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[laughter] >> and when of you as connectors hought as she did, do i tell him? [laughter] >> and only took a moment and said, nah! [laughter] >> we just kept pushing and getting ready and really what we ended up doing is convincing the people of kentucky saying, i don't like the president but i have to find out what that is about. we separated that as much as we could and they did. they ended up deciding i'm going to end up deciding for myself. when they went on there and found out and it wasn't the web site as much, but it was you. we really pushed personal connectors all over the state because, look, most of these people, the reason our web site worked pretty well, there is no bells or whistles, we looked who we were going to be dealing with. a lot of those folks didn't know much about computers. so you had to make it simple. and we knew these are folks that never had insurance in their lives most of them. and you start talking about co-pays and all of these kinds of things, i have had insurance all of my life and i don't understand all of that stuff. i knew w

and that it seems to me that it would be such a vast expansion of what congress must could have hought it was doing in 1993, when it enacted rfra, to say that for-profit corporations can make claims for religious exemptions to any laws of general application that they want to challenge. i do you know, mr. clement says, well, you don't have to worry about anything other than small, tightly knit corporations like the one at issue here. i take the point of the appeal of a situation like this one. but the way in which he suggests that you will be able to distinguish this case from a case in which a large corporation comes in or a public ompany comes in, is that you will have more grounds to question the sincerity of the claim. but that raises exactly the kinds of entanglement concerns that this court has always said you should try to avoid. >> well, that's his argument for distinguishing it. but there are others, including the fact that it is more you avoid all of the problems with what to do if it's a, you know, there's a 51% ownership of the shareholders, if you simply say that it's in t