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let me bring sunny hostin and danny cevallos back in. danny, let me start with you. watching that defense attorney question those different witnesses, where did defense really score? where did they do the best job here? >> well, you start with the idea behind a preliminary hearing. it's not a trial. the odds are skewed against the defendant. so with the idea that most preliminary hearings result in a judge holding the case over for trial, because the prosecution's burden is light, the defense attorney here did a terrific job of obtaining what we call discovery. he was able to question the lead detective, who did a good job testifying on the stand, but the defense attorney was able to lock him into his testimony, which, because it's under oath, can be used later on. and the defense attorney did a textbook example of locking him into his testimony and putting a cap on the facts for later on at trial. on the other hand, the prosecution did a terrific job of introducing motive evidence in this case, and also, as we're hearing, probably introduced just enough evidence to

cnn legal analyst sunny hostin and danny sevellos are back with me. harris, she also admitted to police that she also had looked up websites about kids dying in hot cars. she says she has an explanation for that. we also learned about a couple of life insurance policies on baby cooper. one of them, $2,000, one of them, $25,000. so is that enough to have lyon th leanna harris involved more in this case? is it possible leanna harris may find herself charged in this terrible crime as well? sunny, i'll begin with you. two things that stood out to me yesterday as the evidence came from the investigator. this is the prosecutorial side of things. when she went to pick up cooper at the day care and they said to her, ross didn't drop him off, her immediate reaction was, oh, my god, he must have died in a hot car. those are my words, but i'm paraphrasing pretty accurately according to the investigator. who thinks that right away? >> no one, no mother prp. i think your reaction would be, really, let me call my husband, i don't know what's going on. that leap was

. >> sunny hostin and ashleigh banfield also standing by. i tell you, ladies, i have pages and pages and pages of notes here listening to this. i don't know where to begin, ashleigh banfield. is it with the three minutes it took him to go from this chick-fil-a with his little son who was happy and walking through this restaurant to work, or to these videos? or to the sexting? >> i'm beyond the drive. i'm beyond the drive. i lost my lunch at the insurance policies on the children. i lost my lunch when the mother had the reaction before knowing anything about what happened and getting to the daycare and saying the child must have died in a hot car. i lost it when there was no reaction from either of these two parents and yet strangely when they were talking together and didn't think anyone was listening, the father said to her "i dreaded how he would look." and that's according to the investigator on the stand. i could go on and on. but when you talk motive and you've got somebody who is looking on a website for advocating living child-free, w

sunny hostin, jane velez-mitchell. sunny, first to you.udge said there was insufficient evidence. the plots of raping and cooking women are fantasy online role play, that he wouldn't actually carry them out. how do you prove that? >> you know, i've got to tell you, brooke, i was at this trial. i covered it for cnn. i sat through the trial. i heard the testimony. i was there are to the verdict and i was shocked. shocked that he was convicted in federal court of this conspiracy to commit cannibalism. >> you were? >> it was very clear to me that these fantasies that he had, albeit very creepy and he never completed what he was talking about, kidnapping, raping, and eating women. we're talking weird stuff here but i i don't think the state proved its case and i think the judge got it right. >> this is what was said outside of court yesterday. yes, he had unconventional thoughts but we can't be the thought police. jvm, do you agree? >> i agree. listen, if you're going to throw men in jail for looking at hideous porn, you better build more jails

. >> i want to bring in our legal analyst, sunny hostin and paul kalin. dangerous to judge guilt or innocence by how a parent reacts. i mean, some parents freeze up, some parents, there is no one correct way to react. >> no, there isn't and as jeff toobin said, if there were the only bit of evidence, it would be a bad piece of evidence but as a prosecutor, every case that i prosecuted. every murder case. the behavior was a big thing in the case. and if the other evidence is strong, the behavior post killing will often sink the conviction -- >> so the fact you had the dad making a call while his son is lying on the ground and didn't call 911. >> not only that but another theory, if he came back to the car at noontime and knew the child was dead, all of his other actions he was faking. he was pretending when he pulled in he discovered the child. that is consciousness of guilt. a an odd behavior after a killing is a sign someone is guilty. you need more evidence but it's good evidence. >> you're particularly drawn to the wife's comments. >> as a mother mysel

let's bring in cnn legal analyst, sunny hostin and mark geragos and paul keown, and criminal defenseorney, holly hughes to talk about more about this. sunny, you were listening to this testimony, your reaction. >> i think it was pretty shock, jake, quite frankly. we knew the prosecution had indicated that it had something, it had some sort of motive. they had some sort of theory that this was intentional. now we know what their theory is. we know that they believe that this was a malicious act. that this was an intentional act. that this man wanted to live some sort of child-free life. that he was having troubles in his marriage, that he was having troubles financially. that he just wanted o out. and i think that is a significant surprise to everyone that's been watching this case, because we now know that these hot car deaths happen all the time. it's almost at epidemic proportions in our country. we know just last year, over 40 children died this way. and ting question on everyone's mind, certainly the question on my mind was, how could a father intentionally bake his boy in a car?

sunny hostin, mark geragos, good discussion. thanks very much. up next, more on the mother and, as mark said it, it bears repeating, leanna harris has not been charged, not named as a suspect, but some of the details are truly eye opening. jason carroll goes up close. ups is a global company, but most of our employees live in the same communities that we serve. people here know that our operations have an impact locally. we're using more natural gas vehicles than ever before. the trucks are reliable, that's good for business. but they also reduce emissions, and that's good for everyone. it makes me feel very good about the future of our company. ♪ >>> more now on leanna harris. as you saw with her legal team, the behavior before and after the fact is hotly disputed. and the couple's relationship is also coming under scrutiny. details from jason carroll. >> leanna harris' demeanor in the days before and after her son's death was odd. and raised potential red flags for authorities investigating the case. she's not been named a suspect in connection

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. >> we'll bring in sunny hostin and holly hughes. so let's begin tonight here. much we can talk about between the sexting, between possible involvement or questioning about the wife's role of financial issues in the marriage about lack of sexual intimacy issues is of the marriage in and of itself. three minutes apparently from this breakfast that morning to when he got to work. so let me just begin, holly hughes, with you. what was the number one thing that stood out in this three-hour hearing? >> that the state finally told us a motive, brooke. last week we all heard that it was an accident and people were, you know, i can understand that. they were sympathetic to this detective. but today, today the state laid out piece by piece, they built up that brick wall and they spelled out for the potential jury which, let's face it, they're all watching this, why you would have done such a horrific act. that's the number one takeaway from today's hearing, i think. >> sunny hostin, what do you think? >> i agree. i've been saying all along, this is something that happens

sunny hostin, mark geragos, good discussion. thanks very much.next, more on the mother and, as mark said it, it bears repeating, leah harris has not been charged, not named as a suspect, but some of the details are truly eye opening. jason carroll goes up close. firt power plant in the country to combine solar and natural gas at the same location. during the day, we generate as much electricity as we can using solar. at night and when it's cloudy, we use more natural gas. this ensures we can produce clean electricity whenever our customers need it. ♪ you fifteen percent or more on huh, fiftcar insurance.uld save everybody knows that. well, did you know words really can hurt you? what...? jesse don't go! jesse...no! i'm sorry daisy, but i'm a loner. and a loner gotta be alone. heee yawww! geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. jesse? >>> more now on leanna harris. as you saw with her legal team, the behavior before and after the fact is hotly disputed. and the couple's relationship is also coming under scrutiny. details fro

sunny hostin is joining us as is brian stelter, host of reliable sources. welcome to you both.ou, this one story, it got our whole morning meeting fired up. sort of arguing both sides. my first question is this, you buy a ticket to the ball game. i imagine there's all kinds of fine print on the back, not that i have ever looked at it or you're going to any televised sporting event. does that mean you're fair game to be poked fun of in the stadium or on live tv? >> you really are. you're in a public place. it's not as if you don't know you're in a public place. i've been to yankee games. some people want to be on television. you do the dance. they go around the stadium. >> i'm guessing this guy did not. >> he maybe did not want to be put out there in this way, but the fact that these commentators saw him, the fact that he's on television, the fact that they really didn't say anything that disparaging, that defamatory, you know, i think he's out of luck on this one. >> here's part of it, brian, part of the lawsuit, mlb who is also listed as a defend, they posted the youtube video

. >> i want to bring in our legal analyst, former federal prosecutor sunny hostin, paul callan. it is dangerous to judge guilt or innocence by how a parent reacts. some parents freeze up. i there is no one correct way to react. >> well, no, there isn't. and as jeff toobin said, if that were the only bit of evidence, it would be a bad piece of evidence. but i will tell you this. as a prosecutor, every case i prosecuted, every murder case, the behavior of the defendant after the murder was a big thing in the case. and if the other evidence is strong, the behavior post killing will often sink the conviction in the case. >> in this case you have the dad making a call on the other side of the car while his son was lying on the ground and didn't even call 911. >> not yoyonly you have that, b if he came back to the car at noontime and he knew the child was dead, all his other actions he was faking it. all of that is what the law calls consciousness of guilt, an odd behavior after a killing is a sign that somebody is guilty. you need more evidence than that, but it's good evidence still

sunny hostin, danny cevallos, thank you so much. see you back here in a bit. much more coverage on the trial. we'll talk to someone in 20 minutes sitting inside the packed courtroom in georgia. how did his wife respond when she heard about the sexting allegations and the biggest gasp among those in the courtroom. >>> and tensions rising in marietta, california, protesters lining up. the city this new battleground for this immigration debate. a bus full of undocumented immigrants is scheduled to arrive any moment. we are live there. we will see what happens when that bus arrives as they square off, potentially. >>> and hurricane arthur gave us a holiday scare. there was certainly some flooding. thank goodness no lost lives. are we out of the woods yet? we'll talk to chad myers, coming up. she keeps you on your toes. you wouldn't have it any other way. but your erectile dysfunction - it could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the sa

cnn legal analyst sonny hostin and michelle turner. andy, i want to start with you.has been astounding. people are very angry including lots of men. >> as they should be. female audience for the nfl has gained. who are the true loyal fans? it is mainly males. i think the men outrage has been so much because men know what players get suspended for traditionally for an illegal hit, smoking pot. but only suspending ray rice for two games the nfl is basically saying smoking weed or illegal hit on the field is a worse crime than basically an uppercut punch to a woman which is just outrageous. >> it is insane. michelle, when you heard about this what went through your mind? >> huh? that is what went through my mind like seriously, you think about it. andy is right. if you get popped in the nfl for steroids you get a minimum of four games. i think this actually lends to a hypocritical situation for roger goodell. he doesn't come out looking good here. remember when ben roethlisberger was accused of sexual assault, not arrested or charged, he was suspended for six games and

sunny hostin, not only did the father search on the internet for what temperature in a car could chillhild. we know the mother did some kind of internet search along those lines as well. >> sure. i'm a parent, i have a beautiful wife. we are loving parents who tend to be neurotic, i can't imagine ever doing a search like this. >> i can, and i think there are going to be first time parents that relate to that, i can tell you that when my children were born i did searches on drowning deaths because we go to a lot of pool parties. if i then take my child to a pool party and my child drowns, did i plan that? was that intentional. you have to look at it that way, but i will agree that it's going to come down to the timing. did he search. a week or a month before, it's awfully strange. >> it's awfully strange and it's awfully strange if he went into his office after he left the boy in his car and did it then. i think it's really about motive in a case like this, we know this happens so very often. we know last year, over 40 children died this way. i think if you're the prosecution and you ne

. >> let's see what our cnn analysts thing, paul, sunny hostin and mark geragos. we talk about this probable cause hearing tomorrow and there is this notion and i think police hinted at it, that they have more, that they haven't told us yet. do you expect that whatever that is, if that, in fact, exists will be enough, you know, to meet the standard they need to meet at the hearing? >> i think unquestionably they will meet the standard because i believe we know enough already to meet the standard, if i could just for 30 seconds lay it out for you. we know that he takes the child to breakfast in the morning at chick-fil-la. three and a half minutes later, he and the baby pull into the home depot parking lot. the father says he forgot three and a half minutes after having breakfast with his 22 month old baby he was in the car. the father goes inside the home depot, comes back out to the car over two hours later, opens the front door of the car. now that baby was roasting in the hot georgia sun for those two and a half hours, the smell from the car would have been ove

let me bring in cnn's legal analyst and former federal prosecutor sunny hostin. said she went in to get a haircut -- you knew the facts of the case but hearing it out loud -- >> i think you draw the legal line in terms of intent when you talk about these hot car cases and we've been talking about them often. when you talk about the decision to leave your child in a hot car to get a haircut, to go on a job interview, to go shopping, that i think then does draw, of course, the legal line into negligence, criminal negligence. >> should police have been called? >> i think so. >> even though she convinced them not to do it? >> i think so. also, i want to mention that it's really incredible that the good samaritans got involved because often times there's a good samaritan law in many jurisdictions but not all of them where if you get involved and something bad happens, let's say the glass cut one of the children, you can be found criminally liable for your actions. tennessee has these wonderful laws -- >> let me read what the tennessee law does and you can explain it t

joining me to analyze this, sunny hostin. judge alex, we just heard from the friend of justin ross harris. you heard him there. a lot of people are coming out of the wood work to defend him. what does that tell us? he believes harris is the last person who would intentionally harm his child. >> from my perspective, that tells us absolutely nothing. think about it. how many times have you seen something as horrible as a serial killer and the neighbors, how many times do the neighbors come out and say, you know what? i saw it coming. i tried to warn people but nobody would listen. they never do that. the neighbors and family and friends say he was such a mild mannered guy. i never would have expected this to happen. people don't know what is in someone's heart. this may be a tragic accident or a horrible, horrible crime. that's what we need to determine in this case. what was his state of major? was it accidental? did everything brain dead? or was this something intentional or reckless? that's what makes it a claim. >> we know

sunny hostin has come on tv and said hey, i accidentally did this. her child is fine.ut she says from here on out, she takes off her shoe when she drives with a child in the car and remembers to put it back on which trigger the memory you have a kid in the car. there is a point you bring up in your piece, so many different dings and flashes and lights in a car that remind us to bucklel up, et cetera. why not have something to help remind a parent there's a child in the back seat? >> right. and we were sort of looking at the parallels, too, in 2018 all new cars will be required to have a rear visibility standard or technology so that you can prevent backing out and over children and elderly people. so why not have something like that? well, a couple things. number one, when you talk to government officials, they say that technology is not there yet. they said they did a big test in 2012, and looking mainly at sensors that would detect the presence of an infant, and when you leave the car, there would be some alert. they were saying they were not quite reliable. safety a

joining me again "outfront," our legal analyst, sunny hostin, ben anthony and craig ferguson, and a new're new. let me start with you. what do you think about what karl rove had to say. that when your back's against the wall and you don't want to have a fight, you say, if you pick a fight with me, you're a racist? >> as we say in texas, karl's an expert on reprehensible behavior, so i'll let him speak for himself. the person who knows this best is not mr. rove, but our president. here's what he has said about this. he did an interview with the new yorker back in jan, and a terrific interview, one of the best interviews president obama has given. but here's what he said on this topic. he says, there's no doubt that just really dislike me because they just don't like the idea of a black president. but the flip side, there are some black folks and maybe some white folks who really like me and give me the benefit of the doubt precisely because i'm a black president. and i think that's right. it's a double-edged sword. in the main, most of the people who oppose him oppose him on issues and p

. >> joining me now, cnn legal analyst sunny hostin and calm tarot greg anthony and ben ferguson. start with you. the expression here "take your country back" that's what the attorney general specifically referred. to is that expression racist? >> i think it can be, depending on the context, but we've heard it in all different contexts, right? but i think his main point was that there has been this level of vitriol, this level of aggression towards our president, towards the office, towards our attorney general that does have a racial component. anyone that says that there hasn't been that racial component is simply naive. remember, this is the same president that they claimed was born in kenya and was a kenyan citizen, asking for his birth certificate, asking for his law school transcript, asking for his college grades. you know, jan brewer is waving her finger in his face. these are actions in my view that no question -- >> you don't think would have happened to a white president. >> of course not, and they speak to the issue of race that we have in this country. >> greg, let me

mark geragos, sunny hostin, thanks so much.nt even beyond the unusual nature of this case. >>> coming up next on "new day," lawmakers up against the clock as they consider immigration reform before a month long recess. we're going to ask white house officials anything can get done, she believes anything can get done before the end of the week. in new york state, we're changing the way we do business, with startup ny. we've created tax free zones throughout the state. and startup ny companies will be investing hundreds of millions of dollars in jobs and infrastructure. thanks to startup ny, businesses can operate tax free for 10 years. no property tax. no business tax. and no sales tax. which means more growth for your business, and more jobs. it's not just business as usual. see how new york can help your business grow, at startup.ny.gov lactaid® is 100% real milk? right. real milk. but it won't cause me discomfort. exactly, because it's milk without the lactose. and it tastes? it's real milk! come on, would i lie about this? [

sunny hostin, which is it? is it self-defense or is it an accident?r as a concept, but how do they go together in this trial? >> i don't think he can have it both ways. initially i thought well maybe, because he doesn't want to be found guilty of anything, right? if it's an accident, is it manslaughter f it's self-defense can he then be exonerated of everything? i think he's trying to have it both ways but when you ask the average person, those are the people that are on the jury they're going to think you can't have this both ways. was it an accident? did you know that the gun was loaded or not? >> mark, what do you think? can it be both? >> yes, it can be both. sunny's right, though, to the degree that most people think at least superficially that -- >> mark just said i was right. >> only to a degree, as usual. >> well said. >> the problem is, is that they're going to get a jury instruction and the jury instruction is going to guide them and when they look at the law, and jurors are very, very meticulous when they come to look at the jury instructio

let's weigh through it all with sunny hostin, a former federal prosecutor and parent. this point in time, we have to have a zero tolerance for if i form of disparagement based on race. what is good for the goose is good for the gander. had it been a white student in black face, a white student dressed in a typical sort of stereo typical black cultural way, we would be up in arms, right? everyone would be furious, and so the fact now that it's sort of been spun on its head i think is wrong. >> i'm going to put a little chris cuomo, point, counter point. she said it was meant in fun. >> doesn't matter. doesn't matter. it's not funny. >> she also, if you just look at the images they're just of average clothing, what have you. it's the hashtags -- >> it shows her intent. >> that shows more intent. if you just took the pictures there's nothing disparaging about hockey playing and wearing a yale -- >> that's right. >> -- t-shirt. >> i think when she puts her intent out there by hashtag and we know, we know, right, that what we mean when we sort of hashtag it. it does it. it'

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to discuss lonnie koombs, sunny hostin. sunny, you're here.ften said, i've interviewed so many victims of crimes. i've interviewed a lot of defendants, and you never know how someone is going to react after a tragedy. so i don't think you can read too much into her reaction. she has reacted suspiciously by, you know, and oddly some of the thing she said at the funeral like i don't want cooper back if i could have him back. that was very strange to many people at the jailhouse. >> suspicious and odd are different things. >> yes, they are. that statement was probably both. at the jail she told her husband did you say too much? she sort of came out forcefully in support of her husband. many people thought that was odd and perhaps suspicious as well. you can't read that much into it. >> lonnie, her husband not mentioned in the letter. a man is mentioned in the letter and his name is richard jewel who we all remember was a man falsely accused in connection with a bombing where you are right now in atlanta. and what do you think that meant both the

let's discuss with our legal analyst, cnn legal analyst sunny hostin, former federal prosecutor, markple question, tough answer. did the prosecution make the case? >> i think there's no question about it. what i loved about the prosecution's case, chris, they tried it tightly. we see the murder cases that go on for weeks and weeks and weeks when you don't have that complicated set of facts. we're talking about a woman who was looking for help, got into a car accident, knocks on a door, and gets shot in the face from inside the home through a locked screen door. that is the kind of case that prosecutors need to try the way they tried in this case, tightly succinctly and i think there's no question about it that book ending it, ending their case with the medical examiner's testimony was crucial. she was shot in the face, grave injuries, and most importantly, i think, no injuries to her hands. that flies in the face of this defense argument that she was aggressive and banging on the door. >> boom, boom, boom. >> boom, boom, boom, to the point where he feared for his life. >> sounded like

let's bring in our legal analyst sonny hostin and joey jackson to bring this in.rt of this, more in a moment. sonny, is law really on the nan nanny's side? er the family lawyer says it may be. >> absolutely the same law from state to state. when somebody has established residency in your home, you can't kick them out. have you to go through a legal eviction process. you can't say you've got to get out and get out tomorrow. i think that that's something that a lot of people don't realize, and what's so fascinating about this story, you know i have children, i have a 19, i've had au pairs. they are like a member of your family. >> sure. >> sometimes i feel like i would rather my husband go because my nanny goes. >> she said, it on television. >> do you believe it? >> she is my wife. i depend on her, and, you know, it's -- it's every working mother's nightmare, quite frankly this, type of relationship, really are in a relationship with your nanny goes sour. >> here's the thing, joey, he said, she said. the family says they fired her and the nanny says that she quit.