emily: of course, microsoft went on to buy hotmail. dfj made millions of dollars. want to talk about how you became a guy, who can make these kinds of predictions and big bets. tell me about where you come from. what kind of kid were you? steve: i don't know if i ever grew up. that is the first thing that comes to mind. i was born in arizona, to estonian immigrants, who came here during the early days of the semiconductor industry. i guess i was inspired by my dad growing up. i started programming when the apple ii computer first came out. i think there is something intoxicating about the ability to program a machine, to code it to do things, and have immediate feedback, unlike other experiments that take time to learn. the learning cycle is so rapid when you program. emily: you graduated from stanford first in your class, you got a masters in electrical engineering, an mba at stanford. steve: i love to learn, and, that is what i love about being a venture capitalist, i am always learning. at school, i did not want to leave. i enrolled right from my undergraduate t