hotez.hat has to do with this idea that we heard from governor desantis, and maybe others, as well, that maybe you try to treat people on board those ships instead of bringing them ashore. we do know that one of our own military ships, the theodore roosevelt, is seeing a huge surge in cases. we might hear from the navy this hour, we are told to expect, potentially. their latest on what they are trying to do aboard a very giant ship, as well. with the reality of treating it on a ship? >> dr. hotez: this is a new virus agent. it's not just a matter of treating it, it's a matter of -- >> i can't hear a thing. >> dr. hotez: this is where things become somewhat problematic. we've all heard about the cruise ships were huge numbers of patients are becoming infected. this virus seems to channel rapidly through cruise ships and in fact large numbers of people. would that be the same on a military ship, or do they have more additional measures that they can use? that is the problem of managing patient

hotez, when someone develops this vaccine and it works.you imagine people will be clambering for that vaccine. explain how it will be prioritized and who gets it and when? >> i think likely that that we'll be in the 2021 will ever we have such a vaccine and scale up and that's optimistic. and remember we may have more than one vaccine. you got 20 or 30 that are going through the pipeline and 80% or 90% will drop off. >> who'll get to it first though? >> what you will see is certain vaccine may be better than certain population. one vaccine may benefit older americans for instance. some may work better for those under lining disorders and some may be a pediatric vaccine or one that'll work quickly for healthcare workers. i think we should not expect just to see one single vaccine at the end of this and several different vaccines and each with different shreds of weaknesses and sorting it out of who gets vaccinated first. we know healthcare providers need that protection so they can feel safe going to work. they would be prioritize. >> dr. h

hotez, can you take us through this new development? who is it for? and how do we know it will work for everything. >> the drug works by interfering with the production of rna. the covid-19 virus. the sars 2ally designed with the viruses in mind. they released very exciting information that it seems to be shortening the length of illness in the u.s. it's tempered by a study published in lancelet saying it's not working, a slight difference in the number of days of hospitalizations. we have to iron out those differences. you have to compare the two studies. the drug was given later on in the course of the virus in china. earlier in u.s. most anti-viral drugs work better early on in the course of the virus. but so far, the data coming out of the u.s. looks promising. this is an intraven ooshous dru. >> fingers crossed on that. ashley parker, it's the kind of news that a white house that didn't stand it 23% to 32% correct with the broader american public could really tout and create this moment of hope for the country but the president's conduct in the p

hotez, dr. gupta, we appreciate that. >>> be sure to join sanjay and anderson cooper for a live cnn global town hall, "coronavirus: facts and fears" tonight at 8:00. >>> there are two stricken cruise ships off the florida coast this morning, awaiting clearance from the united states authorities to dock. eight people on board have tested positive for coronavirus. more than that are showing symptoms. four people have died on board. florida's governor says he does have a solution for the ships in limbo. so cnn's rosa flores is live at port everglades near ft. lauderdale with more. what is the solution? >> reporter: well, you know, alisyn, we just heard from the port and from the cruise line and there is no deal yet to allow the ship to dock. and then a heart breaking image, we also have been talking to passengers and family members of passengers and here is the situation on the ship. the captain told passengers on the rotterdam, the sister ship, to pack their bags, to get ready, to have at least tw

hotez? >> dr. hotez: that's a great question. i think there will be multiple vaccines, actually.ours might be one of them. the idea is that there's a whole array of vaccine, now moving into clinical trials, each using different technologies. there might be a dozen or even more vaccines tested. ultimately we might find that certain vaccines have different uses. one vaccine might be better for older individuals, one might be better for health care workers or younger adults. so i would anticipate that it's not just a vaccine. we will be seeing maybe three or four vaccines by the end of th this. >> harris: appreciate the expertise of both doctors on deck today. thank you very much. you had a very busy our learnina lot of new details about social distancing and the reopening of the economy. we will continue to watch those stories right here on fox. we're going to take a quick commercial break, and when we come back we will have "the daily briefing" with dana perino. thank you for watching "outnumbered overtime." you can watch the brand new trolls world tour movie... wait for it. at ho

hotez. what do you make of that sort of confirms obviously what others have been saying. >> well, it means people get it. people will do social distancing and there are some app data from the kansas system showing rates and infections are going down due to social distancing. new york may have reached its peak. down here in texas we are not going to peak for another two weeks so the number of add migtss from tmigt admission of icus are a little worried. what does it mean? we are down here in texas we see new york is lifting things and people are going to want to jump the guns and now in texas when we have not peaked in two weeks and the icu cases and morbidity and mortality is going up. it will be a tricky dance. i can't emphasize enough, let's not rush this. >> sweden and brazil are now telling scientists and medical personnel not to use high doses of chloroquine. detroit is said to lead in the u.s. of hydroxychloroquine in preventing and not treating covid-19 but trying to prevent it. it is

peter hotez will join us. he told "the new york times" there is too much magical thinking, that was his phrase "magical thinking" about a vaccine for coronavirus. john hollowman will give us a look at the presidential campaign with a poll showing joe biden ahead of donald trump and showing that more people think joe biden will do a better job of handling the coronavirus pandemic than donald trump. we begin with the numbers. the numbers of reported coronavirus cases in the united states is now 775,647 and as of tonight, there are officially 42,043 reported deaths linked to coronavirus in the united states. joe joyce, a trump voter and his daughter kristen disagreed about the coronavirus pandemic. kristen told "the new york times" he watched fox. he watched foxed and believe it was under control. kristen remembers her father saying don't you think this is fishy? do you know anyone who has it? do you know anyone who has died from it? she said i don't but give me a week and i bet i will. a week later kristen's dad

hotez? >> i'd be curious to hear what joseph has to say.robably the way we're going to go and open up the country in regions. but it will take some time to coordinate it all together, and again, i don't think the states have the clout, the scientific horsepower to know how to organize that. sure, they can tap into some of the academics and professors there, but they're going to need the cdc guidance to carefully orchestrate it, and tom freeden had a very nice op-ed piece in "the new york times" over the weekend, that points out the cdc is multidimensional. they are set up to manage all of this, but they have to now take that on and build an inf infrastructure and by region. >> joseph, what do you think? >> yeah, i completely agree. ideally, we would have that on a national basis, where all 50 governors are agreed and doing the same thing at the same time, but that being said, in the absence of that, as long as we have, you know, dense urban hubs and states that have very close economic ties with one another andly clustered together, as long

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hotez in a minute at baylor college of medicine in houston. sanjay, this news that the first known death three weeks earlier than previously thought from community spread, it is believed, which means i presume, that this virus was here maybe mid-january. what are the implications of this. >> i think this is pretty stunning, john. not surprising at the same time. not surprising and stunning at the same time. i think for some time, we thought the first patient diagnosed in the united states, did we happen to catch the very first patient? we were looking for specific people who traveled back from china at that point or had known exposure to coronavirus. the idea that this was a virus, that it was already spreading in the community, i think, was suspected for a while. we just didn't know for sure. so if you put up that timeline again and say february 6th and february 17th, i believe, when these patients now when they went back and looked, they were suspicious. maybe they were thought to have had the flu before. many other patients out there as wel

why the cheney waited routines nanoparticles and center and that's a good thing said doctor peter hotez a vaccine expert at baylor college of medicine in houston. >>by having that diverse array of different technologies and increases the likelihood that you'll get one or 2 or 3 that reach the finish line that's right most of these vaccines likely won't work and those that do will take a while to be tested. doctor fauci is char cessa doing this in the year to 18 months that would be a world record and we're trying our best hotez who was also working on a vaccine thinks it will take significantly longer than that to complete human trials. researchers spend many months giving vaccines to their human study subjects to make sure they're safe and effective. >>with dozens of companies developing vaccines it's possible. some might be overly optimistic, you may think you're talking to the general public what they're really doing is talking to their shareholders and investors. >>so. >>try us stay calm, you want to be able to kind of. distance yourself from a lot of the high. >>settle in for a lon

hotez, we are going to cross the million mark this week.s is going to be one of those weeks of real significance in the statistical pattern of what's happened in this pandemic. but in your view, where are we as some parts of the country seem to be reporting numbers moving in the right direction, other parts of the country seem more eager than others to reopen? what are you looking for this week? >> right. well, thanks for having me. you know, it's unfortunately the states that are proposing to reopen are not necessarily the states that should be reopening right now. there are many states where the projections indicate that we won't really be in a position to manage the possibility of a resurgence infections unless we keep that social distancing to the early part of june. that means the entire month of may. frankly, there are very few states that have the appetite to keen the social distancing in place for that full month of may. so we're probably going to open up sooner than the models would recommend when we can do it safely. so the big qu

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peter hotez standing by, listening to this briefing.o have gene robinson of "the washington post" with me. dr. hotez, one of the medical claims that was made, this is held out as daily briefing to deal with the coronavirus. other issues can come up. the president was just speaking about a call he was on with foreign heads of state. but on the virus, the president just claimed the united states has the, quote, best testing in the world. your response? >> well, yes and no. you know, if by best he means the largest number of people tested, we're probably getting there. remember, we have the largest number of reported cases of covid-19 in the world right now. we're getting up to half a million people with covid-19. so that means we are doing a lot of testing. it's certainly better than it was under the leadership of brett giroir who is assistant secretary of health and someone who i worked with for years and know him well. things are certainly better. we also have a greater variety of tests coming from the various commercial firms, and now

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peter hotez at baylor college of medicine. thank you for joining us again. you are saying modifications should be made to the president's reopening plan. what are you suggesting? >> well, what i am suggesting is that the problem goes way beyond even the testing. we don't have individual approaches for how they're going to manage the situation. i have been calling for a pilot program to be implemented in one or two states to see how we'll roll it out. that's still a minority of the country. about 10% of the country may be infected and 30 million people. the vast majority of americans even in area where transmission will not have ant antibodies. then you have people coming into the workplace they'll be concerned and infected. and then you start doing the testing. great, let's see you have a rapid test available. who's going to organize that? is that company companies or the origin of the place of business and how do you roll out the results and what do you do with that information? by that i mean of the individuals infected, you have to identify everybody that

peter hotez is a professor and dean of medical, nice to see you again. welcome back. >> good to see you, welcome back. >> thank you. as we close in on a million cases of coronavirus in the u.s., dr. birx said social distancing will need to continue for months but as kung mentioned, in georgia, we see restaurants and movie theatres opening, some beaches in california are open, other states are outlining plans to reopen or revising stay at home policies. what's your biggest fear? >> one of the big fears, of course, is that we're doing this too soon and covid-19 will come back. if you look at the models coming out of the institutes for health metrics at the university of washington, one thing they do and anybody can do this, go to healthdata.org and click on your state with specific recommendations on when you can go back into containment mode, meaning fewer than one new case per million residents per day, which is about about what they believe you can handle in terms of the public health department with all the contact tracing that's needed and really keep

peter hot hotez. it's always an education to speak to you.ments of illumination in this entire crisis was your testimony before congress like six weeks ago at the beginning of march where you sounded the alarm about what was happening at elder care facilities. listen to this. >> look what this virus did in that nursing home in parkland, washington. it rolled through it like a train. this is like the angel of death for older individuals. we need to go pack and support all of -- back and support all of our nursing homes. i don't know what we're doing wrong. >> angel of death. that was on march 5th. on april 17th, how are we doing in terms of our nursing homes? >> thanks, john. it's funny, as i was making that statement, i know i was being provocative, i knew it would be on the evening news that night. sure enough, it was. i did it and i don't like to be deliberately provocative. but i felt it was necessary because we weren't really protecting our nation's nursing homes. there didn't seem to be a sense of urgency even after what happened in kirk

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>>hotez who was also working on a vaccine thinks it will take significantly longer than that to completean trials, researchers spend many months giving vaccines to their human study subjects to make sure they're safe and effective with dozens of companies developing vaccines it's possible. some might be overly optimistic, you may think you're talking to the general public what they're really doing is talking to their shareholders and investors. >>so. >>try us stay calm, you want to be able kind of. distance yourself from a lot of the high. >>settle in for a long road and remember we're dealing with an unprecedented global health problem. if we don't get control of it. we will never get back to normal. >>our coverage of the pandemic continues on our website to go to kron 4 dot com for all the latest headlines will be back with more in just a couple of >>and we're back at 6.41 vice president mike pence is defending his decision not to wear a mask as he was meeting with recovering coronavirus patients. this happened at the mayo clinic in minnesota. you'll see that everybody else is wearing

peter hotez, dean of the national school of tropical medicine at the baylor college of medicine.hat is your reaction to anthony fauci's comments on testing, particularly the part where he kind of said it's important but not the only thing? >> yeah, well, thanks for having me back. he is right. s is it's not the only part but a critical component. what this really means is now that we're starting to relax social distancing, opening up the economy, prem sloweople are going to start be going back to work, the key is at the workplace having the ability to do significant levels of testing. you want to know if your colleague in the next cubicle or same office or workplace may have asymptomatic infection. thp means testing is going to be number one. number two, though, is going to be making certain that you have a small army of people that can do what is called the contact tracing that, is if someone is to be positive they can go to all the individuals dhekt with on a regular basis and the contacts of the contacts and test those individuals as well and get them into quarantine or isolat

peter hotez is a doctor at the baylor college of medicine. often is this done where potential vaccines, and in this case it sounds like we're going to do this with multiple answers, are manufactured essentially in realtime so that we could, if one is deemed useable, boom, we go to market? >> well, it's almost unprecedented. we have a little bit of that during ebola. if you remember ebola in 2014 in west africa, there was a lot of worry about a pandemic, and there was an effort accelerate a couple of vaccines to start clinical trials in 2015. by then we had implemented a public health infrastructure. we had sent in the 101st airborne division. and eventually it stopped ebola and we didn't really get to test it fully until five years later in 2019. and it actually worked. and that's one of the great public health stories never told, how we vaccinated 200,000 people under very difficult circumstances leading to licensure. this is a bit different. we're trying to do this in the middle of a pandemic with a brand new virus agent and try to hit the

like to continue our discussion as we have for the many weeks, on this pandemic, as andook at peter hotezding universities around the world, we focus on the job pot -- johns hopkins university school of public health. mr. bloomberg is the founder of bloomberg lp and the television and radio effort. he has provided philanthropy to at johns hopkins university, and their public health school. spoke yesterday of emergency room realities and we now speak of the frontline, nursing. jason farley is the head of the phd program in nursing at johns hopkins. it is world-class. he is focused not on the classes but on the survival of nurses. how desperate is it to get funding from washington to protect at the most basic level our nurses, interns, and residents? jason: there is no question there has been a delay in receiving funding, receiving ppe. we are starting to see improvements in that availability, but it is far too long and too late. we have seen health care workers around the world who have succumbed to this virus and been infected. not only does that increase the morbidity and mortality withi

hotez of the medical community as they race to find a vaccine. the central banker to the world act yesterday when will the internet -- acts yesterday. when will the international monetary fund need to act? this is bloomberg "surveillance." francine lacqua in her home, i in my home as well. we are in a grimmer america and the trend we are seeing in this pandemic, what do you observe in london on this wednesday? iancine: more than london, wanted to give you context on the rest of the u.s. it is a different market in the u.k., many more homeowners and people do not live as much as in the u.s. paycheck-to-paycheck. in the markets, we do not know what will happen because all of the rent due in the u.s. in the credit markets, regulators are racing to deal with this. they have more than $1.5 trillion in outstanding debt, something we need to keep an eye on. tom: emerging markets front and center. right now, our first word news. viviana: president donald trump is largely giving up his optimistic tome and warns -- tone and warns the u.s. to brace for one

hotez. >> you will get one or two or three that'll reach the finish line. >> reporter: that's right,f these vaccines won't work and those that do will take awhile to be tested. >> dr. fauci charged us doing this 18 to a year, that would be a record, we are trying to do our best. >> reporter: researchers spent many months giving vaccines to human study subjects to make sure they are safe. it is possible some may be overly optimistic. >> you may think they're talking to the general public but they're talking their shareholders and investors. so try stay calm. we want to be able to kind of distance yourself from l a lot the hype. >> reporter: settling in for a long road. >> we are dealing with global health problem. if we don't get control of it, we'll never get back to normal. >> so 7 teams are working on clinical trial in human beings right now. it is unclear of who'll be first. does not seem anyone is doing any better. brooke. >> elizabeth cohen. thank you. >>> bill gates joins anderson cooper and sanjay gupta for a new cnn town hall, "coronavirus facts and fears" on thursday, 8:00 p

peter hotez, we're lucky to turn to you with all of these questions.nd when does this if new normal look different? we're grateful for you for spending some time with us. >> thank you for having me. >>> after the break -- donald trump's well-cataloged obsession on everything. might be delaying help for those who need it. most. try zyrtec. zyrtec starts working hard at hour one and works twice as hard when you take it again the next day. zyrtec. muddle no more. and try zyrtec-d for proven relief of your allergies, sinus pressure, and congestion. name on building, hotels, a fake university, you name it, now this. the washington post was first report that the 1200 coronavirus relief checks being sent in the mail will also has his name displayed on to. quote, the treasury department has ordered president trump's name be printed on stimulus checks. the internal revenue service is rushing to send to tens of millions of americans, a process that could slow their delivery by a few days, senior irs officials said, while some people receiving the checks may not

hotez of the medical community as they race to find a vaccine.r to the world act yesterday when will the internet -- acts yesterday. when will the international monetary fund need to act? this is bloomberg "surveillance." francine lacqua in her

hotez. >> we'll talk to the health of beaumont health, next. >> most of the nation is under a stay-at-home order, some states are holding out. we'll try to figure out why those states are and what they are looking at. this is settingnding a confusin message. tl count the country packing tourist sites as health experts worried of a risk that remains high. >>> the governor of louisiana tells cnn his state is expected to run out of ventilators this week. the state did see its first daily drop of new cases on sunday. some of the hardest hit spots in the country. here is a quick run down for our number. >> i am ed lavandera in new orleans. >> reporter: the state after louisiana, state and health officials here say this will be the week that could put the strain on hospitals and nursing and doctors all across the state. there are a couple of mix news. 447 deaths, that was the largest jump that we have seen in the last week or so. fewer people on ventilatorventi. state officials trying to make sense of these new numbers and trying to figure out where we stand here in louisiana. >> i am ryan young

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hotez far more lethal than the flu. last friday, the president compared it to the flu. let's watch this and talk to about it on the other side. >> we're at war with a deadly virus, success in this fight will require the full, absolute measure of our collective strength, love and devotion. it's going disappear. it will bs disappear. very sobering, 00,000 people. when you have 15 and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, i have many friends, business people, people with commonsense they said lride it out. don't do anything, ride it out and think of it as the flu. it's not the flu. it's vicious. sometimes they just get the sniffles, sometimes they feel really bad, that's a little bit like the flu. like the regular flu. >> ashley parker, i'm old enough to remember donald trump standing in a red hat that said keeping america great, saying i'm really good at this stuff and saying things like on that tape. what brought about the change of heart and do they own up to any of the president's past utter rances? >> they do not generally to the preside

hotez big time vaccine expert dr. lipton a well known epidemiologist.m have told me they don't think we will have widespread vaccine available for another year but we might have something by the end of this year. and i'm encouraged by what i'm reading. ainsley: that's good news that would be wonderful. at least if we had it for emergency use this fall. okay. there is a study that says that covid-19 has been found in airborne droplets in chinese hospitals. is this just more evidence that it does spread through the air? >> actually, this is a very important paper. what they did was go around multiple locations in the hospital but also outside. and they went into, for example, the worst places were not the places you would think. they didn't find a lot of virus in the air in the hospital rooms. they are ventilated and taken care of. in the unventilated toilet a lot of virus particle. they found it at the department store entrance near the hospital because that's a congested area and people were sneezing and coughing, et cetera. interestingly, when they cha