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. >> let's focus in on the hunt with cnn law enforcement analyst and former nypd detective larry houck. we've got lieutenant colonel james reese. let's start with you. if matt was reportedly sick, is it safe to assume that sweat is, as well? >> it's a good possibility and something the law enforcement folks are looking at. the bottom line, if he is sick it slows him down. it really affects the psychological aspect of being on the run. right now with the rain coming down, they've been on this for two weeks, if he is physically sick his brain is starting to overcome his body. and that intellectual part is starting to tell him stop, slow down. he starts to make those mistakes, which is great for law enforcement. as harry will probably tell you here, if he is sick it's good for law enforcement. this could come to a conclusion very quickly, especially with this rain is this is going on. >> harry, i'm surprised by this detail reported by the buffalo news citing an unnamed source, the detail about the drunkenness. are you surprised by that? >> no, not really. probably their first chance in a

let's talk about this with an nypd detective, harry houck and jonathan gilliam. still with me is rick burt, who filmed this from atop his apartment building right across the street there from dallas headquarters. harry, let me begin with you. just how do you think the police handled the situation? it's miraculous that no one was even shot at all and they pursued him on this chase while also having to keep a very close eye afterwards on that rigged van. >> right. i think the dallas police department acted admirably. when they first started taking fire from this van, the police officers are trained to take cover immediately so that saved the lives of the officers when they tried to -- in that one car as you can see many bullets, as you are seeing that here right now. and you heard all the gunfire going on. not only was he probably shooting but the police officers were also firing back. then once the chase ensued you know and the vehicle was -- had stopped, this is a call for why we need the military equipment that we are getting from the government that 50 caliber

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and joining me is mark penny and van jones and harry houck.ice given you any response that they haven't responded to the reported missing drugs and the videos. >> well we asked them last friday if they've seen the videos and they said no. and the drug enforcement said there are a certain amount of pharmacy they haven't went to and they were backed up and they would get to. and they've increased the number to 27 as they did today. and the pharmacy owners were concerned because of the violence and they know other drugs are missing and people are finding drugs on the streets with their names on the bags. >> and do you believe or -- how much of this rise in crime do you think is actually fueled by the drugs? can run really make a linkage? >> well that would be speculation on my part. we're going by what the police commissioner said last week and the gangs had a plan to do this and had a calculated move and the homicide is the highest the city has since seen the early '70s and so the amount of drugs on the street and it does make sense. >> harry, t

so does law enforcement analyst is retired nypd detective harry houck.iate you being with us. you met with darren wint for two hours over the weekend. he is well spoken, he would never harm a child and definitely didn't do this. what makes you so sure of that? i mean, that does sound like the thing every neighbor who's ever interviewed says about somebody who surprisingly commits a crime. >> this is a family of nine children, five girls and four boys. they took care of each other growing up. they come from another country, british guyana. small country of 750,000. darren has a daughter, he's not the type of person who would harm a child because he's taken care of children all his life. >> i mean, you know, he's innocent until proven guilty, and maybe he didn't do this. there's plenty of people who have sons or daughters and have committed murders. >> not many families of nine children who are taking care of each other. >> are you kidding? >> you're saying if you have a big family you're less likely to commit murder? >> this is your defense? >> when you h

. >> harry houck, thanks so much for your point of view. appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> investigators are trying to figure out the motive behind that violent assault on dallas police. sara sidner spoke to the suspect's father. sara. >> reporter: yeah the father very very emotional. but he talked a lot about his son and why he thinks he went on this shooting spree. we'll have that coming up just after the break. a go ost, is a good host ♪ no matter where he's hosting. ♪ stella artois host beautifully it's more than a network. it's how you stay connected. with centurylink as your trusted technology partner you get an industry leading broadband network and cloud and hosting services. centurylink. your link to what's next. if you struggle with type 2 diabetes you're certainly not alone. fortunately, many have found a different kind of medicine that lowers blood sugar. imagine what it would be like to love your numbers. discover once-daily invokana®. it's the #1 prescribed in the newest class of medicines that work with the kidneys to lower a1

let's talk about it with former nypd detective harry houck, lamont mark hill is with us and also joiningattorney philip holloway. gentlemen, thank you for being here. can you help us understand this ohio law that allows a judge to say -- to look at evidence and say yes, there is probable cause to charge here? one of the officers he is saying there is probable cause to charge them with negligent homicide reckless homicide. why can a judge say that but it actually has no impact unless the prosecutor convenes this grand jury? >> because there's a conflict in the law in ohio. a lot of states georgia included have these citizen warrants where a civilian can go to a judge and ask for the judge to issue an arrest warrant. however, in ohio the judge's determination is not binding upon the d.a. and no warrant can be issued unless the d.a. seeks one. this case is going to grand jury and the judge who ruled that yesterday did not have the benefit of this -- these documents that were released today that give a lot of very significant information that in my opinion, would support the shooting as bein

hair houck, if you could weigh in on what the resident said, he's been in sort of a lockdown.re able to go to work and school but one daughter -- he has three daughters, 10, 13 and 16. he does a gun sweep of his house before his wife and children come into the home and he said there was an officer outside of his home that had been at least on a 24-hour hunt. >> these guys only have two options now. either surrender or commit a crime now. so you've got every residence where the perpetrators can make their way to a home and commit a crime to be able to get away. you have state police at every home location hoping they will try to make their way to a home and break this in and the police will be able to catch them. he's a very smart man to do that every day. a lot these people have weapons up there, too. if they get into a house where there's nobody home or if there's somebody home and they hold them hostage, they will probably get hold after weapon. and another thing, i don't know if matt is a real marine or not, he has a marine tattoo, if he was in the marine corps like me, the

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