peter hotez is waying in the wings he's from baylor. so dr. hotez, you just heard all of the definitive statements from the president and again if true this is wonderful news. could this be? >> well, it was a bit confusing. because it was vaguely worded enough that you could interpret it a lot of different ways. look, here is the situation, we have three vaccines from operation warp speed that are in phase three clinical trials. the two mrna vaccines, one from pfizer and one from moderna and one from astra zeneca, oxford, that is on a pause right now because of a potential concern around the two pauses that they've had in the fda is now re-evaluating that one. so we could take that one off the table for a little bit. so let's look at the two vaccines. we have no idea if they work and no idea if they are safe. all we have is data from the initial phase one trials that didn't show any major problem but now they're going phase three trials and by the end of the year, the many people think and including myself that there may be enough data accumul

peter hotez.an of the national school of tropical medicine at baylor college of medicine in houston. and dr. jeannie marrazzo with the department of infectious diseases at the university of alabama birmingham. our correspondent alexandra field just said something in the last hour that i think bears repeating. she said, imagine if on this past new year's eve, okay, just, you know, nine months ago, if somebody had said, in the next nine months, there's going to be a pandemic. and 200,000 americans are going to lose their lives. you wouldn't have been able to process that or believe it. and yet, here we are. we are right on the edge of 200,000. that number. and still, dr. hotez, you say, no containment strategy. no national containment strategy, even with this number. >> yeah, that's right, alisyn. you know, we had gone up to around 66,000 new cases a day over the summer, end of july, beginning of august. finally, people started getting the message about masks, to some extent, we brought it down to 3

peter hotez is joining us, the dean of tropical medicine at baylor. dr. hotez, one federal official now tells cnn, and i'm quoting now, i don't know any scientist involved in this effort who thinks we will be getting shots into arms anytime before election day, end quote. give us a reality check? what's a more realistic timeline for people actually getting vaccinated? >> that's absolutely right, wolf. first of all, remember, we don't even know if we have vaccines that actually work yet. all we have is information from what are called phase i and phase ii trials, showing that there seems to be some degree of safety and that there's an immune response. i think the reason the official might have said that is for a very simple reason. those phase i and phase ii trials, what they showed, you need at least two doses of the vaccine in order to induce a robust immune response that is likely to protect. and that means you have to extend the trial. that means you're giving two doses, roughly, at least, a month apart. so if you just backtrack and say, okay, the phas

peter hotez, and miles taylor.w we have the president's defense of it all saying the reason he lied for months is because he didn't want to create a panic. really? president trump says he didn't want to create a panic. now, i was going to call him captain panic. alisyn promoted him to president panic. panic is his thing. it's what he does. listen. >> your home will go down in value and crime rates will rapidly rise. the end result is you will totally destroy the beautiful suburbs. suburbia will be no longer. we must never allow mob rule. rioting, looting, arson and violence. there is violence and danger in the streets of many democratic-run cities throughout america. >> so panic in suburbia, with every syllable pronounced meticulously, okay. panic about a pandemic that has now killed 190,000 people, not okay. professor hotez, this is not about panic. john barry who wrote the book about the great influenza says the single most important lesson from the 1918 flu, the single most important lesson, tell the truth. why

hotez?ell, you know, because we never -- this all gets back to the lack of a national strategy and willing to contain the virus where there's a lot of transmission. what do you think's going to happen when you open up schools where there's high levels of transmission? what do you think's going to happen when you bring a bunch of 20-something-year-olds, 18 to 20-something-year-olds to a large college campus where there's lots of transmission? of course it's going to fail. this is both predicted and predictable. i mean, there's just so much you can do with plexiglass and six-foot social distancing. at the end of the day, if you don't control community transmission, it -- we predicted on the show that it would fail catastrophically, and it's failing catastrophically. >> "don't worry, be happy." thank you, dr. hotez. appreciate your time this morning. >> thanks so much. >> dr. bobby mcferrin. >> i'm waiting for you to start whistling. that will happen before the show's over, i'm sure of it. >> d

hotez, great to see you, as always.usly, these numbers fluctuate, but this morning feels different. how worried should we be about the spikes that we're seeing? >> alisyn, i'm really worried. you know, we've been talking for -- all during the summer, that we're anticipating a big fall rise in part because people will be moving indoors in the colder climates. and sure enough now, we are seeing a sharp increase up in the northern midwest area. the dakotas, wisconsin, iowa, minnesota, so that's already happening. so that's a real worrying sign for me. and then the fact that we are seeing now this in missouri and arkansas and oklahoma in the middle of the country, then we just heard about the increase in new york. so all signs are pointing for me to something very ominous, as we start to the fall. and there's one other reason why we have to be concerned. and it's not gotten a lot of attention, but it's been written about in a paper over the summer and july from a group in europe and david ruben's group at the policy lab in

hotez with baylor college of medicine. great to have both you've. so dr.ez, president trump seems to still be pushing for a herd immunity strategy. >> if only he knew how to say it. he doesn't know what he's pushing for. >> i'm not sure what "herd developed" is, which is what he just said is going to happen. he also said it's "herd mentality," which is a completely different thing. dr. hotez, i will spare you on having to opine what if joe biden said those things, the field day that the trump campaign would have with him getting words wrong. but just the notion that he still thinks that herd immunity is the way to go. and george stephanopoulos had to point out, except that hundreds of thousands would be killed with that. >> well, he's actually -- when he said herd mentality, that was actually more accurate. he's trying to create a herd mentality by trying to make statements that covid-19 is not a real problem, that it should just go away. you know, pay no attention to what's behind the curtain, which is this, one of the worst public health nightmares that'

hotez, it was also interesting to hear. you talk about the now.know that president trump knew about this eight months ago and knew how deadly it was. and it's interesting to hear them talk about it to bob woodward in august, where he's reflecting on where they are as a country now with 194,000 deaths. listen to what the president says we could have done more or differently. >> by the time of their final interviews in august, mr. trump had become the leader of the one nation suffering the most from the virus. the president came to this conclusion. >> you and i -- >> nothing more could have been done. nothing more could have been done. >> "nothing more could have been done," which is backwards looking, but dr. hotez, we now see with this rally overnight in nevada, he doesn't want to do more going forward. >> if you listen to the voices of people at this rally, this is not the first time we've heard those things. where have we heard those things? we've heard them from the white house. the people are taking their cues from the leadership of the nation

peter hotez with us. dr. hotez, this is unusual because it goes almost you would think without saying that pharmaceutical companies would be if they are seeking approval for a vaccine that they would be doing so with one that's safe so what's going on here with this pledge to reassure people? >> yeah. look. brianna, the pharmacy ceos are smart. they don't want to put anything out there that's going to be either unsafe or doesn't work. one, it would undermine not only the public confidence in the u.s. covid-19 vaccine program "operation warp speed" and undermine the confidence in the companies and they're publicly traded companies and affect the shareholders so it makes good business sense. they don't want to put anything out there that's unsafe or doesn't work. it would destroy their companies and careers and i think what you are seeing by issuing that statement. >> to be clear, they could submit a vaccine, right? talk about the time line here. sub mitt a vaccine for approval before the election but that's a

peter hotez at texas children's hospital.dean of the national school of tropical medicine, the baylor medicine. dr. hotez, welcome. >> thank you so much for having me tonight. who do you think will be the race of covid-19 vaccine? it can be stored less than sub zero temperatures, does it put them in the lead or more to it? >> well, it is not necessarily. protective immunity and key cell responsive. some are better than others. the nova vaccine looks pretty good as well. we don't know how it will translate into people protecting immunity yet. that's why you do the clinical trial of 30,000 people and we'll have that information at least for two of those vaccines by the end of the year, probably the fvizer vaccine and one of them show evidence of protection and we can begin rolling them out into the human population and united states. but remember there is going to be multiple vaccines. there is more to come after that. there may be replacements down the line. even if you get this vaccine early on, it may turn out a little bit b

hotez says, this is a world record. you know, the president should get some credit for harnessing the scientific community to work so quickly. but what he's done is he's promised it by a certain date. and you can't do that with science and medicine. and he has set himself up. i think for failure, both because it's very likely that he won't meet that promise. and secondly, he's undermined the public's confidence in vaccines writ large. so, listen, i just think from the beginning, particularly on the vaccines, he's gotten the politics all wrong. >> what happens? the election is november 3rd. what happens if november 1st he stages a news conference like he did with convalescent plasma and says, okay, it's here. here's the vaccine. does that immediately shift votes, i'm just not sure. we're 58 days away at this point. when would you have to make that announcement for it to have the impact you wanted it to? >> i think given the poll that erica cited that even if he announced it, it wouldn't shift a lot of votes. remember, by

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peter hotez and ashley parker, thank you both so much for starting us off today. when we come back, it's looking like half of america's children will spend a large chunk of this fall learning bloremotely. new york city despite a delay in reopening is still planning to offer in-person schooling. will the nation's largest school district be a leader or guinea pig on what not to do. >>> and only the best people, remember that? the man who said dr. fauci was wrong about just everything. well, we're learning today that peter navarro is facing an internal investigation for his treatment of colleagues, infuriating those around and two of his coronavirus-related actions are under scrutiny. >>> plus, former vice president biden responding to the current vice president reportedly being on standby during donald trump's mystery walter reed visit. we'll bring you all of those stories, coming up. we'll bring you all of those stories, coming up i've always been fascinated by about what's next. and still going for my best. even though i live with a higher risk of stroke due to af

peter hotez. thanks as usual for joining us. let's talk about this drug maker astrazeneca.ord university now confirming there's been what they call a second pause in their vaccine trial. dr. fauci says that while this pause is unfortunate, it shows actually that the system is working. is that how we should view this setback? >> yes. i think so. this is a large 30,000-person trial. the point is it can capture rare events. what we've seen now with the oxford astrazeneca vaccine is that one individual woman experienced a condition known as transverse myolitis inflammation of the spinal cord. it happens after an infection. it can happen in association with multiple sclerosis. we don't know a lot about the true cause of it but it seems to trigger an auto immune response and the question is whether that is related to the vaccine. there was actually a second episode of multiple sclerosis according to a report with the vaccine. so we're still learning more about this. we have to remember that when you see rare events in 30,000 people think of it this way. think of it like a city of

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hotez, thanks for joining us.you heard last night the president contradicted the experts on the timeline for the coronavirus vaccine. he is actually accusing politics of slowing the vaccine process down. what is a realistic timeline for a vaccine to be developed and who should the american people be listening to on this critically important subject? >> well, the irony, of course, is yes there is politics and the president is the one who is introducing the politics. look, we've got a very robust, scientific program, operation warp speed has a very orchestrated system of clinical trials. they're being done at the highest level of scientific rigor and integrity. 30,000 people trials. we were involved through our nih vaccine active working group in helping with organizing those trials and looking for possible safety events. so everything is all set to release safe and effective vaccines to the public but you have to give it the time. you have to let -- giving two doses of each of those vaccines to 30,000 people or at

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peter hotez, thank you.s as always for your analysis. >>> there's a new poll in iowa that puts president trump and the democratic nominee joe biden neck and neck. the experts behind this particular poll say there's a division point here that they've never seen before. we're going to drill in on that. there's a group of voters that politicians always hope for, but they don't always turn out on election day. we're talking about young people. i'm going to talk to a texas high school student about his mission to get his classmates involved. it's all happening on national voter registration day. >>> president obama releasing a new video saying that your vote has never mattered more than it does now. >> what's at stake in this election is much bigger than joe or the man he's running to replace. what's at stake is whether or not our democracy endures. the folks in power are hoping you will stay home. they're hoping you get cynical. they're trying to convince you that your vote doesn't matter. it's how they win. don

peter hotez, the director at texas hospital.s parents, we all want our kids to back to school when it's safe. if the school has masks, social distancing, spaced out classrooms enough to guarantee that there's some distancing, is that enough to guarantee that it will be relatively safe? >> you know, jake, in my opinion, it all depends on the let me of virus transmission in the community. so, for instance, over the summer, and here in texas, i was meeting regularly with teachers, school boards, staff, administrators, and, you know, what i said to them was -- and like they're doing in new york, the teachers were trying to follow cdc guidelines, doing incredibly creative innovative things with plexiglas and social distancing. what i said to them is, look, if you were doing this in a part of the country such as a northern new england where transmission is way down, i think there's a good chance you'll get through the semester without a lot of transmission. and without teachers and staff getting sick. but if you're trying to do this i

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hotez. >> good to see you this morning. what we heard from natasha about how cases do seem in some states to be increasing again, we've heard from the very beginning or from early on at least that having a vaccine is going to be key here. we heard the president this week say that everyone will be able to get a vaccine for kpoecovid april of 2021. is that realistic? >> thanks, christi. it's hard to really say that we'll have the whole u.s. population vaccinated by april. the way it works, we have three vaccines now in clinical trials. phase 3 clinical trials. these are pivotal trials leading to licensure. we'll know by the end of the year whether one of those three vaccines, the two moderna and pfizer and the oxford vaccine, although that's on pause. we won't know whether it works and is safe. we don't know that yet. that's an important point to make. then, if it's determined that one or more of them work, then we can start releasing them to the public because they're already being manufactured. so by the early part of next

hotez, as usual, thank you so much for joining us.e are always appreciative of everything you have to say. thanks once again. >> thank you so much, wolf. >>> up next, trump-appointed officials interfering with critical cdc reports so they wouldn't necessarily undermine what the president is saying his political messaging. i'll talk with that with jay johnson. he's standing by live. >>> plus, more breaking news. we're going to get live updates on the deadly and truly historic wildfires ravaging the western united states, and the hurricane taking direct aim at the u.s. gulf coast, the storm has just strengthened to a category 2. they say carnivorous devourus inhabits these waters. if he's here, this devour white cheddar mac and cheese with bacon will lure him out. ahhhhhhh eat like an animal. devour. and now your co-pilot.. still a father. but now a friend. still an electric car. just more electrifying. still a night out. but everything fits in. still hard work. just a little easier. still a legend. just more legendary. chevrolet. makin

hotez is. he's one of the leading voices on disease outbreaks and pandemics for a good quarter century, probably longer. he is one of the leading voices. so, i appreciate that the president doesn't agree with the scientists but there isn't much daylight among the scientists. there is broad consensus we are entering a difficult time period. we should not be entering with 40,000 plus cases a day. it would be a lot better if we had less suffering. there would rays of hope with vaccines. maybe it will improve tessing. but hope is not a strategy. it would be helpful to get out of the white house a strategy they are willing to implement to save american lives. >> dr. reiner, dr. jha brings up the vaccine. they keep saying one is coming soon, trump continues to say that. and a lot of people i feel like have accepted that, that it is what it is until there's a vaccine. "the washington post" is reporting the fda is ghoing to have tough new standards that would make it harder for any vaccine to be cleare

peter hotez, it's always wonderful to have your insight. thank you very much for that. tonight.r this evening. s. >>> good evening, chris. much appreciated. happy to have you here. >>> the fox news channel has just released its latest swing state head-to-head polls for the presidential election. per these new fox news polls that just came out, in pennsylvania former vice president joe biden is leading president trump by seven points. in nevada, former vice president joe biden leading trump by double digits, by 11 points. and in ohio, this latest fox news polling shows joe biden leading trump by five. that ohio result is interesting. there's been this sort of emerging political common wisdom this yr

vaccine expert peter hotez says drug compan transparency is critical is the public confidence in the entire vaccine movement right now on the line? >> not only is the public confidence on the line, but the public confidence in the entire nation's vaccine program is on the line. >> reporter: but tens of thousands have signed up as drug trial volunteers in london, robin powell is still planning to join the astrazeneca trial after the unexplained safety pause. >> i think the risk to me is relatively small and the benefit to the state of man is very great. >> reporter: it is that simple. it is about helping your fellow man. >> exactly so, yes. >> reporter: tonight the most optimistic time line suggests some americans, very few, could start receiving covid vaccines late this year but for most americans it will extend well into next summer and even next fall lester >> all right tom costello, thanks. >>> attorney general william barr is facing some criticism after a comment tonight comparing covid lockdowns by states to slavery. and in the same speech, barr attacke prosecutors in his own de

peter hotez, the dean of tropical medicine at baylor's college of medicine.t's probably an inevitable conversation that we're going to have the cdc says one thing the president says another let's start this way as far as you understand, in the best case scenario, and one of these vaccines that's currently in a -- what are we in the third stage of a clinical strtrial. if we find one that's 70% effective, then what where do we go from here, and what's the realistic timeline? >> chuck, let's remember there are going to be about half a dozen vaccines looked at by "operation warp speed" which is the u.s. program the first tranche of vaccines, three are in phase three trials. one of them, the astrazeneca vaccine is on a pause right now, which we hope will come off pause soon, but the two that we're hoping to have some important data by the end of the year, the moderna mrna and the pfizer mrna possibly will know by the end of the year whether there's a difference between the group that get the vaccine, the group that didn't in terms of efkaerks showing that it works

peter hotez, the founding dean of the national school of tropical medicine. dr.otez, thank you very much. 7 million cases. that's 20% of all of the cases in the entire world. we don't have that sort of population of the entire world. it seems like we are just very bad at controlling the spread because there's a good portion of the public that doesn't take it seriously, doesn't believe masks are necessary or social distancing are necessary, and they are backed up by the president who is holding these rallies where those things are not mandated. >> yeah, you're absolutely right, katy. not only did we hit 7 million cases this week, but of course, we hit that other grim milestone of 200,000 deaths. so the united states continues to be at the epicenter of this awful, awful pandemic. and now, we have the other terrible news that the numbers seem to be going back up again. so we're really hitting our third peak of infection. we had that big peak in march and april. then we had the second surge over the summer across the southern states. now the numbers were down to 30,0

hotez in that last piece is completely right.r issue here is the lack of transparency that the company disclose this at an investor conference. we haven't been given the details of exactly what happened. you can protect patient confidentiality and still share information. it's really important the company do so. >> is it inevitable that this will hurt the level of trust in the astrazeneca vaccine? or does the company, the pharmaceutical company still have time to be transparent and help this issue? >> so i think they have plenty of time to help this issue. they could really turn around now and be much more transparent and open, which will help build confidence in the vaccine. it's certainly not too late, but we got to get going on this. >> dr. fauci told cnn yesterday it's just a matter of time before astrazeneca resumes its vaccine trial given what we know now, do you agree? >> i do. again, part of it is i'm sure the regulators are looking very carefully at all the data. and i expect that they are going to do what dr. fauci has

announcement of the new funding initiatives the uk will be contributing towards was professor peter hotezg to commit £500 million to the covax facility, if i made, let me say what that really means. i'm a vaccine developer, we have a low cost covid—19 global health vaccine, we hope to produce a billion doses. but what's happening is we're also in conversations with leaders of the latin american countries, and they are telling us right now that because covax has been so terribly underfunded, that only 20% of the populations of these countries can be guaranteed access to vaccines, leaving 80% without any hope of being protected against covid—19. that is humanitarian tragedy with how the british prime minister hopes to correct. the only outcome that i'd love to see now that hasn't been doneis i'd love to see now that hasn't been done is for boris johnson leverage this important step, and by leveraging i mean now pick up the telephone and call our us president, called president trump and say we need you to match uk commitment, particularly a two to one match, because of you us government attr

peter hotez, you're involved in a vaccine trial at your university, baylor college of medicine. can you explain this to us and do you know? because i know you're involved in the race to the vaccine. but can the white house override the fda and short circuit the approval process? >> the answer is i'm not sure. i'm told yes. hhs, department of health and human services has the ability to override the fda. i think it would be a catastrophic disaster, if they did that. we worked very hard to put in place all of the pieces of operation warp speed. it's a very good program. i was on the nih active vaccine working group that helped put pieces of this foorgt. together. it is a very robust program. they're designed to maximize the likelihood we'll have a vaccine effective and safe. the integrity of the trials is high. we've had a lot of discussions. i'm unhappy with communications around the program, but the scientific integrity is in tact. that's a fact. so, when you start hearing the president potentially say he's going to undermine it or have secretary azar override the fda, that scar

peter hotez and basil smikle.r, this must be frustrating for people on the side that want a vaccine that's good and tested. donald trump seems to be obstructing every step of that process. >> you're right, nicolle. operation warp speed is a good program. i've had a lot of personal involvement in it through our nih vaccine working group called active which is supposed to provide advice for operation warp speed. scientists have been working around the clock to make this the best possible program. it's a robust program. the way the clinical trials are being conducted is at the highest possible scientific level with the highest level of integrity. it's very frustrating when some people try to politicize it and insert themselves in ways that make it sound like it has been corrupted. it's not. it's a strong program as long as the scientists can hold the line and let us do our work so we can actually confirm whether or not any of these vaccines work and are safe. as long as we can do that, we can assure the american peop

peter hotez, a professor and dean of tropical medicine at baylor college of medicine joins us. doctor, good to see you. haven't seen you in a while. >> good to see you, don. >> florida's test positivity rate is over double the recommended 5% for reopening. the state is averaging more than 2,000 cases and about 100 deaths, every single day. does this decision make any sense to you? >> it -- it does not make any sense to me, don. you know, it's not -- things are not as bad as they were over the summer, when you had over 10,000 new cases a day. but 2,500 new cases a day is still pretty high. remember, that's an underestimate. that's just the ones that test positive. and the ratio could be as high as five to ten times more. so we could be talking about 10, 25,000 new cases a day in florida, which is still way beyond anything that was back in may. so there's still a pretty screaming high level of transmission going on in florida. and just by letting everything rip, you know what's going to happen. it's going to start going back up, again. >> goodness. so, governor desantis is also s

peter hotez.the co-director for the vaccine development center at texas children's hospital and dean of tropical medicine at baylor's college of medicine. doctor, good to see you. this is an effort to boost transparency and improve public trust, which has eroded. what do you make of it? >> i think it's a good move because you certainly want a vaccine to protect against severe disease. you don't want a vaccine that just protects against mild or asymptomatic infection. so i think this is a welcome addition. but i think it also goes to show that we need a better system of communication about "operation warp speed" and the vaccine program. the way it's rolling out is not working very well. we're leaving it to the ceos of the companies, and in many cases they've fumbled the message. and we still don't have that steady stream of communication coming out of leadership in washington. and i really think we need that, almost like what andrew cuomo has done, maybe not on a daily basis but a weekly basis. i'm

peter hotez.s your reaction to the pictures we're seeing in henderson, nevada, just outside of las vegas. they are still waiting outside this rattlly it's not supposed fwin for another couple hours or so. but they are packed inside. most of the people not wearing masks. when you see what's going on over there, what do you think? >> thank you for having me on. on one hand, i have sympathy for the people attending who have been subject to so much misinformation that they believe what they are doing is reasonably safe. but we know the president knows better. we know the president knows that he's deeply dangerous and irresponsible. he and his team are continuing to do this, really gothers me. it is irresponsible. and he should not be doing this at this moment. >> i remember in june when there was a huge rally in tulsa, oklahoma. that's the last the president had. a bunch of people came down with coronavirus including herself main cain, the presidential candidate a week later and a month later he sadly

vaccine expert peter hotez says drug company transparency is critical. >> is the public confidence inthe line? >> not only is the public confidence of the vaccines used in operation warp speed on the line, the public confidence in the entire nation's vaccine program is on the line. >> reporter: but tens of thousands have signed up as drug trial volunteers in london, robin powell is still planning to join the astrazeneca trial even after the unexplained safety pause >> i think the risk to me is relatively small, and the benefit to the estate of man is very great. >> it's that simple? it's about helping your fellow man? >> exactly so, yes. >> reporter: tonight the most optimistic timeline suggests some americans, very few, could start receiving covid vaccines late this year but for most americans, it will extend well into next summer and even next fall >> and our thanks to tom costello for that. >>> coming up, what will they think of next during this pandemic >>> last thing before we go tonight, starting with a quick word about this segment. we realize it's the last thing you hear from

peter hotez is here.cine scientist and the dean of tropical medicine at baylor college of medicine. doctor, thank you so much. this is very disturbing. i want to start with this breaking news, first reported by "the times." they write, and i quote here, white house officials tried to circumvent the cdc in a search for alternate data, showing that the pandemic was weakening and posed little danger to children. so, cnn has now confirmed that. is the administration trying to -- to skew the science for political reasons, here? >> unfortunately, yes. i mean, this is -- this is actually one component of a pretty impressive and, in a nefarious way, a disinformation campaign. anti-science, disinformation campaign, put out by the white house. i mean, look. i was -- you know, we had data coming out of south korea that was published over the summer. i think it was june or july. showing that add leolescents transmit this virus just as well as adults do. and even the little kids can transmit virus, pretty well. and i

peter hotez, it's always wonderful to have your insight. thank you very much for that. tonight. that is "all in" for this evening. s. >>> good evening, chris. much appreciated. happy to have you here. >>> the fox news channel has just released its latest swing state head-to-head polls for the presidential election. per these new fox news polls that just came out, in pennsylvania former vice president joe biden is leading president trump by seven points. in nevada, former vice president joe biden leading trump by double digits, by 11 points. and in ohio, this latest fox news polling shows joe biden leading trump by five. that ohio result is interesting. there's been this sort of emerging political common wisdom this year that ohio isn't even supposed to be within reach for a democratic candidate anymore, that ohio is no longer a swing state. but this is the third ohio poll in a row all from this month that all have had joe biden beating donald trump in ohio. this fox poll, the one out today showing biden leading trump in ohio by five, is the largest margin, but there have been th

peter hotez at baylor college of medicine in houston.us on hospitalization and healthcare capacity and fatalities and some people that got this and it is not bad. but, there are a chunk of people who gets real sick. what are we learning of the long-term effects of this illness for those who do survive. >> thanks a lot, chris f, for having me. i want to thank again for the last segment and giving a space to the virus is so important. we are seeing the white house dehumanizing it and taking away the humanity component of this virus which is just so devastati devastating. we know there are 200,000 americans who perished in this epidemic. that's a tip of the iceberg. this virus when we first saw it in wuhan china, we thought it was a respiratory virus and not realizing this virus attacks the vascular and the heart and the brain. we are seeing significant long-term disability because of this. lung injury and people remaining short ne shortness of breath and horrible fatigue and then we are learning of long-term complications, sometimes people

peter hotez, dean for the national school of tropical medicine at baylor's college of medicine.you for joini us. i want to talk sort of big picture here about what you're seeing because we put these statistics out here all the time. x number of new cases today. x number of total cases. the big picture here when you look at this country, are you seeing generally places that haven't had it before starting to get a flare up, starting to get cases or are you seeing places that have had it start to get second waves? what are we looking at here? something working its way through slowly the first time or is it now hitting places multiple times? >> so it's actually a very good question and i think what we're seeing is a little bit of both. we had this big massive resurgeance across the southern states in july and august and now it's starting to come down a little bit. but not by much. i mean, we went from 66,000 new cases a day at our peak in the summer down to now around the 30,000s. but as you point out, now it's going up to 40,000 again. so what we're all dreading is the possibility

peter hotez, who we had on earlier, called the president's rally, anti-science, deliberately, probably, anti-science, trying to create this narrative that you just brought up. and that's probably an interesting way to look at it. he's trying to really warp discussion now. and we see another example of that in part of this new sound that we heard from bob woodward's interview on "60 minutes" last night, where you hear scott pelley's voice here first, but you also hear the president talk about what could have been done differently. listen. >> by the time of their final interviews in august, mr. trump had become the leader of the one nation suffering the most from the virus. the president came to this conclusion. >> nothing more could have been done. nothing more could have been done. >> "nothing more could have been done." we spent a lot of time looking backwards at what could have been done in february, march, and april, dr. reiner, but the idea of the president saying that in august that nothing more could have been done gives you a sense of his mind-set as we head into the fall. >> ri

. >> that was peter hotez with baylor university working on a vaccine for low to middle income countriesthe world. he warns if scientists communicate effectively to the american people or if not millions won't take the vaccine. history may repeat itself. in 1976 also during an election year then president gerald ford asked all americans to get the swine flu vaccine. the outbreak began but there were multiple problems. people got sick and in some cases paralyzed because of the vaccine. scientists say that process was rushed. it was canned. the warp speed officials need to get in front of the camera. they held a conference call today. he said the messaging is crucial so all americans can feel safe about a vaccine when it is available. sandra. >> sandra: we'll stand by for more news on that. david, thank you. >> trace: democrat is calling for the resignation of health and human services secretary alex azar. >> it has become clear that the leadership of the department of health and human services has allowed the most important federal agency right now to become subservient to the president's