cuts. unless congress changes the law, that is going to take place. host: willie from jacksonville, florida. fan.r: i'm not a ron paul i don't understand why the fed is not audited. as far as the bush tax cuts are concerned, president obama put t

>> host: right. >> guest: so that's what they've done, basically. >> host: you know, it reminds me, our business righter, john fahey in new york is an excellent energy writer, and he's also reading your book. and i said, hey, you know, i'm interviewing steve, any questions for him, and he brought up apple. because apple is now more valuable than exxonmobil. >> guest: right. >> host: and it's also secretive, and it's also thin-skinned. >> guest: right. >> host: but apple's cool. >> guest: exactly. you say i work on the ipod, everyone's going to crowd around -- >> host: right. and so to bring that question full circle, i mean, do you -- i mean, it's kind of a two-parter which is do you think exxonmobil's strategy has kind of tarnished the rest of the oil business and kind of people associate big oil with exxon and everybody in big oil is bad, and do you think it's spread to other companies, or in the case of apple, it seems to be kind of thin-skinned and control and secret i have and still be really hip and cool, people can like you? >> guest: yeah, it's really interesting. i went back an

host: hi. is this benny? caller: no. host: ok. then let's move on to frank, an independent in new jersey. frank, you're on the "washington journal." caller: how are you? it seems that to me from what i learned when i was in college about the american federal government is that the president is basically the commander in chief. he's the head of state. he can come up with ideas because he has, you know, his crew of people around him that are basically a think tank. they come up with ideas. they pass them on to congress. congress has all the power when it comes to the money, you know. where money with spent in this country. but as of lately, it just seems to they just don't want to do anything. and they're just playing a chess game with each other. a political chess game, trying to see who can take the complete power and then push their agenda on to the country, whatever that jeabled may be. it's been bad the past few years and it doesn't seem to be better. right now, we have a congress that doesn't work and we have a president that

is says -- host: the "usa today" story goes on -- host: give us a call.want to know what you think of these plans to possibly tax motorists for miles driven. a few comments already on our facebook page of this morning. in.bara rights writes "this will just turn the working poor." kenan farrell writes in on facebook. like i said, give us a call. a few other stories on this issue. the ongoing fight on capitol hill continues on the highway bill. i want to redo this from "the washington times" this morning. the end of june date is looming for the highway transportation bill. the article is by sean lengell today in "the washington times." host: let's go to the phones and get some thoughts. jennifer is up on the democratic line from louisville, ky. jennifer, your thoughts on highway and road transportation issues. caller: i do not agree with it. first of all, this is one thing that i believe that they cannot blame on the president, and another thing -- if congress would go ahead and approve some of these things, our situation in our country -- if they would app

host: dayton, ohio. caller: they are trying to keep eric holder from doing his job with voting rights and everything. this is the way republicans hold stuff over the heads of democrats. like maxine waters and everybody else they are pulling up on committee. they need an investigation on what the republicans are doing. are they breaking law in any way so we can see the things they're doing to break the law. i don't see them having a hearing on what was done. so leave eric holder alone and stop the bleeding that they do all the time, stop trying to hold something over his head when it comes time to vote. host: fresno, california, sherry on the democratic line. caller: the way i look at it, they should file contempt charges against bush and the republicans because they are the ones who started fast and furious and they knew about it. eric holder is the one who stopped it. issa and the republicans should be ashamed of themselves. they're making a joke of themselves. this is ridiculous. people are getting tir

it is the next book. >> host: let us know when you think about it. >> host: "the oath" comes out 2012 published by doubleday it can also watch jeffrey toobin on the cnn. the book publishing industry meets every year for the annual convention and simon & schuster have a large display here on the convention four. we are joined by a tracie and juliet to talk about the new books coming out. the former governor of california? >> most highly anticipated book governor schwarzenegger total recall coming out october 1st. his entire life story. corrupt and austria then moved to california founded the national body building industry and became a millionaire within 10 years. within 20 years the biggest movie star on a plan it. he is very candid about his personal and professional life. nobody has the story like arnold schwarzenegger. >> host: a bush you this embargo this book? >> there is a lot of interest in it. >> he has been working on it since he has been out of the governor's office. a couple of years. >> host: another author who is familiar to our viewers, judea, tell us about the book. >>

. >> host: thank you. .. to discuss his latest book barack obama the story and then take your calls, e-mails and tweets. >> david maraniss you write in barack obama the story that no life could have been more the product of randomness than that of barack obama. >> guest: it's the whole world coming together accidentally in honolulu, hawaii in 1950. a father that happens to become ill from kenya because he reads a story that describes the university of hawaii as a great place because its diversity, and a mother that has a father with a wanderlust that is never satisfied the and he ends up selling furniture than the meat in the russian class and here comes barack obama who emerges as a whole global treen amex systems until he becomes president of the united states. >> host: >> guest: in butler county is where obama's mother grew up and natalie and the rest of the store in topeka which is the state capital because he lived there for a short time. his father, the president's great grandfather was an auto repair m

host: you bet. caller: well, you know, the fact of the matter is that i felt all the viewers, that folks in congress and the senate, the president, everybody is entitled to their golden clears. how are you going to spend your golden years after 80 years old? i mean, what a joke. it's really silly, 80 years old. the fact of the matter is, if the government doesn't spend our money and the unions don't gamble it on the stock market, then you're going get -- you're going to end up getting just a few hundred dollars a month. my father went through it. my grandmother deals with it. it's not much money. you have to be conservative with your money. you have to save, and you have to save for retirement, because you can't live off -- and expect to live off your retirement from your pension from the government. it's just not enough money to live on. host: appreciate it, roger, via twitter this morning, raven, the age limit is really class war, one viewer writes, just raise the contribution limit, dealing with

host: thank you. guest: i know you want to focus on that but i want to talk about the congressional funding. the the need for funds, not only four hurricanes, but earthquakes, the worst wildfires, tornadoes, got swept up in the debt ceiling fight was summer. there was a national -- initial resistance to increase emergency disaster funds. again, that withered away because disasters do not know political parties and republican governors needed the money as much as democratic governors did. that initial resistance to top off the emergency disaster fund did cause delays last summer in getting the money out. i did think lessons -- i do think lessons were learned. he will not see that again. governor. governor perry insperr texas, he changed his mind on this. that is a lesson learned. with regard to response versus recovery. -- i think in a broad picture, you are correct. obviously, i think there is some human psychology involved here. because the worst thing that can happen to you is your car, you and your

host: let me get host: let me go back to what you wrote. a privileged positions of the wealthy and powerful are entrenched. that goes back to what you said about government spending. the economy did not turn around until world war ii. it did not turn around the great depression. guest: the new deal programs started turning the economy around in terms of policy. conservatives say the new deal would work if government spending -- to check this out of that. --- not recommending another war. concerns of the principal, government is the spender of last resort and such high unemployment. you just have to look at history. yet a point just raised -- the other point you just raised -- that is pretty strong language. i did not mean any billionaire that are pouring huge amounts of money into this election, i don't mean they are planning a coup de top. with all this money coming in a relatively small number of millionaires and billionaires and big corporations, the effect of it is to change the government as we know it, to remove the capacity of govern

>> host: i have a question. so after it doesn't seem like much is going to get done in congress with the election coming up so near. so post the election are you hoping that anti-piracy legislation comes up again? and that effort had failed earlier this year where there were two bills looking to crack down on foreign rogue sites or people based abroad that are infringing on american ip. so are you hoping that effort gets picked up again next year? >> guest: you know, that discussion is a very important one, and bsa is really at the intersection of both an industry that suffers from a substantial piracy problem -- software industry's the largest copyrighted industry in the world -- but also an industry that's at the heart of innovation. we very much believe there always has to be a balance between appropriate tools that allow actions to be taken to prevent and stop piracy, but insuring that it allows both the innovative technology to flourish and innovative uses of that technology. so we look forward to being par

host: recalled.ohn from north carolina -- from the new york -- from " the new york times" -- the essence of the story is focusing on what is happening in europe. chicago, good morning, welcome to the conversation. good morning? caller: good morning. i believe there is concern about a double-dip recession mostly from a slowing economy in europe and china but there's plenty of other markets that the u.s. needs to go after such as russia needs are expertise in drilling. we have a tremendous amount of expertise in that area. we have a lot of other companies that have a great amount of technology expertise which we need to go after in different markets that are not slowing down. south korea created a free trade agreement and let's go after them and see what kind of penetration we can make in their market. there is also companies that are developing alternative energy expertise. iere's a company in florida, drove alternative energy, which uses tides from the ocean. unfortunately, the regulations in florida

>> host: please, go ahead. >> caller: hello, anna. i feel like i know you already. i'm just a tad older, maybe a big tad like a tadpole growing into a fish. i have many questions for you. as i said earlier, i feel as though i know you already. your sister may be a younger sister, definitely younger, because i'm 78. and i've been retired since the age of 65. but i'm not really retiring. i was born in modesto, california, but i'm not very modest either. in any case, i am a great admirer of yours and of the likes of you and your writing, and all of my inspirations prior to being exposed to you was in my grandmother who was without a doubt the biggest fan of myself. and she taught me everything literally. she was without prejudice except she did not believe in religions because there were too many religious people in her family. there were jews which is, yeah, jews and italian catholics and etc., etc., scottish because her maiden name was mccumber. and it goes on and on. and they came, the mccumbers and the brights

host: why is that?aller: because he is doing the best job he can do and the republicans -- is just really political -- it's just like when the last attorney-general was very corrupt. host: how'd you think this will play out? what do you think happens next? caller: i think our president should stand by him because he has been very effective. host: let's look at a couple of facebook comments -- republicans are calling for his resignation. darrell issa is head of the oversight committee and wants to see if he can be taken to task by congress. we will look back at the history of other attorneys general. this is from " the new york times" - that is the story from 2007. democrats' line, hi - caller: mr. gonzales stonewalled a congressional hearing. he said he did not know or words to that effect. eric holder is asking all the questions that have passed and has been very forthright and has been very effective as a prosecutor. the republicans are trying to suppress the latinos and blacks and poor voters and tha

[laughter] >> host: yeah.um, as a diplomat yourself, did you have to rein in your feel beings about germans? -- your feelings about germans? are you going to give me a diplomatic answer on this? >> guest: no. it's very interesting. first of all, i never learned to speak german. i learned many different languages, french, czech, polish, and i never wanted to learn german. i was in switzerland in school, and what happened was that over the christmas -- i now understand why my parents didn't want me home in 1948, christmas of '47-'48, because too many things, i think, were going on. so they sent me to the german part of switzerland, and i didn't understand a word. and i never wanted to learn german. and i have to say because i'm also a student of history and watched what was happening inier germany i found very interesting the way that the germans were beginning to deal with their own history. and then a lot of things in life are very personal. and i have to say that one of the finest people that i met as a diplo

host: sid, thanks. we get your point about the continuing development of weapons over the course of humanity. on twitter, if sign air tax on iran's computer infrastructure or any country prevents our troopers from dying in a war, use it. next up, joe, a republican. good morning, joe, you're on. caller: yes, good morning. i'm not opposed to cyber counterattacks. however, i must say, we must respect our anglo-american legal tradition, which is based on common law, which is case by case, and i think we must approve case by case, clear and present danger. unless we can establish that, i think we should refrain from it. but if a case can be made, i think it is justifiable. host: thanks, joe. let's check in with our facebook viewers and see what they're saying about this. why is this question written in the future tense? they've been doing this for a while. the question is, why are we so naive in thinking they have not fired back? should they, no, but they are already are doing it and have been for years. and

host: thank you. john on twitter writes this. host: back to newspaper. on sequestration which is the process that c-span viewers know this of the agreement that came out of last summer's budget debate, if there was an agreement reached there would be automatic spending cuts. here's one from "the new york times" host: back to your calls. georgia is our next caller. this is leah. caller: yes, ma'am. good morning. thank you for the opportunity. i'd just like to say no, i would not sign this pledge. no responsible person would or should. i'd like to ask the american people to stop for a moment and think how are you supposed to have it both ways, say no to any new taxes or revenue, but also go to war in two different places or also create a brand new program in medicare part d. those things need to be paid for. how are we supposed to pay for them if you can't have access to new taxes or revenue in? that just makes absolutely no sense. host: thanks. dave is on twitter. he writes -- host: this is laurie montgomery. host: next is a phone call from texas. fred is

host: here's a tweet from bill. and the facebook conversation includes this comment -- raleigh, north carolina, wayne is an independent scholar. welcome. caller: this morning, glad to be able to share my thoughts about this election. the eyes of america were really on this election. i'm actually a registered democrat who has turned independent. i'm very concerned about the fiscal situation in the united states. and i watched every channel that i could last night, so i wanted to make a few quick comments. one thing is about the exit polls. in the beginning of the evening, leading up to the polls closing, you kept hearing about the exit polls, how close it was going to be. it was going to be a long, long night, maybe going until this morning before we even knew. well, america found out that was not really true. so i just a little duped when i keep hearing about the polls, about romney still losing to president obama by seven points, they say, which is cut in half, even if it is that spirit that is arguable whether it'

hosts are too close.y the time barack had we chicago whitmire was in the 10th grade, the grandfather had retired after 20 years in the furniture business in another 20 selling insurance. the glib salesman had ended his life's work which he never liked them ever did well. as a smart man who would not come close to fulfilling his potential. during the years. look at them, the grandson alternated between taking pleasure in outsmarting the old guy into its accommodation of sadness and anger, witnessing the despair of someone who was unfulfilled annual survey, mr. maraniss, there is nothing publicly excessive about their grand mother who then and always to be a significant and underappreciated influence on barack, in particular, in terms of his personality and possibilities of his life. talk could not tolerate gossip being that she kept her own troubles, her struggle with alcoholism private. >> guest: i should say and i don't mean to correct you, but it's pronounced shoot because it comes from two to. those ar

no. >> host: not misremembering things north being poorly briefed. >> guest: no. >> host: being less than forthcoming because you don't possess enough information? those are all standard and ritualistically invoked excuses within the government for communications and miscommunications. from your vantage point, none of that. >> guest: no. >> host: is possible. >> guest: you look at the evidence which i have compiled a lot of and it this is' a coverup, not coming forward with information. this isn't coming forward with admitting your department did things wrong. the one thing that the justice department has done, they've said, this was a mistake, let's move on. but the problem is that if it was a mistake, why has no one been fired? why has there been no consequence tore the people who approved this program? and why isn't president obama, like ronald reagan during the iran-contra, coming out and saying, look, this is a terrible scandal. i'm the president. the the buck stops with me. >> host: mistakes were made. >> guest: anyone who is involved in this, who should be fired, should be fir

host: ok.our other point? caller: we have heard three callers mentioned president obama's race. there are things that seems like every day it is the constant drumbeat. i'll go ahead and say that everything is bush's fault and no one has to call in and say that. we hear so much about how people are opposed to president obama because of his race. the same argument could be used for voting against women. if we keep hearing this over and over, and eventually, people are going to start to turn against any minority candidate because as though we're going to hear for four years. every time someone is a post, it is because of race. host: richard mentioned a third party and how he thought that would factor in. here is a story from "usa today" about ron paul. a congressman from texas who is not given up. he has given up on becoming president, but loyal supporters are promising to report both -- to support the libertarian- leaning republican this summer. host: his son has endorsed mitt romney. we are talk

host: we can hear you. caller: it is that that our history is going to be talking about this with politicians and their incivility and not being able to make decisions, not being able -- they have to compromise but they don't want to compromise. it is just sad that they go to this extreme so that they can -- both sides say what is best for america and what is best for america is that we get things done. that is what is best for america. i am just -- it is a sad tale that our children afterhave to see that we cannot work together to make things happen. politics, whether you like it or not, it does run the way we live in this country. host: so it is a reflection in the day-to-day process in the u.s.? caller: yes, the day-to-day process. the system, we have people in there now that will not budge because of their beliefs. they have that right, but they are supposed to represent you and me. they are not doing that. they are representing themselves and what they think. it is important that we vote for those folk

host: another your twitter host: can you provide a context? guest: stephen colbert is a comedian, and to mock the citizens united decision, he set up his own super pac, something called a better tomorrow, tomorrow. he has raised more than $1 million in his super pac. because of doing that on his show he has been very effective at making fun of those five justices in the citizens united decision as well as pointing of the collapse of our finance -- campaign finance system. he showed how he can get his super pac totally coordinated with the candidates that he wants to support. he has just pointed out the failure that we are now living in. host: our guest craig holman is with public citizen. we're talking about super pacs spending in 2012. what kind information to you put about super pacs and your website? -- put on your website? guest: we will publish information about who the super pacs chart, how much money they will pull in, the bundling money obama will be relying on, as will mitt romney, and we are in the process of starting a web page call

[laughter] >> host: you are. >> guest: yes. >> host: they hit the -- do you read the user agreement, user agreements? do you read those? >> guest: um, it really depends. like, for some thing, i've certainly read it, i use gmail, and i've read it for that. i've neglected my facebook page, to be honest. it's up there, but i don't update it very much, but i did read the pryce settings for that -- privacy settings for that. for some other things, i can't say when i go on another very well-known web site when i'm purchasing a book or a cd or something like that, that i check out the privacy policy that close because i'm not particularly concerned about the information that i'm providing them and the way that it can be used. >> host: do you think there's an effort or do you think there should be an effort to simplify those agreements so nonlawyers can understand them a little bit better? >> guest: i think that would be a good goal for companies to pursue. you need to strike this balance between simplicity, ease of use, giving people sort of the high-level points versus, you know, some peop

host: banks. let's check in with our facebook audience to see what they are saying about how the fiscal cliff is and what their concerns are valid it. -- about it -- let's go back to telephone calls. we are talking about the warnings about a fiscal clift that came from the fed chief yesterday on capitol hill. now to an independent in greensboro, north carolina. jay, you are on the air. caller: we should follow the constitution and listen to our founding fathers. the federal reserve is a bank and it makes money off the people. the irs is a fraud. we need to go back to the gold and silver standard. it is in the constitution. we really need that now. thank you. host: north carolina, joan is a democrat. you are on the air. good morning. go ahead, please. back to twitter -- in the financial times this morning there's a column with the headline -- krugman,ing about paul the times columnist. here is what he writes -- that is the heart of what we are talking about this morning with you. is the prescriptio

host: we have a minute left. this is from john in north carolina -- guest: what we need to do is stop the out of control spending, because right now the current tax rate will become the greatest tax increase in the history of the country. if we fail to keep the tax rates where they are, the average household is looking at a $3,000 per year tax increase by january 1. i don't know people who can afford that when gas is $3.60 a gallon or whatever it is in your neighborhood. that's what it is in mine. an additional $3,000 to go to the government. place that is spending billions of dollars per year in fraud just in one state along on medicaid, this has to end. the answer is not for us to give up more of our own money to the federal government. the answer is for the federal government to get its act together. when you have an out of control situation, you don't feed the fire. that is what we have to do. we need to get some more common sense into this government so the government starts reflecting the lifestyle of a lot

host: okay. we have answered a few of these questions. i will read the tweet -- host: what does it permit the president to keep secret? can he declared it over anything? guest: absolutely not. the congress would be out of business as an investigating body of the president could claim it for anything. what happens is as an investigation goes on, in this case, what attorney-general holder will not turnover -- he has narrowed and narrowed and tell it comes to one court category, which is the deliberation about how to respond to the house republican 's inquiry. you cannot say no to congress. you have to narrow down what you will resist on. host: the front page story in " the washington times." the house committee investigating fast and furious has received 7600 documents by republican lawmakers say none approved the gunrunning probe of -- host: in your view of this, do you expect it to be solved? is there any historic process? guest: there have often been solutions reached at the 11th- hour, so to sp

thank you. >> host: marcon at thank you. and his sentiment reflects the tea party issues. >> host: i have no idea what the heck he's talking about, but i would say i like civil rights. i think civil rights are great. everyone should be treated equally by the government and i think more importantly there's a government that wants to use taxing and spending power which is an enumerated power to enact programs like medicare and social security, then great. we can have that debate in the arena of politics and political branches. but there's a difference between that and using power regulate interstate commerce and enforce people to buy commerce. there's serious constitutional differences between some of the things that have tried to be done by the obama administration today versus things in the past. a lot of people just been too brought of a brush with the tea party. they don't understand the tea parties concerns earlier cons to too small. they are subtle, but important people don't understand the constitution anymore. much les

. >> host: madam secretary,. >> guest: it's wonderful to do this with you. >> host: 50 million year old, just being sworn in when you learned your parents were born jewish and some on your family were killed in the holocaust. it was a painful period. what made you go back to it and write a whole book on the subject? >> guest: well, because i didn't think i had all the answers then, and let me just explain a little bit of the context. when i was ambassador at the united nations, i had not been a public figure. some people asked -- then there were letters that would say something about the village that my parents were born in, but everything is wrong in them there never was a letter that had all the facts, and then somebody saying they'd gone to high school with my father in 1950, which would have been impossible because he was born in 1909. but in november, '96, when i was being vetted to be secretary of state, i got a letter from somebody with all the right dates and i was being vetted to be the secretary of state and i was in the white house counsels office, and they asked me if i pad

host: yes, sir. caller: i was very happy the law was upheld, but i still feel there will be a lot of people left out. as some of your speakers have already said, some states have barely implemented the changes because they feel the law will be struck down. at the end of the day, there will be a lot of people left out to dry, but overall i'm very happy the law was passed. because the insurance companies and my personal opinion did right by people, the government wouldn't have to step in. host: what is very frustrating for people who live in the health policy world day in and day out and then see how the court looked at this is the health care system in this country is extremely complicated. and they never decided to have universal coverage, basically where everybody gets together and agrees they're going to pay collectively for everyone to have health insurance. we didn't go that direction, we went the direction of having a lot of private coverage and public coverage. we have a hybrid system. as we tr

and starts with norman mailer. >> host: did you pick the title? >> he pic to the title and very, very deliberately chose not to use the word in the title and has a great piece at the end of his introduction why he did this . >> we are excited about our new book because she has not done a book says barack obama has been in office. although as an icon of the conservative movement a hero to those on the right to. she was very passionate to talk about the shutdown on religious freedom. obamacare requiring contraception, military cemeteries, military chaplains, the section of the federal government and her argument is the federal government is exercising overreach to intrude restitution as zero or individuals should be allowed to choose. but to practice and have religion not be excluded but part of the dialogue as long as everybody is allowed to practice what they want. religious freedom and tolerance is what she is concerned about. it is another hot topic that is why we rash it out also coming out at the end of july. no higher power. that there is no

>> host: right. one of the biases you see in this campaign is the biased word independence and sort of the silent center and moderates. and you sort of say that's a bit of a sham. >> guest: yes. i am not part of the cult of the center. i think that there is this absolutely bizarre fetization that i think many people in your profession are part of the problem. i think there are a lot of mainstream, honest, decent political reporters and journalists and gray beards and, you know, david gergen types who see because they believe themselves to be centrist -- and many of them actually are -- they give a price of privilege to the metaphorical center in american politics. a, i don't think it deserves it. i mean, let's put it this way. i think anybody who knows anything about politics knows the most contemptible people in politics, the most ridiculous people in politics are those idiots after the third presidential debate in late october, whenever it is, who form a focus group, who are the last undecides, who

host: ok. what congress can do to create jobs, looking at things like tax cuts for small businesses. what ranked high? guest: i do not know if americans have a lot confidence in congress. -- whatident's rhetoric should congress do? the most popular response was to give small businesses tax cuts. fact, almost twice as much support the what the democrats have been pushing to help spur economic growth. guest: it is another question about whether people want to see higher prices on their goods if they are imported from asia or anywhere else. host: what is keeping family income down? guest: the number-one response said a lot of impact is coming from economic competition involved. there was a sharp division between democrats and republicans. host: the decline of unions, whether or not that figure is ths in. guest: that is lower than other responses. unions are having a tough time. there is pushed back on unions. half.support cayman halme in host: epa regulation of greenhouse gases. guest: this will b

host: thank you. from our twitter page -- host: we will get to that in just a moment. "the washington post" has a lengthy piece on judy woodruff's interview with john mccain. allison is on the phone from atlanta. good morning. caller: the morning. -- good morning. i have been calling to say that our congress is bought from wall street. they are sitting in the highest seat over our federal treasury, making decisions over what happens with our tax dollars. they have come american wall street industry out of money. look at the way the election is running. all of these politicians in the republican party are not even real politicians. there are bought and paid for by koch.h andan the lobbyists are paid money to sway voters. are you kidding? john mccain slipped through the last few years. give me a break. host: thank you. gary burley from hawaii. good morning. caller: how many years has it been this way? we're just now realizing it? host: is is the first presidential cycle where the assistant united case i

host: go ahead.aller: the question i had before was the guy said about immigration -- he had come up in 1971. thank god i had the proper way to come in legally. what president obama is doing to get reelected. the other guy said hundreds of guns going from the united states to mexico and no one is checking them when they go to mexico. hope is gentleman, i republicans take care of it. guest: i think i agree with the caller. we cannot reward folks who come here in violation of our law. we have to create immigration policy. we are going to have a thoughtful process where we make decisions about who and how many folks can come to our country over any given period of time. my family to a couple generations back most of us came to america but they came here legally. host: john is a democrat, good morning. caller: good morning. how are you? the congressman admits that he ran a small business with a couple hundred people. the health care bill was going to make it difficult for his situation. i thought that he

. >> host: well, from time ttime on booktv we like to invite sara weinman who ishe new ctfblrs etetoian up oe ness of books. sara weinman, thank you again for coming on. we appreciate i. guest: it's always a pleasure peter, thank you. >> host: if we could, start with the google settleme and where do we stand with that, what are thssar >>stththst oothurtu gooose is that we're going right back where we started from about seven years ago. so judge denny chen recently agreed that theuthors guild who are one t plaiif d stng iki astiui nohas en everything was going along for several years and judge chen had actually left. he got promoted to the appeals court. but is was one of his last outsnding cases and he decithheoral ttnt noo w ndry h ta ohey had to refile the suit. the aap decided to file it in a different way from the authors' guild. there were rumors that there were going to be separate selements. soow thatheut' g tag,t'esia keep chugging along and it's possible they may be moving towards a trial date of september, but we just don't know so developments are slow ju as theyernyea a >> h

host: when did you notice the change?>> there wasn't that much of a change in the 1980's and 1990's despite a lot of excitement. we had impeachment and the reagan years. you did not see this partisan way to start to open up until the mid 2000's, a first term of torched of the bush's administration 1 democrats and republicans started to get farther and farther apart in their views and that has continued and continued in the obama years were now we see republicans and democrats disagreeing about more and more, not just policy debates but broader values. >> there is a chart here about where partisan divisions are the largest. it talks about 1987 or verses today. the lighter shade here is a 1987, the darker shade is the present. the idea of a social safety net on top of the list, what are you saying here? guest: the survey asked a series of questions about how the government has a responsibility to help people can't take care of their cells or have fallen to the claque -- or have fallen to the cracks. this has always divided