hotez.rt in your state there in texas, because there's numbers coming out that really leave you scratching your head, and frankly have us all wondering this morning about the data itself. we're seeing a pretty significant drop in the number of tests in texas, but the positivity rate, we see the new tests there. the positivity rate is skyrocketing. 24.5% yesterday. it was 24%, almost, on tuesday. nearly 21% on monday. and hospitalizations, we need to look at, too. we've always talked about the focus on positivity and hospitalizations as opposed to just the number of tests. but it doesn't seem to be adding up the way it used to. >> yeah, that's right. there is a little bit of confusion. the positivity rate is alarmingly high and the number of tests have dropped off. one possibility is that it's because we're focusing testing more on symptomatic individuals, which may -- which may help promote that. so we don't really quite understand what's going on at this point. i've been getting calls from

hotez, your topic leads this hour. your opinion on what biden and harris are calling for, a national mask mandate as opposed to the policy of lack thereof we've seen thus far? >> this is what we've been missing from the white house this whole year, is having a national strategy, national unification about what we need to do. this, as you point out, has led to the worst covid epidemic anywhere on the planet. the united states still remains today the epicenter of the epidemic with just in the seven days we lead the world in new coronavirus cases and new coronavirus deaths with this terrible number yesterday with 1,400 deaths or more. we need to take action. we've been calling for a national strategy. what the biden and harris team has called for is a good first step. let's have masks on everyone which can prevent the number of cases of increasing. the unknown part about the masks is whether that's enough to really bring it down to where we can safely open up schools, especially in the southern states where the epidemic i

peter hotez to discuss. you just heard him saying there that this was a big surprise.eason it was a big surprise was because this was a routine test he took, called an insurance test, before he was to be in contact with the president today, and it came back positive. what does this tell you about the importance of widespread testing? >> first of all, let me say the governor looks pretty good on the video there. so i wish him all the best and his family, and i hope he does well with it and looking like he probably will. so that's great news. up to a third of patients can just present with headaches. they can present with cough, headache, or be asymptomatic. up to half the people can be without symptoms at all. there's not really any for public figure out and about interacting. >> all right. dr. peter hotez, thank you very much for giving us that perspective on the situation unfolding with the governor in ohio testing positive today before he was to meet with president trump. thanks so much. >>> turning now to our world lead in europe, countries are experiencing a second

hotez, a map, and it shows the trend in positivity rates. that's showing the percentage of tests that are coming back positive for the coronavirus. compare that to the overall number of cases. so, what do these trends show you? you see 32 states have a positivity rate that is so disturbing. >> yeah. when i look at these trends, i tend not to rely on any single metric. i look at the total number of cases. i look at the positivity rate. i look at the hospitalizations and deaths and all signs point to a steep acceleration. although across the south, we've kind of plateaued. we've plateaued at about a hundred miles an hour. and, for instance, here in houston, we've got between 12 and 1,500 new confirmed cases a day. what that means probably 5 to 6,000 real new cases. what it means, wolf, is you can't do all of the things you usually do for public health. you can't easily do contract tracing. you can't open classrooms, all of these things we can't have a normal semblance of life. i can't see the current trends that you're looking at. but i've see

hotez, great to see you. i don't know if president trump has great track record on predicting when the virus is going to go away. he thought it was going to magically go away in april. i don't think we need to put much stock in him thinking that it's going to go away. but the fact that dr. fauci says, it will be with us virtually forever, how does that change how we approach it now? >> tony's absolutely right. dr. fauci absolutely right. remember, alisyn, this is our third major coronavirus epidemic, pandemic of the 21st century. we had sars 1 in 2003, then mers in 2012, now covid-19. we're going to also in addition to covid-19 being around for a long time, we're also going to have other coronavirus infections. so one of the things in our lab we're doing is we're working to develop a universal coronavirus vaccine, so we don't have to keep chasing down brand-new coronaviruses as they emerge. so we have a covid-19 vaccine that we're accelerating for india and elsewhere, but also, now, we're looking at this univ

hotez, let me move on to the fda commissioner.ys it's possible they could sign off on an emergency use authorization or even approval for a coronavirus vaccine before the end of phase three trials. does that raise red flags for you? >> it does, jim. you know, emergency use authorization is something we really haven't used in this country for vaccines for the simple reason that vaccines are products that are administered to healthy people to prevent them from getting ill. this is -- we use emergency use authorizations for things like ventilators, we use them for ppe and we've used them unfortunately for hydroxychloroquine which was already revoked so it already has a taint to it that the american people are worried about. so right now emergency use authorizations have to be considered as a substandard or incomplete review. this is not something we can do for a vaccine, especially for some of the new operation warp speed technologies, which are new technologies that we've never used before for vaccinating the american population or

peter hotez, thank you for all you do. thank you for getting up early for all of us and the information and knowledge you're sharing with us on air day in and day out, we really appreciate it. >> thank you for giving attention to this, ana, i appreciate it. >> thank you. be well. >>> two tropical storm storms named laura and marco could make rare back-to-back landfalls in the u.s. and that has the governor of mississippi worried the coronavirus pandemic could complicate preparations. governor tate reeves says shelters space has been reduced by up to half because of covid-19. he's urging people to plan ahead and act early. hurricane watches have been issued along the gulf as marco intense ties and could become a hurricane within hours. meantime laura is passing by puerto rico at that and is heading toward cuba. laura could pass just south of the florida keys come monday. we'll be tracking this and bring you new information. >>> up next, a former army green beret now accused of spying on his country for russia. and his conne

hotez, the u.s.among the sixth worst performing countries in the world in terms of a response to this pandemic. is it a failure to follow public health guidelines as we see with this and other large events that landed us at the bottom of this list? >> well, we're really in my opinion landed at the bottom of it all was never creating a road map, a plan for containing the virus, that was never in the cards. it was always about let the states figure it out with weak guidance and backup fema support providing ppe manufacturing support, but it was doomed to fail from the beginning, and we heard from chris murray, we opened up prematurely. we never really extended the lockdown to where it needed to go, and even now, it's still not too late to reimplement a lot of those things. we do not have to lock down every state but some states we might. we can bring it back down to containment mode, one case per million residents per day and open up schools safely, then even open up colleges, maybe have sporting event

peter hotez. for the center of vaccine development at texas children's hospital. he is also the dean of the school of tropical medicine at baylor college of medicine. dr. hotez, thank you for joining us. hong kong may have the first confirmed case of someone contracting covid-19 twice. what might that mean for the rest of us? >> well, we're hoping, jake, that it's not a common occurrence. we know from nonhuman primate studies that when you infect them with the sars2 coronavirus that causes covid-19, they developed high levels of neutralizing antibody that prevents you from getting reinfected. i still think that's probably the case for most individuals. it could be in this particular person. the level of antibody responses was modest or low. and therefore it was high enough to prevent it from getting sick but not high enough to prevent it from actually getting the infection. so we're still studying this virus. it has a lot of important implications for a vaccine development because we want to have

hotez, the president said today that kids don't get very sick.d that kids are virtually immune. and he is now saying they're not transmitting it. they don't really -- they have a hard time transmitting it to -- to adults. how concerning -- i mean, we talk talked about this with sanjay. but just factually, it's just not the case. >> yeah. >> sorry, that was for dr. hotez. >> oh, sorry. >> it's all right. >> well, what i'll just say is, first off, congratulate dr. o'leary, american academy of pediatrics, putting out some very important documents about covid-19 in children. they're really important and i'd like to just congratulate dr. o'leary and his team on getting this out. yeah, i think they are responsible for quite a bit of of transmission in the community. we know this. we heard it from sanjay. the south korea study, kids over the age of 10. but now, we know even the little kids, they have lots of virus in their upper airway and their mouth and their nose. and even if they're not releasing as much virus particles, they're still accounting for

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peter hotez. doctor, dr. birx says she's seeing some reassuring signs.u see any reassuring signs right now? >> i don't see a lot, ana, to be reassured about. the deaths are now climbing. we're heading up to 1,500 new deaths per day. that's very concerning. that trajectory means we're going to easily maybe 300,000 deaths or more by the end of the year. it's plateaued as 100,000 -- so, for example in houston, even though it's plateaued, what that really means if you multiply it by three or five, that's an 5,000 new cases, because that's the unusual conversion factor. now the virus is moving up there are areas getting hid very hard. i don't see anything rea thursday. this is the problem. i don't think she doesn't -- not just her. it's the whole white house task force, doesn't know how to synthesize and communicate the information very well. sort of cherry picks they vary yes, sir facts, but doesn't bring it together to make us understand what's going on. it's pretty awful. problem number two, they stiller digging in their heels that the states have to lead

peter hotez. i have to get to another development because as we're talking about testing, we've been seeing testing declining week over week since the end of july. in fact you can see where you are in texas, their testing significantly decreased at the end of the month aside from that record day of testing on august 13th. here's what admiral brett giroir said about testing. >> has the administration actually exhausted it, to get more supplies like reagents and tips and other testing supplies to the labs? is that true, everything has been done? >> i'm going to say definitively yes. >> there's nothing else the administration can do to get more testing? >> you'll hear a dpa action coming next week. >> would you say enough has been done to make sure that everyone who needs a test gets a test in this country? >> everything that can possibly be done has been done. >> doctor, do you agree? do you think the government has done all they can? >> well, i think brett giroir has done all that he can. i know he

peter hotez, should we reopen schools?ity transmission under way it wouldn't be safe for teachers or for bus drivers or for staff and for the parents. >> okay. that was good. like the information was there but maybe try something like this. >> are you [bleep] serious! do you really think that knees little [bleep] monsters are going to be able to not eat each other's boogers, five minutes into that classroom, they're sticking their fingers in their ears and now everybody at the chuck e cheese has covid! that is in the community, that is in the entire country, then the whole world has covid and the aliens are like okay, now here our our chance. >> have you considered trying is like that sth. >> that is a very provocative response in our approach. i'm not sure it really works. >> you know i love your style, i copied your glasses. you are a style icon to me. it is just that we have to give you a look that communicates code red. loosen the bow tie a little bit. ruffle the clar, ruffle the hair and then also a little sprinkle of

peter hotez at baylor college of medicine and working on a potential covid-19 vaccine.for being with us. do we know why there is this 90% increase in the number of covid cases among kids in the last four wok weeks? >> good question. one, remember in the pandemic we were only testing people with severe illness or being hospitalized, people in long-term care facilities so now as testing capacity is increased somewhat, of course, it varies by region, more children are able to get tested. so i think that's one thing. i also think there probably is some element of more children are getting infected than they were before with increased activity et cetera getting, you know, out and about more often and, you know, the other thing i would point out is what we're seeing in children is what is just reflecting what we're seeing in the rest of the country. when you see a lot more infections and that's what we're seeing. >> the president said kids are immune and not transmitting it, they have a hard time transmitting it to adults. how concerning -- we talked about this with sanjay bu

hotez, there are parents at home saying my child needs to see other children. there is a mental health issue here as well. emotional health issue. how do we balance these two things? is it possible? >> yeah, i meaner the probl, th, dr. redfield is right. it's only half the story. i'm the parent of kids. and you understand why it's opportunity. it's not just the education. kids depend on schools for food. and we understand why schools are important. the american academy of pediatrics enforces it. the problem is you can't do it in areas where there's lots of transmission. the problem is, the federal government, the white house, is not willing to roll up their sleeves to do the hard work to contain this virus across the south and across the affected areas across the midwest where there's lots of transition going on. and then we can open up schools. in fact, i put out a couple weeks ago, an october 1 plan that puts forward a very simple way to do this by october 1. we can safely open up schools, colleges, maybe even have sporting events. >> how is that? what is you

hotez, thank you as always for joining us.to cut short right now. >>> we want to go back live to wisconsin where we're hearing from jacob blake's father. let's listen. >> give me a second. he grabbed my hand. he squeezed my hand. and he said, daddy, daddy, i love you. you know i love you. i said, man, listen. i love you more than anything in the world. he said, well, i didn't think you were going to come. well, what? man, i got in the car, y'all, and drove all night. then, my baby said, daddy, why did they shoot me so many times? i said, baby, they weren't supposed to shoot you at all. i know. i know there's a lot of parents out here in this crowd. you cannot imagine what it feels like to look at your baby, paralyzed from the waist down, shackled, shackled. where was my son going? >> where was he going? >> they already put him in the bed. what was the shackle for? you understand that chattel slavery was the most diabolical thing committed on brown skinned people in the history of creation. we suffered and still suffer because

peter hotez is a professor and also developing a vaccine for covid. doctor, you tweeted that you think this emergency use authorization for plasma treatment may have in your words an ulterior motive in order to push an authorization for covid vaccine. so can you explain what that mean by that? cnn learned in july trump administration officials, meadows, mnuchin, they raised the possibility of an emergency use thauthorization for a vacci. i wonder your reaction. >> yeah. that work, that gives me a lot of pause for concern and i'm worried. the reason i raised that concern of emergency use authorization is not the eua of plasma treatment per se but this is the first time for a biologic which uses a different branch of the fda called c-bird, the same branch that would authorize a vaccine. since i'm worrying that they're doing a dry run, that they're actually considering emergency use authorization for vaccines and i don't want to see that. i want to see that the vaccines for operation warp speed go through the full process of a phase three trial, to show

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i'd like to bring in peter hotez. we had to interrupt our conversation regarding coronavirus when the president began speaking. also jake levine former aide to president obama. is there concern this could converge and become a super spreader event when we talk about the pandemic? >> absolutely. there is a lot of worry because even before this hurricane, texas still had one of the highest rates of transmission of covid-19 in the country even though it was 10,000 new cases a day, it was down to 5,000 new cases a day, it is still 5,000 new cases a day and those are confirmed cases and what it really means is five or six times higher than that. louisiana was around 700 new cases confirmed per day. so pretty screaming high level of transmission, one of the highest areas in the country. you have all that disruption. people moving, you know, emergency management, i know they did the best they can in terms of trying to maintain social distancing, trying to use, get more buses out to evacuate people. they did everything they c

peter hotez. >> thank you, judy.tephanie' im stephanie sy at "newshour w more details on the shooting near the white house that ocrred today. president trump was intrupted and escorting -- escorted outside the white house briefing news room and he returned minute salute -- later saying there was a shooting outside the white house fence. the secret service twitter account set an officer and male subject were transported to a hoital and at no time was the white house complex breached. chicago police beefing up their presence downtown after widespread lootingunvernight. thst broke out after police shot a 20-year-old man who fired at them on the city's south side.hu reds of people descended on the magnificent mile shopping district. they smashed windows and stole merchandise. moren t one hundred were arrested. otmayor lori lightalled it an assault on the city. mayor lightfoot: whur occurred inowntown and surrounding communities was abject criminal behavior pure and simple. , and there cannot be any excuse pfor it, period

hotez, he is working on a potential covid-19 vaccine. heard the president characterizing the numbers, does it make sense to you? >> well, it doesn't, really. you know, he is having a lot of trouble getting his arms around the scope of the problem. first of all, let's look at what is really going on. we will be at 160,000 deaths probably by the end of this week. anderson, that is 160,000 times the story we just heard, your interview. people losing their spouses, the parents, the brothers the sisters, and it's, it's just absolutely devastating and the deaths are, there's no end in sight to the deaths. we will soon be going up to 200,000 deaths by september, october. different health metrics says 230,000 deaths by the end of october. we could easily be at 300,000 deaths by the end of the year with no interest or curiosity of how to end the virus when we know we can do it. all of the deaths are preventable and we cannot get movement out of the white house. and i just can't understand why we don't move forward on this. instead, we see the sor

i spoke to professor peter hotez.dicine in houston. he's also working on a coronavirus vaccine and i asked him what he made of russia saying it would start mass vaccinations in october. pretty extraordinary for a number of reasons. first of all, the technical achievement of making a coronavirus vaccine for covid—19 is actually not that high a bar. there are many ways to do it. it is kind of an artjudgement old school problem in virology to get something that induces higher levels of virus reducing antibody. everyone assumes the carton of the virus with the spikes eliminating out and that is what is involved in attaching to host tissues if you have high levels of antibody, you could potentially get a good vaccine as well as used in late other bits of the immune system. there are many ways to do it. we are doing it through an engineer protein. everyone knows about the oxford vaccine. there are several ways to do it. the problem is this. it is not so much making the vaccine. it is ensuring there is adequate quality contr

peter hotez from baylor. i should mention we have fact checked this so many times. the top line is hydroxychloroquine, no, it is not shown to be helpful in treating coronavirus. but it's beyond the pointed of absurd that we're still fact checking it. it's actually dangerous. tell us your thoughts on hearing the president yet again talk about this drug as a an off label use for coronavirus patients. >> i mean, cliearly the clinica trials overwhelmingly show nat hydroxy chlor kwn does not work with zinc or -- this is, this is done. the problem is this. the president and the white house seem to be looking for excuses not to contain this virus. things are -- have spiralled, have been spierraling out of control now for a few weeks. we're advancing towards 230,000 dects by the end of october. 300,000 by the end of the year and there's nothing holding that train back, even though we can do this. we with bring all the states to containment mode less than one new case per million residents a day or something along those lines. an agreed upon metric by october if there was a

peter hotez. it's been several months now since the first coronavirus case was found in the u.s.re we still having issues with test sng >> we're having issues with testing for the same reason that we've not contained the virus where so many other countries have. we've just not had a cord naordd federal response and we have the epidemic raging across southern states and into the u.s. so, number one problem is we have massive levels of virus transmission and even where it's reached a plateau, it's plateauing at 1,000 miles per hour. so, it's very intense. that's problem one. then, when you're trying to do testing under those circumstances, contact traces, it's almost impossible when you have that many cases. and on top of that, we have the well-reported delays in organizing federal testing. so, in an effort to move things along, we license things to a number of commercial labs and a lot of inconsistencies across the different commercial labs and as bill gates appropriately points out, it's ridiculous, if you're getting a pcr result, which tells you if you're actively infected at th

wednesday saw another night of hotez konoha but this time demonstrations stayed peaceful a day after the fatal shootings of 2 people please respect for this piece he does as a space secret nice piece of community on wednesday police in the neighboring state of illinois arrested a 17 year old in connection with the shooting he was part of a self-styled commotion a private militia video showed him firing his gun hitting multiple people. you know . at the republican national convention vice president mike pence said the violence must end. too many heroes have died defending our freedom to see americans strike each other down we will have law and order on the streets of this country for every american of every race and creed and color. line got plenty of applause at the convention but did little to appease many and conneaut the milwaukee bucks basketball team refused to play a scheduled game and other teams followed suit we're calling for justice for. the man all to be held accountable. federal authorities are now investigating the circumstances of blake's shooting. for more let's bring

peter hotez from baylor college of medicine is a vaccine specialist. oleander plants are highly toxic. that's the raw plant. doctor, we saw him push hydroxychloroquine. he says he even took that drug. explain to us what oleanderan is and could it be considered as a possible treatment for coronavirus? is there any actual evidence? >> yeah, anderson, oleanderen -- you might have heard about digitalis from the digitalis plant, that's also a cardiac glycocide. at m.d. anderson -- some of my colleagues have been looking at that substance in the test tube looking at a cell showing antiviral activity. so it should be added to the list, growing list of compounds that should be tested in laboratory animals. that's it. that's where we're at this point. the likelihood it would emerge as a proven therapy is remote because it has to go through animal testing and even after that it could fail in clinical trials so we're at least seven degrees of separation from taking this seriously as a potential antiviral agent for covid-19. >> something having a reaction in a tes

listen to people like peter hotez. listen to tony fauci.ose are the people that are telling you the truth. mr. rogers used to say, you know, tell the kids to look for the helpers. i'm telling the american public to look toward the scientists. the scientists will tell you the truth. and the truth is, here, yeah, kids will get sick and kids will transmit the virus to adults. >> that's the truth. ain't it the truth? thank you very much, dr. reiner. have a good weekend. >> my pleasure. you, too. >> budget cuts leading to a backlog at the postal service and has some worries about mail-in voting come election day. the details you need to know. >>> plus, i am going to talk to the governor of colorado, where all voters -- all voters -- have received ballots in the mail, since 2013. to push his unfounded claims about mail-in voting. >> this is going to be the greatest election disaster, in history. and by the way, you guys like to talk about russia and china and other places. they'll be able to forge ballots. they'll forge them. they'll do whatever

hotez, certainly no surprise there would be cases connected to the sturgess motorcycle rally, i talkedjay earlier who pointed out it's been five days, so the chance that there will be even more is greater as the next week progresses. how much of events like this can be super spreader events. >> they certainly can be, right? i mean i would now expect to start seeing an uptick in cases in in the great plains states. the great plains states have been doing well up until now. i'm going to see if these become new hotspots, new areas of transmission similar to the southeastern united states. it's a -- remember there are 250,000 people who came in from all over the country including areas where transmission was so high in the southeastern united states. and then now they're going back to their various homes, so this is a big one. and this is the reason why we're continuing to see deaths daily, where 1,000 deaths per day will be at $200,000. the grim milestone by the middle of september. and then we'll be up to 310,000 by december 1st. it's beyond tragic. >> it's remarkable to me that -- with

hotez said i think by inauguration day.d to late january we might have a glimmer of whether or not this vaccine and moderna and pfizer, whether or not they might have a chance of working, what that data looks like, both in terms of is it safe and does it work. >> so interesting. elizabeth, thank you so much. i really appreciate it. i think we've fixed our connection as well with mark zandi of moody's to bring him back in to talk about the executive orders that president trump signed over the weekend. couldn't hear any of the top answer so say exactly the same thing you said, mark, i'm sure it was gold. overall, how much do these orders, if they are fully implemented that the president has announced, how much do they do to help? >> well, you know, if they're fully implemented, that's keys assumption, that's going to be tough to get done given the legal obstacles and the practical obstacles of getting anything like this accomplished in the near future, but abstracting from all of that and assuming the president gets exactly w

peter hotez, the dean of tropical medicine at baylor medicine. trials. can you explain the possible dangers? >> yeah, what i like to point out is the technical hurdle of developing the covid-19 vaccine is not that high. it's an old school problem in virology. this is how all the covid-19 vaccines work. and there are different approaches, ours uses a recumbant protein technology. others use an activated virus vaccines. the technical hurdle to develop a covid-19 is not so high. a covid-19 vaccine. the hard part is doing it under a quality umbrella with quality control, quality assurance, showing you can make it the same way every time, and giving adequate time to show in clinical trials that it works and protects against covid-19 and that it's safe. it doesn't cause a safety flair or signal. and that's the part that the russians are -- seem to be skipping. probably the most important part. so they're advertising this as the -- i think they call it s t sputnik 5. this is a great achievement for russian science. it's not. it's not the hard part. that

peter hotez earlier this morning and he said they are working on a universal coronavirus vaccine, whichinteresting to hear. not just chasing a covid-19, and then, you know, sars, mers. so that would eradicate it, wouldn't it? >> yeah, you know, i've got to tell you, the science behind this stuff is fascinating and the problem with this particular virus is it's so contagious. that's what makes it hard to eradicate. you know, sars and mers going back to 2003, essentially did wirth away wither away in this world because it wasn't nearly as contagious, although sars was very, very deadly. ultimately in the world, 8,000 people roughly were infected and 800 people died. not that many infects, but a 10% fatality rate. that's really high. the universal vaccines, they've been talking about it for flu for some time and now with coronavirus, is this idea that these viruses do share enough in common that you could create a vaccine that would make neutralizing antibodies to the most stable component of these viruses. and we're going to need this. as much as we're in the middle of this right now, the

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peter hotez. good the see you. democrats were quick the slam the changes to the testing guidelines. andro cuomo called it political propaganda. senator elizabeth warren, a group of her colleagues is calling for an investigation into when weather the president's administration is politicizing the nation's testing policies. >> this is strange. it is not just a political issue. the scientific community has been pretty outraged. would would know that 40 to 50% of the covid cases are without symptoms. if you are not testing asymptomatic individuals it makes it impossible to do contact tracing to do what we need to do to fight this pandemic especially in the united states. look, we don't have a lot of tools to fight this right now without a vaccine. so what do we have? we have testing, contact tracing, and social distancing. if you take away those first two elements, then you are basically saying we are not fighting this epidemic. >> we are heading also into flu season, cooler temperatures, the flu and coronavirus show similar symptoms. we are all going to be back inside when the temperat

peter hotez from the baylor college of medicine.thank you so much. >> doctor: thank you so much, judy. >> woodruff: in the day's other news, chicago poce are beefing up their presence downtown after widespread looting there overnit. the unrest broke out after police shot a 20-year-old man who fired at them onity's south side. findreds of people descended on the "magnint mile" shopping district. isey smashed windows and sle merchae. more than 100 people were arrested. mayor lori lightfoot called it an assault on the city. to what occurred in our do and surrounding communities was abject criminal behavior pure and simple. and there cannot be any excuse for it, period. rsthis is not legitimate amendment protected speech. these were not pr people engaged in petty theft to feed themselves and their families. this was straight up felony criminal conduct. >> woodruff: the melee lasted for several hours and injured 13 police officers. 16 people have been arrested in portland, oregon, after protesters rioted at a police union last night. dem

peter hotez professor and dean of tropical medicine at baylor college of medicine. when the president says, and we've spoken many times, about coronavirus, this thing is going away. it is going away. absolutely no question in my mind. yes, eventually it will go away. there are therapeutics. when you hear the president say that what goes through your mind? >> there is a tone deafness and lack of sensitivity. eventually when you look at the course of years it is going to go away but it is going to be around for a while several years if you look at the models out of harvard school of public health and elsewhere and in the near term it is only getting worse. we have plateaued at a very high level across the southern states. we are seeing still around a thousand, 1500 deaths per day. now it is moving up into the midwest and tennessee and ohio, indiana. this thing is terrible. we'll be at 160 deaths by the end of the week and 180,000 the weeks after that and 230,000 deaths by the end of october. this is pretty awful. and now they want to open schools. here is the problem.

peter hotez is back, white house reporter for the washington post and former chief of staff for the cia is here. i want to start with you, jeremy. the intelligence community has reached an assessment that they have briefs to congress and made public. it says this, russia is actively working to denigrate joe biden. my question for you, ron johnson, senator from wisconsin is actively working to denigrate joe biden. are they in cahoots? >> i don't know if they're in cahoots. a senator, an american citizen has the right to participate in the 34ri8 process. the former kgb, vladimir putin does not have the right, it is unlawful and a violation of the security of the kremlin and the united states by getting involved and denigrating joe biden. they did it in 2016 and despite all the protests, all the bipartisan commissions. all the warnings from the intelligence professional across capitol hill, across washington. here they go again, and what does donald trump say about this? apparently nothing. if bill, who is the office of the director of national intelligence as the head of counter intellige

hotez's concern, too, that all of the disinformation around all hoff these really emotional debates endsendangering the very people that they're supposed to protect. let me ask you about one more headline. dr. gupta mentioned it. the cdc put out a study late friday that included a case study at a georgia camp, where i think 270 kids were infectied. i think in one study, it shows that children carry a larger virus load or as large as a virus load as adults and we know that adults can catch it and lose their lives. where do you see the school debate right now? >> well, i mean, i think it's very problematic. i know if i were a parent of a school-aged child right now, i would be very, very wary of sending my child into a school where there is not testing, where the capacity of the school to do social distancing is not great. and where it jeopardizes potentially the health, not just of the children and the teachers, but also all of the staff who work at these schools. and going back to their own homes and not being able to do contact tracing, because the school and the range of reach is so gr