hougen is not the only one making these arguments.ents pointing to facebook knowing about their own dangers, you hear facebook respond. you heard clegg say, we're working on hate speech, we've made great progress. that was a statement made about a year ago. now there are statements that hougen put on the table and he will likely follow up on those. he said they're working on features to urge you to take a break if you use instagram too much. maybe in six months that feature will exist, but what about all the damage in the meantime? >> what about all the damage in the meantime, and why does it take so much public blowback to make those common sense changes? the question now is, what is congress going to do? you have democratic senator amy klobuchar also speaking to our dana bash this morning on "state of the union." she says she appreciates clegg's w willingness to talk about things but remains skeptical. >> the time for action is now. basically the social media has been saying, and the other tech platforms, trust us, we got this. look

let's start with francis hougen's testimony to congress this week. she said instagram harms children. she detailed a lot of troubling findings from internal reports, including that almost one in five u.s. teenagers who use instagram says instagram makes them feel very or somewhat worse about themselves. is that acceptable to you? >> no, i don't think it should be acceptable to anyone if a teenager is in distress and feels more so when they use any form of communication. but, of course, what francis hougen was talking about, what that internal discussion paper was referring to is something i think everybody has known for a long time. external researchers have confirmed this for some time, which is for the overwhelming majority of teenagers actually using instagram is a positive experience even when they're suffering from sleeplessness, anxiety, depression and so on, it actually makes them feel better. i think any parent watching this would intuitively understand if a teenager isn't feeling good about themselves, when they compare themselves to others,

hougen was on "60 minutes." >> facebook makes more money when you consume more content.y engaging with thing that ellis it emotional reaction. the more they interact and consume the leak documents show how instagram which is owned by facebook is harmful to teen girls the app make 13% of girls' feelings about suicide worse. 17% say it makes eating disorders worst. >> facebook's own research says as these young women begin to consume these eating disorder content, they get more and more depress. it actually makes them use the app more. and so they end up in this feed back psych where will they hate their bodyies more and more. >> he says comparing yourself to others is a basic human tendency that can never be eliminated. >> the psychological anthropological feeling is not going change what we can change are our products. we're going to give parents and teens new optional controls so they can supervise what their teams are doing. we're going introduce more tools that will nudge teens on dwelling on particular kinds of content over and over again facebook responded in a writ

hougen also gave the s.e.c. documents to work with nbc's jacob ward explains that >> the securities and exchange commission should investigate your intentions and claims, ms. hougen, so should the federal trade commission. >> reporter: greg pressure to act in the face of the whistle-blower's blistering testimony. hougen, legally considered an s.e.c. whistle-blower because she filed accusations of fraud with the commission, allege is facebook misled the public, investors, and congress about the harm from its products. >> my disclosure has proved that when facebook is directly asked questions as important as, how do you impact the health and safety of our children they choose to mislead and misdirect. >> reporter: if the commission investigates and levies fines, haugen would be eligible to collect anywhere from 10% to 30% what was facebook is fined lawyers say she's also afforded protections from potential legal claims, though facebook hasn't indicated any plans to file lawsuits the chair of the s.e.c., gary gensl

>>> new this afternoon, more explosive testimony from whistleblower and facebook employee francis hougenfore the parliament. >> i came forward now because now is a critical time to act. when we see something like an oil spill, that oil spill doesn't make it harder to regulate oil companies. but right now facebook authorities are making it harder to regulate facebook. >> the testimony comes on a day of a big drop, what are called the facebook papers. main takeaways? huge divisions inside facebook, internal complaints that the company gloriies profits over results. she compares facebook, as you just heard in the parliament, to an oil spill. she wants, as she said, the is the sec, securities exchange commission, to regulate facebook. do you think they might start cleaning things up? >> you know, speech is not oil, right? i do think facebook enjoys really broad protections under the first amendment about the ways in which it moves speech around and decisions which make the best speech, which really is what's crucial here. i think there is an enormous amount of interest in congress and europe

francis hougen just confirmed she had permission to brief the oversight board.l. she said, facebook has lied repeatedly and i'm looking forward to sharing the truth with them. with me now is mike isaac. welcome to the show. >> thank you for having me. >> we heard a lot from francis hougen last week when she testified before congress. it's important to note she could be before the oversight board. what could she tell them we haven't already heard in public? >> the oversight board is interestingly more toothsome, i guess, than we thought considering their connections to facebook. i think francis coming in and perhaps walking the board through some of the documents that she shared with congress, with the "wall street journal" so far, giving them a little more granular detail other than what has only been shown so far in the "wall street journal" stories out there. she has repeatedly said there is a lot of information that the public has not seen yet. >> do you think mark zuckerberg and cheryl sandberg, if you're in their shoes, are you concerned about this meeting

francis hougen, whistleblower at facebook, released thousands of pages of documents. she testified before congress that facebook's products, quote, harm children, stoke division and weaken our democracy. she went on to blame the country for refusing to take steps to help users. >> the company's leadership knows how to make facebook and instagram safer but won't make the changes necessary because they have put their astronomical profits before people. congressional action is needed. they won't solve this crisis without your help. >> joining me now is facebook's top spokesman, vice president of global affairs, nick clegg. mr. clegg, thanks so much for joining me. >> let's start with whistle-blower frances haugen's testimony to congress this week. she said instagram harms children. she detailed a lot of troubling findings from internal reports, including that almost one in five u.s. teenagers who use instagram say instagram makes them feel very or somewhat worse about themselves. is that acceptable to you? >> no, i don't think it should be acceptable to anyone if a teena

that document leak by facebook was france s hougen. >> these documents are vindication that what we'vee all along and that facebook knows it and could take action on it and decides not to. >> for many years people have been talking about the facebook effect, what facebook is doing to culture, to society, to politics. but we didn't really know from data from facebook whether these theories were true. what frances has given us is an extraordinary archive of material that helps us see exactly what's going on and what they know is going on. and it is the biggest and most important contribution to understanding this incredibly important problem we've ever had. >> reporter: the leaked documents many just becoming public were given to a consortium of news organizations including cnn form the basis of a complaint to the sec where hougan alleges the company misled investors and the public about its role of perpetuating misinformation and violent extremism related to the 2020 election and january 6th insurrection. facebook executives like nick clage will say it's unfair to blame facebook for the

by the way, hougen is scheduled to testify before congress tomorrow.egment writing in part this. quote, every day our teams have tried to balance protecting the right of billions of people to express themselves openly with the need to keep our platform a safe and positive place. we continue to make significant improvements to tackle the spread of misinformation and harmful content. to suggest we encourage bad content and do nothing is just not true. >> it actually is true. that statement is a lie. everybody knows that statement is a lie. they have algorithms, david, that encourage hate speech. they have algorithms that encourage lies about the virus. they have algorithms that encourage people to not get vaccines and to choke to death with a ventilator shoved down their throat. that's on facebook time and time again. and why am i so upset about this? because i have friends. i have relatives. i have people who call me every day with another horrific story. mika this weekend was visiting her daughter. somebody came up to her. knew she was on this show. sa